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There are 22 comments on the Fox6 story from Oct 26, 2009, titled Buell motorcycles: Buell enthusiasts from across the country sa.... In it, Fox6 reports that:

They came from as far away as Alaska to say goodbye to Buell Motorcycles, a Harley-Davidson brand.

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Steve Cooksey

Sacramento, CA

#1 Jan 5, 2010
As an proud owner of my 2003 Firebolt XB-9R, I am saddened by the news. How many cycle owners can say they have met the designer and engineer of their bike? I can. He really made himself available to everyone. He walked with me to personally autograph my Buell. Is there a Mr. Honda or Ms. Yamaha that can do that? This has been a wonderful bike to own. Having owned over twelve different cycles, I love this one the best and have had zero problems with it. I will remain hopeful he (Eric and Buell brand) will ressurrect in a even more innovative form of motorcycle, in the not so distant future.
bagger dude

Tarentum, PA

#2 Jan 24, 2010
go to the reunion this year...last one...gonna be sweet
09 FLHX

Sylvester, GA

#3 Jan 25, 2010
Good riddance. Buells are lousy bikes.
bagger dude

Benton City, WA

#4 Jan 26, 2010
wow.....that's kinda ignorant. Wonder what experience has given you that attitude? Have you owned one, had to fix one, tried to ride one unsuccessfully? Damn...
bagger dude

Benton City, WA

#5 Jan 26, 2010
I've owned a couple Buells. Crashed one pretty good down in N. Carolina on some spilled anti-freeze in a curve, broke my legs so now it's forward controls or nothing. I remember laying in the road as my BMW buddy pulled up after watching it happen. I lifted my visor and said "it's still better than working, bro.." Yeah, Buell had it's problems. You still cannot recreate or duplicate the riding experience you get on a fat-tired, cammed-up, loud-assed AMERICAN sportbike. The early 'tubers had lotsa problems that the factory was ready to fix. The problems came from shitty dealers that were untrained or just too stubborn to handle the warranty issues. I was treated like shit a number of times by a number of dealers who hated the brand because their techs were unwilling to be trained on them and usually screwed up more than they attempted to repair. The bigger issue was the lack of places to hang chrome and tacky accessories on a Buell....another money loser for dealerships. They weren't marketed hard enough to sportbike enthusiasts. Gixxer, cbr guys, zx guys were not recruited hard enough to get them to jump brands. Most of these guys are interested in flat-out speed anyway and cant go around a curve hard if their life depended on it...I see them every day. Hit the freeway, haul ass thru the gears, and go 5mph under the posted offramp speed. Buells are for the serious rider who lives in the chicken strips section of his tires. God bless Erik and his creations....
PrincipalDiesel

Winslow, AZ

#6 Jan 26, 2010
I just traded my Sportster for a Buell Ulysses. I love the balance and the power. I needed something that I cound ride in the Arizona high country where I live. The Uly fits the ticket for dirt roads and highways. I have had no problems. I believe the Harley made a marketing boo boo. The dealers did not sell the bikes to the right people. Every 20/30 something sport rider I know has respect for Buell. HD missed the boat on who to sell these bikes to. Someday, perhaps, HD will bring Buell back.

“Can take a hit, and give one!”

Since: Feb 09

Colorado, New Mexico, Hawaii

#7 Jan 27, 2010
Steve Cooksey wrote:
As an proud owner of my 2003 Firebolt XB-9R, I am saddened by the news. How many cycle owners can say they have met the designer and engineer of their bike? I can. He really made himself available to everyone. He walked with me to personally autograph my Buell. Is there a Mr. Honda or Ms. Yamaha that can do that? This has been a wonderful bike to own. Having owned over twelve different cycles, I love this one the best and have had zero problems with it. I will remain hopeful he (Eric and Buell brand) will ressurrect in a even more innovative form of motorcycle, in the not so distant future.
i learned to ride on Buells and HD's. After they finally get it right with a non S&S powerplant, showing promise at last...the company folds its tent. too damn bad!
bagger dude

Montpelier, OH

#8 Jan 28, 2010
dracul wrote:
<quoted text>i learned to ride on Buells and HD's. After they finally get it right with a non S&S powerplant, showing promise at last...the company folds its tent. too damn bad!
You learned to ride on HD's and Buells? So.....you've been riding what, 10-12 years? Are you the same Dracul on the other thread bashing the hell out of Harley and anyone stupid enough to own one? So did you ever OWN one or just bum rides off other people until you could afford a Jap bike? Ease up a little fire rider.... we are all people with a common passion. Did you call all the people who taught you to ride "gap-toothed filthy scumbags" or did you save that until the training wheels came off? No hatred, just curious.

“Can take a hit, and give one!”

Since: Feb 09

Colorado, New Mexico, Hawaii

#9 Jan 29, 2010
bagger dude wrote:
<quoted text>You learned to ride on HD's and Buells? So.....you've been riding what, 10-12 years? Are you the same Dracul on the other thread bashing the hell out of Harley and anyone stupid enough to own one? So did you ever OWN one or just bum rides off other people until you could afford a Jap bike? Ease up a little fire rider.... we are all people with a common passion. Did you call all the people who taught you to ride "gap-toothed filthy scumbags" or did you save that until the training wheels came off? No hatred, just curious.
Read the rest pinhead. I did learn on HD's. My FIRST bike was a Sportster. BUT THEY ARE STILL SHITTY BIKES! Buell is better. He is actually launching a racing outfit...good for him. About time he broke with "The Motorcycle Company". As I said in the other thread....the NEWER HD's are begining to get it right. They have a ways to go. Antiquated, air cooled, pushrod mills are neanderthal. Pretty to look at but you need SERIOUS cubic inches before your can generate anything near the power of smaller, four banger Jap motors. JUST THE FACTS SON> Only the uber-huge Bourget 145's can match the Euro's and Jap machines. The new BMW 1000RR is tremendous; nearly 200 HP out of the box...I'd love to own one and MAY!!!!!...And by the way, besides my NOS boosted super custom VTXC I ALSO own an ass kicking, Harley eating Triumph Rocket 3, which I intend to SLAP A ROTREX SUPERCHARGER ON!!!!! 240+ PONIES TO LEAVE EVERYTHING IN THE REAR VIEW MIRRORS DUDE. I like performance. Harley's are pretty but underpowered bikes for old folks, yuppies, pretenders and imitation tough guys...you fit into any of these categories?????? I Do like V-Rods...but they are Porsche, not HD....:)
bagger dude

Little Rock, AR

#10 Jan 29, 2010
more name-calling. Funny, I could have sworn when we took the first three V-Rod prototypes out of the Pilgrim Road plant north of Milwaukee in '02, we were actually on Harley-Davidson machines. Yes, Porsche helped with the engine (based on the rr1000 design from early race days), but the hydro bent frame was ours...the wheels were ours...the suspension and electrics were ours, etc. etc.etc. Why don't you start ranting about the Buell Rotax powerplant? Or how all bikes run bearings from all over the world? Hungary, Pakistan, Yugoslavia? Rant about how ALL BIKES utilize Jap electronics? Wait... Harley runs Delco/Delphi.....American stuff. Do you know where your rear driveshaft was copied from probably before you were born? Ease up, super biker man.... we're all family....dysfunctional as we may be. Stop bashing old dudes....old age and treachery overcomes youth and skill every time. Next time you get "dissed" by some turd Harley guys, just keep riding. Ain't that what it's all about anyway? Peace, ride safe, hope I can buy you a beer somewhere, someday.

“Can take a hit, and give one!”

Since: Feb 09

Colorado, New Mexico, Hawaii

#11 Jan 29, 2010
bagger dude wrote:
more name-calling. Funny, I could have sworn when we took the first three V-Rod prototypes out of the Pilgrim Road plant north of Milwaukee in '02, we were actually on Harley-Davidson machines. Yes, Porsche helped with the engine (based on the rr1000 design from early race days), but the hydro bent frame was ours...the wheels were ours...the suspension and electrics were ours, etc. etc.etc. Why don't you start ranting about the Buell Rotax powerplant? Or how all bikes run bearings from all over the world? Hungary, Pakistan, Yugoslavia? Rant about how ALL BIKES utilize Jap electronics? Wait... Harley runs Delco/Delphi.....American stuff. Do you know where your rear driveshaft was copied from probably before you were born? Ease up, super biker man.... we're all family....dysfunctional as we may be. Stop bashing old dudes....old age and treachery overcomes youth and skill every time. Next time you get "dissed" by some turd Harley guys, just keep riding. Ain't that what it's all about anyway? Peace, ride safe, hope I can buy you a beer somewhere, someday.
A little more education for you BD. Allow me to elaborate on a few points if i may. HD is all about IMAGE. The Motorcycle Company (YUK,YUK) markets bikes for "bad boys" and the "sturgis"/tough guy/independence...thing. But really, at the end of the day, it's all about COMFORMITY1 No imagination, no innovation in years, dated technology...non-progressive arrogance! Buell represented a break from that backwards thinking mode. Erik Buell is an innovator and free thinker. Finally he was "permitted" to ditch that tiredf old 1200 series and introduced a radical new departure: the wonderful 1125R. An instant tract winner. A true performance machine...DOMESTIC!!! The first of its kind and what does HD do??? Shutter Buell's doors! HD had an ooportunity to launch an iconoclastic brand that traversed a new direction. Those of us who appreciate performance machines were watching and waiting. The new Buells showed awesome potential and promise. The 1125R is the quickest, best handling American bike ever produced. Erik Buell remains a talented engineer and designer. He moves on....HD seems to be more RUN BY ACCOUNTANTS THAN TRUE MOTORCYCLISTS!

Erik Buell has established: Erik Buell Racing ( www.erikbuellracing.com ) in East Troy, Wisc. and he's pumping out race bikes based on the 1125R while still supporting the old style, out of date XBRR machines. Perhaps more PROGRESSIVE companies such as Triumph, Ducati, Honda(yuk, yuk), Suzuki and the others should consider recruiting his considerable talents. HD has its head in the sands and let its greatest asset and innovator go.......
bagger dude

Little Rock, AR

#12 Jan 29, 2010
AHHH...we do have something in common.... love for 1125r's and Erik's legacy. That's why I scooped up two 1125's back when H-D did their bonehead stunt. It's not over for Buell entirely.... Down here at MMI we still train for Buell servicing and repairs. Had a couple occasions to meet Erik. Great guy. He has a lot in common with John Britten, in fact, used a V-4 two stroke Britten engine in his RW750 bikes.(road warrior) Cool stuff. www.brittennz.com ...? I think? Or just google Britten motorcycle.(you probably already know this stuff, but someone else may not)
bagger dude

Little Rock, AR

#13 Jan 29, 2010
bagger dude wrote:
I've owned a couple Buells. Crashed one pretty good down in N. Carolina on some spilled anti-freeze in a curve, broke my legs so now it's forward controls or nothing. I remember laying in the road as my BMW buddy pulled up after watching it happen. I lifted my visor and said "it's still better than working, bro.." Yeah, Buell had it's problems. You still cannot recreate or duplicate the riding experience you get on a fat-tired, cammed-up, loud-assed AMERICAN sportbike. The early 'tubers had lotsa problems that the factory was ready to fix. The problems came from shitty dealers that were untrained or just too stubborn to handle the warranty issues. I was treated like shit a number of times by a number of dealers who hated the brand because their techs were unwilling to be trained on them and usually screwed up more than they attempted to repair. The bigger issue was the lack of places to hang chrome and tacky accessories on a Buell....another money loser for dealerships. They weren't marketed hard enough to sportbike enthusiasts. Gixxer, cbr guys, zx guys were not recruited hard enough to get them to jump brands. Most of these guys are interested in flat-out speed anyway and cant go around a curve hard if their life depended on it...I see them every day. Hit the freeway, haul ass thru the gears, and go 5mph under the posted offramp speed. Buells are for the serious rider who lives in the chicken strips section of his tires. God bless Erik and his creations....
Drac...did you miss this entry??? LOL.
bagger dude

Little Rock, AR

#14 Jan 29, 2010
oops...www.britten.co.nz...... my bad

“Can take a hit, and give one!”

Since: Feb 09

Colorado, New Mexico, Hawaii

#15 Jan 29, 2010
bagger dude wrote:
<quoted text>Drac...did you miss this entry??? LOL.
Yes this is a good post. Interesting. Strong points.

I don't see Erik fading into the sunset any time soon, despite this setback from HD and the fancies of passing fashion. His bikes were and are the real deal; plenty of grunt and girth for the twisties. remind me of American Ducati's to some degree or Aprilla's. Nice to have a true performance competitor in all categories of riding that is domestic. The next few years will be interesting to watch and see if this talent is snatched up by any of the bigger race circuit players. Perhaps he he can challenge the elite without a major sponsor. If anyone can do such a thing it would be Buell.

I guess I'm just pissed at HD for letting this fine talent and creative mind go. Harley Davidson could have plowed completely new ground with these powerful bikes. HD has a tremendous history and legacy. I would like to see it restored to its early twentieth century dominance in the 21st century with projects like the 1125 and similar rockets. Competition is at the heart and soul of a motorcycle company I believe. Certainly the tamer brands pay the bills and such but the super sports, nakeds, hypermotards, and various track bikes establish the guts and spirit of a nameplate. The Japanese bikes fight it out all over the world, as do the Euros. Buell is certainly a contender in these arenas. This why I love the new BMW 1000R. Guts, grit, laying it on the line with new technology, power, traction control, the works. No reason HD should not be a part of all this.
bagger dude

Cincinnati, OH

#16 Jan 29, 2010
BRAVO DRAC..... you rule!!

“Can take a hit, and give one!”

Since: Feb 09

Colorado, New Mexico, Hawaii

#17 Jan 30, 2010
Thanks man, I love bikes...as you do. If a company with the stones and history and success of HD can create the empire they have they can also enter again the arena of balls to the wall competition! Why not?

Anyway, today is the first day of annual Motorcycle Swap Meet at the coliseum here in Denver. Tremendous custom bikes, hot females, beer, stunt jumping, beer, vendors, leather, beer, brats, t-shirts, all the major MC's (my cousin Don Bentley started the Brothers Fast and later brought in the Hell's Angels to Colorado)...and did I mention beer? Gotta get some breakfast, walk my pit bull Beowulf, hit the weights for 30 sets or so, unplug the digital camera and I'll be on my way! I might even visit the wet T-Shirt contest and have some beer! BIKES!!!!!!!!!!
PrincipalDiesel

Winslow, AZ

#18 Jan 30, 2010
Like I said before, HD screwed up. I like the traditional cruiser for the old syle look. HD had it both ways and let it go. No need to argue, we all have passions. Buell will represent American Post Industrial Pardise Lost. HD may have a master plan anyway. Bring the bike back in a non-union shop.

“Can take a hit, and give one!”

Since: Feb 09

Colorado, New Mexico, Hawaii

#19 Jan 31, 2010
...I've heard scuttlebutt that HD might dump the V-Rod line as well!!! This I heard from some HD sales guys at the bike show yesterday. Poor marketing is essentially what killed Buell. They should never have been sold alongside HD models: completely different breed. No interest in traditional cruiser showrooms.
PrincipalDiesel

Winslow, AZ

#20 Mar 5, 2010
dracul wrote:
...I've heard scuttlebutt that HD might dump the V-Rod line as well!!! This I heard from some HD sales guys at the bike show yesterday. Poor marketing is essentially what killed Buell. They should never have been sold alongside HD models: completely different breed. No interest in traditional cruiser showrooms.
A salesman from an HD dealership told me the Buell owners killed the line themselves, because they would not support their local HD/Buell dealerships. I am still amazed. Buell made such effective machines. It is a good feeling to ride a bike that was purposefully designed and built.

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