Motorcycle dangers: Recent deaths rai...

Motorcycle dangers: Recent deaths raise warning flag

There are 29 comments on the El Paso Times story from Apr 10, 2008, titled Motorcycle dangers: Recent deaths raise warning flag. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

Three motorcycle-related traffic fatalities in two days might simply be a tragic coincidence.

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Terry Bennington

West Liberty, OH

#1 Apr 11, 2008
THE STORY SAYS:: "Motorcycles obviously don't offer structural protection for driver or passenger, a danger that is compounded by bikers not wearing helmets."

THE NHTSA.GOV SAYS: "88,000 motorcyclists will be in an accident, 4,810 will die."

THE CDC.GOV SAYS: "1,400,000 Americans will suffer a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI), 280,000 of those from an accident, and 50,000 will DIE from a TBI, this year!"

Conclusion: motorcyclists need helmets? Someone needs a remedial math class!

THE STORY SAYS: "Motorcycles also have a visibility deficit. Most drivers, while attuned to other vehicles around them, aren't quite as aware of the presence of the smaller 'cycles unless they're in packs."

THE NHTSA.GOC SAYS: "44,000 motrcycles will be in an accident that was caused by another driver turning or pulling out in front of the motorcycle, this year"

FEDERAL LAW SAYS: "A motorcycle headlamp may be wired to allow either its upper beam or its lower beam, but not both, to modulate from a higher intensity to a lower intensity" [CFR 49, Part 517, Section 108, S7.9.4].

CONCLUSION: When was the last time you saw a motorcycle with modulating headlights? When was the last time you read a story TELLING motorcyclists they can use modulating headlights? Someone needs to re-set their priorities to "Let's REALLY save lives and tell motorcyclists something useful in PREVENTING accidents!"

According to statistics, ALL Americans need to be wearing a helmet (because they don't, America will be spending $60,000,000,000 (billion) on TBI health care, this year!), not just motorcyclists. Where's the cries for the "All Americans Wear Helmets All the Time" law???

Get off my motorcycle, and let me ride. I wear a helmet when I ride - it's my CHOICE!
Incredible

El Paso, TX

#2 Apr 11, 2008
you read about these deaths and see the populartity of these cycles and even I sit back at a red light and desire to learn and get one myself.

this morning on I-10 West I am driving in my secured vehicle when I see a motorcycle approaching at a high speed on my side mirror. then I see a black old Ford Truck with Texas Plates and a Mexican Flag Emblem that has "mexico" underneath, literally chasing the motorcycle. The truck barely misses my right end bumper as the motorcycle barely misses my front right end bumper and they continue to speed down the freeway at rate of at least 85 mph.

I continue to watch as they weave in and out of traffic and wonder are they racing or is the truck trying to kill the cyclist.

After watching that and regaining my nerves based on what was a close call for my vehicle I can only pray and think that it is very difficult to feel sorry for those who tempt fate and tempt yours along with it.

They are educated as to the do's and don'ts I am just convinced that they really dont give a da..m..n
elp915

Austin, TX

#3 Apr 11, 2008
Any idiot can walk into a Jap bike dealer and ride out on a motorcycle that out of the box unmodified will do close to 200MPH. A Harley rider would have to spend many thousands of dollars to get his box stock bike to exceed 125MPH.
Gaser

Brownsville, TX

#5 Apr 11, 2008
I drive fast all the time nothing ever happens to me .
juarez

Jurez, Mexico

#6 Apr 11, 2008
Gaser wrote:
I drive fast all the time nothing ever happens to me .
STFU and go take you geritol. Maybe the next time im driving fast, youll be in front of my car
Gaser

Brownsville, TX

#7 Apr 11, 2008
juarez wrote:
<quoted text>STFU and go take you geritol. Maybe the next time im driving fast, youll be in front of my car
LOL , come on , the Ruters don't go that fast. Bajan!
Ron Groves

Brownsville, TX

#8 Apr 11, 2008
While there are several tired old clichés, stereotypes and misconceptions in your editorial that I could address I chose to instead comment on your last sentence.“the use of good judgment, sobriety and adherence to traffic laws are at least as important for the motorcyclist as they are for other drivers”.

I can only say, Amen. But it doesn’t stop there.

We need to wake up and stop acting like these deaths are no body’s fault.

In almost every case the media says “the driver (or rider) lost control“. Unfortunately this is almost never true. I’ll say it again. This just is not true. In reality, in almost every case, someone chose to give up control of their vehicle. They made a decision.

The drivers gave up control when they decided to drag race on I-10.

The motorcycle rider gave up control when he decided to speed on Trans Mountain or Montana.

The car driver (or motorcyclist) gave up control when they decided to drink and drive.

The teenage girl died because the parents decided it was okay for her to be out at 4:00 am and some one else decided it was okay to drink and drive.

A 14 year old girl died because parents of a 15 year old decided it was ok to drive the family car one night. A few weeks later a police officer and his wife, on a motorcycle, almost died for the same reason.

The senior citizen gave up control when they decided to try and drive even when they knew that their eyes and reaction time had deteriorated to the point they had became a hazard.

People decide to give up control while driving every time they use a cell phone, apply make up, or eat a meal, cut in and out of traffic on I-10, tailgate a semi truck.

And when they turn in front of a biker, or run over a child in a school zone, its ok because after all, everyone knows,“they are hard to see”.(Blame the victim).

As long as we allow people to not take responsibility for their actions or inactions, as long as we say “they lost control” as long as we refuse to point a finger and say “YOU made a bad decision and you killed him, her, them,” we will have blood on the highways and streets of El Paso.
hellrider

Yuma, AZ

#10 Apr 12, 2008
just say NO to helmets
not quite

United States

#11 Apr 12, 2008
wonder why it is that whenever there's a motorcycle wreck there's always a footnote somewhere in the story as to whether the rider was wearing a helmet. unless, of course, the rider was an off-duty police officer. hmmm, then it's curiously omitted from the story. the emphasis should be on what caused the accident in the first place and avoidance of accidents rather than whether the rider had planned on crashing or not. in a free country, what are laws for? they're for protecting the rights of others without infringing on one's individual rights, correct? in other words, i should be able to do whatever the heck i want AS LONG AS i'm not infringing on anyone else's rights or not hurting anyone else. how can it be constitutional to pass a law that's only purpose is to protect oneself - from oneself. how is that freedom? that's a slippery slope, friends. 18 & below? fine, works for me. but then why would you or I get a hefty ticket for not wearing a seat belt when your kids' school bus doesn't even HAVE seat belts? a grown adult should have the choice, it's unconstitutional to say one is breaking the law for PUTTING HIMSELF ONLY in danger. if that's the case, there will be bans on anything dangerous, such as rappeling, skydiving, bungee jumping,-- and if a biker has to wear a helmet, then why doesn't a person driving a convertible car have to wear one, too? see where i'm going with this? i hope so....
PoisonPen

El Paso, TX

#12 Apr 12, 2008
hellrider wrote:
just say NO to helmets
Hey, don't wear a helmet, fine with me, we need your organs (well, probably not your liver).
EPT

El Paso, TX

#13 Apr 13, 2008
Gaser II wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Punyeta, do you always have to b1tch and moan like a vieja. I bet you're a flamin' fairy. I bet you have big hairy wet labias, just like your ugly sister, you monster of a mom and your Punyeta father.
I knew it was you pinchi flamer, el gaser ii, WTF is that all about or is that your iq level. The only vieja that b1tches and moans is tu esposa. I know cause you've told me. Talk about your whales on the beach. Man you still don't know who i am do you. I let you ponder on that last thought idiota
El Camacho

El Paso, TX

#16 Apr 13, 2008
Gaser II wrote:
<quoted text>
You wouldn't know sh1t if it was smeared all over your face. Oh I forgot, that's right, your mom was sitting on your face last night. Dude wipe that crap off your face. Don't care and never have cared who you are. To me your just a whiny little t*w*a*t, just like your Punyeta of a Dad.
I can see that eddie b1tch c. is back, you give yourself away so much that you don't know even know who you are writing about or is it la mamona de sf this time
ROADKILL

El Paso, TX

#18 Apr 14, 2008
Yesterday, about 7:15,pm as I was driving east on I-10 nearing the University in a pocket of traffic; three motorcycle drivers whizzed by me at a speed probably exceeding 90mph. I was doing about 58 and they passed and left me within a matter of seconds. Two of those riders had female passengers with them. And, to top it off one of them almost clipped a car two lanes over as they raced and weaved in and out of traffic lanes. I would have thought that after last weeks accidents these riders would have been a bit more respectful and cautious about their driving habits and with respect with those who had lost their lives. I GUESS NOT. I know that those fools that passed me up will never read this forum, probably not their style. But I tell you what, after observing their reckless behavior and those riders putting innocent drivers in harms way by their actions, if one or all three had crashed OR OTHER DRIVERS LIKE THEM, i wouldn't give a rats ass if they had to pick them up with a sponge in the aftermath of an accident. GOOD RIDENCE!
Reader

Austin, TX

#19 Apr 14, 2008
hellrider wrote:
just say NO to helmets
I will be in your funeral in no time.. U asked for it bud!!!
Reader

Austin, TX

#20 Apr 14, 2008
Gaser wrote:
I drive fast all the time nothing ever happens to me .
YEAH RIGHT!! dont be to sure buddy. Don't take life for granted cause you know darn well it does not work that way!!! OH IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN TO ME!! BIG BIG MISTAKE.. DIOS TE CUIDE.

“live to ride and ride to live”

Since: Jan 08

Dundalk, Md.

#21 Apr 14, 2008
To bad there no biker here they are all out riding. Alot cage BS and think someone on a bike is here this BS. Those who ride know what kills see in the paper everyday. Somebody on a cell phone talking and not drive well. You put all the protection out there. Save more by taking that phone away. If you are going to wear the helmet wear all the other protection gear to go with it. Then the might work a little bit better. See I have To go riding.
Dude

El Paso, TX

#22 Apr 14, 2008
cadman311 wrote:
To bad there no biker here they are all out riding. Alot cage BS and think someone on a bike is here this BS. Those who ride know what kills see in the paper everyday. Somebody on a cell phone talking and not drive well. You put all the protection out there. Save more by taking that phone away. If you are going to wear the helmet wear all the other protection gear to go with it. Then the might work a little bit better. See I have To go riding.
Dude are you drunk right now.

“live to ride and ride to live”

Since: Jan 08

Dundalk, Md.

#23 Apr 14, 2008
It like the teen on the cell phone talk and said hold on . Crash to the bank die talk on the phone. Tell the whole story. Not a part of the big problem. Reading the paper and talking on cell phone drive to your washington D.C. on I-95 everyday here the right problem. Not who wearing the helmet or not.

“live to ride and ride to live”

Since: Jan 08

Dundalk, Md.

#24 Apr 14, 2008
I did not see

That the biker problem. To many toys with the cars.

“live to ride and ride to live”

Since: Jan 08

Dundalk, Md.

#25 Apr 14, 2008
El Piso how many names do you go under.

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