Biker angered at huge repair bill after Harley Davidson engine breaks down

Sep 27, 2009 Full story: The Sunday Mail 38

DAVID STEEL was furious to be hit with a 2400 repair bill when the engine on his Harley-Davidson packed in.

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Larry

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Sep 27, 2009
Thats what happens when you buy junk like Harley.....My Honda has 160,000 miles on it never had a problem.
lyndog

United States

#2 Sep 27, 2009
honda haaa
LINK74

Manassas, VA

#3 Sep 27, 2009
It's out of warranty, on it's second owner, and he still gets an offer to cover over 50% of the repair cost. This guy has nothing to complain about. NOTHING!
beatlesinthebog

Christchurch, New Zealand

#4 Sep 28, 2009
LINK74 wrote:
It's out of warranty, on it's second owner, and he still gets an offer to cover over 50% of the repair cost. This guy has nothing to complain about. NOTHING!
They must be the same everywhere,think nothing of spending heaps on chrome doodads and stuff to sew on jackets,but when it comes to the bits that actually make it go...moan their cocks off?
Shannon

Murray, KY

#5 Sep 28, 2009
Larry wrote:
Thats what happens when you buy junk like Harley.....My Honda has 160,000 miles on it never had a problem.
Yeah its goons like you thats the reason were in the shape were in now. I bet you drive a Toyota and whine about the recession. My Harley was built in Milwalkee and thats where my money went,how bout you. Sure Harley has built some "Lemons" but for a company do stay strong after 106 years they must have been doing something right. Why don't you keep riding your Jap Crap and quit whining cause real scooter tramps wont let you park your sled next to theirs. What are you ventin cause you always gotta ride in the back, or maybe thats how you like it, in the back.
America 1st

Dallastown, PA

#6 Sep 28, 2009
Shannon wrote:
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Yeah its goons like you thats the reason were in the shape were in now. I bet you drive a Toyota and whine about the recession. My Harley was built in Milwalkee and thats where my money went,how bout you. Sure Harley has built some "Lemons" but for a company do stay strong after 106 years they must have been doing something right. Why don't you keep riding your Jap Crap and quit whining cause real scooter tramps wont let you park your sled next to theirs. What are you ventin cause you always gotta ride in the back, or maybe thats how you like it, in the back.
What a heap of BS. Harley has the problems they have due to Management AND the employees. "Metric" bikes have been assembled in the U.S for years, since Reagan imposed the tarrifs to bail out HD the first time. HD aare not MADE in the USA either. They are "assembled" only. They will be driven out just like CAT was, the union. HD also did a lot of their own financing, granted a lot of BAD loans. Stop blaming it on everything and everyone else.
America 1st

Dallastown, PA

#7 Sep 28, 2009
beatlesinthebog wrote:
<quoted text>They must be the same everywhere,think nothing of spending heaps on chrome doodads and stuff to sew on jackets,but when it comes to the bits that actually make it go...moan their cocks off?
HD will not even gareentee their chrome.
LINK74

Manassas, VA

#8 Sep 28, 2009
Reagan bailed out H-D? What a crock. The Japanese trade policy was a joke. Copy what sells and flood the market with subsidized goods until the competition folds. Shut down their markets to outside competition. Talk about government welfare.

BTW Have the cost of your running shoes gone down since they moved the plant to Vietnam?
America 1st

Dallastown, PA

#9 Sep 28, 2009
LINK74 wrote:
Reagan bailed out H-D? What a crock. The Japanese trade policy was a joke. Copy what sells and flood the market with subsidized goods until the competition folds. Shut down their markets to outside competition. Talk about government welfare.
BTW Have the cost of your running shoes gone down since they moved the plant to Vietnam?
HD pizzed and moaned till reagan imposed the tarrifs on the jap bikes. fact. How is it "metric" bikes can be made cheaper? And don't post the BS that HD is better quality, that is a crock.
LINK74

Manassas, VA

#10 Sep 28, 2009
Like I said, unfair, anti competetive, government subsidized, market flooding, kamakazi trade practices. Note the tarifs were pulled before the expiration date.
The metric bikes have come a long way in the quality department. I will agree that nobody can go 160+mph cheaper than a jap bike. Too bad they got away from their originality like the 750-four and aped the H-D. Back in '83 they stole the identical look of the Sportster rear fender and tail light and had to change it.
And speaking of BS, the japaneese motorcycle manufactures went on record in '84 "we are not going after the big bike market". Yea, until they tooled up to ape more Milwaukee V-TWIN iron.
Define "quality" and we can go from there. LOL
Whobetter

Severn, MD

#11 Sep 28, 2009
We aglee with writer. Harley not make good bike in Amelica. Honda make better machine and quality sure to improve since company move plant back to Japan. Japaneese worker loyal to company and work long hours at lower wages to prove thay can make better motorcycle than Amelican competitors. Japan government do its part by giving Honda extra money so they can price motorcycles and auto lower than Amelican companies. Mr. Honda say if you no like how we work, you welcome to buy Harley and then we have last laugh.
really now

York, PA

#12 Sep 29, 2009
Larry wrote:
Thats what happens when you buy junk like Harley.....My Honda has 160,000 miles on it never had a problem.
yeah, right . hee, hee.
Dave

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Sep 29, 2009
Every Harley made breaks down, the dealer should be required to tell you the bikes needs serviced every 500 miles, or you will be using your cell phone for a tow.
Trick Pony

Cynthiana, KY

#14 Oct 2, 2009
LINK74 wrote:
Like I said, unfair, anti competetive, government subsidized, market flooding, kamakazi trade practices. Note the tarifs were pulled before the expiration date.
The metric bikes have come a long way in the quality department. I will agree that nobody can go 160+mph cheaper than a jap bike. Too bad they got away from their originality like the 750-four and aped the H-D. Back in '83 they stole the identical look of the Sportster rear fender and tail light and had to change it.
And speaking of BS, the japaneese motorcycle manufactures went on record in '84 "we are not going after the big bike market". Yea, until they tooled up to ape more Milwaukee V-TWIN iron.
Define "quality" and we can go from there. LOL
Quality is a 34,000 dollar Trike that is not underpowered and rides like your stove top. Jap bikes went water cooled a long time ago where needed. The 2010 Tri Glide has a catalytic converter on an already lean and hot running engine. I will roast your right leg and not give anyone any long term service. Harley could have at least water cooled the heads. No R&D and Harley appeased EPA at the expense of their customers. It is like the old AMF days, bring a new bike home and start fixing it. That 70 year old air pump was never meant to run that lean or to have a catalytic converter stuffed up it's pipe. You can hang one on a water cooled but Harley won't spend the money it takes to develop one! I just bought a 32,000 plus tax trike that I can't ride from June through September. All Harley would do for me is told me to take the lower fairing off in the summer. Screw Harley
Irover

United States

#15 Oct 2, 2009
Trick Pony sorry to hear your troubles but Harley's heat problems have been well known since 1997! Look back on some of the posts on this board
and youll hear your story over and over again. Why the motor company didnt put the VROD engine in the Tri-Glide is beyond understanding? The Tri-Glide has about as much engineering in it as my 1951 Servi-car (it also runs hot on a summer day).
Bottom line, HD has lost touch with reality! They seem to ignore the obvious and just keep doing
the same-old, same-old. Seems each year the "new" models are nothing more than last years model painted black!! Or resyling the sporty to look like the old 750. Wow, what inovation. Bottom
line, if you want a bike or trike that is going to last, not overheat, and has the latest in
motorcycle technology, it is not going to be a
HARLEY DAVIDSON....
Jack-Cates

Edmonton, Canada

#16 Oct 2, 2009
My 4 Harleys are just excellent,only time one was in any repair shop was for tires when I was on a long trip away from home, Jack W. Cates, Calgary, Canada
Free is free

Joplin, MO

#17 Oct 2, 2009
It's a shame to me, but Harley doesn't produce anything I want. I ride sportbikes, so it's either euro or japanese. The japanese bikes offer far more bang for the buck, so the choice was obvious.

I really wish Cannondale could have made a go of it. They seemed innovative and used very high-grade components on their dirt bikes, but they couldn't get things off the ground.

I'd love to see an american sportbike that would take on the CBR, ZX and GSXRs with the same level of reliability, sophistication and price. I'd buy it!
LINK74

Manassas, VA

#18 Oct 3, 2009
Trick Pony - Not since the '36 overhead has H-D been about cutting edge tech stuff, it's about tweeking the tried and true. This may be their ultimate undoing but has served them well for many years.

Some love it for what it is, some hate it for what it's not. They build what the H-D customer base wants, not the general motorcycle community.

Don't forget that there was a waiting list for quite a number of years.

Did you test ride one of those trikes before you decided to buy it?
Trick Pony

Paris, KY

#19 Oct 4, 2009
LINK74 wrote:
Trick Pony - Not since the '36 overhead has H-D been about cutting edge tech stuff, it's about tweeking the tried and true. This may be their ultimate undoing but has served them well for many years.
Some love it for what it is, some hate it for what it's not. They build what the H-D customer base wants, not the general motorcycle community.
Don't forget that there was a waiting list for quite a number of years.
Did you test ride one of those trikes before you decided to buy it?
No I did not test ride before I bought, unless you lived near the largest dealerships you could not even see a Tri Glide on the floor. They are sold by order only and I looked at 5 dealerships trying to see one. They brought them out to Sturgis and maybe Daytona but most rural dealerships don't get to keep on on the floor. Up until 2010 the faithfull could always work around the heat problem, slipons, SE-AC and richen up the AFR. Larger oil cooler and parade fan on the big Baggers. Yes we were stupid enough to spend another 1000 to fix Harley attempt to appease EPA at out expense. However with the addition of the catalytic converter to the headdpipes on all the 50 state bikes the normal mods we made to get a little extra performance and cool the bike/trike down just plug up the converter over time. With the exception or the oil cooler and fan of course. The extended engine life of these engine's will n ot be good, thus the engine failure from heat related conditions. Heads mostly and that will be the rear head that runs the hottest.

I am a Harley guy and know how to get the performance out of and cool a bike down. I fixed my 03 the first day I got it. How many average buyers know how to work around heat problems or will even know they have a cat on there until the heads melt down. Harley hid it in the head pipe instead of adding it in as a bolt on so the customer would not know i unless they read their owners manual.

The succsess of the new bikes/trikes will depend on the satisfaction of the average buyer. The Harley loyalist will do as they always do, fix a new bike right out of the box. Most average buyers are like the buyers who buy Toyota, Honda or metric bikes. They expect them to run right out of the box with no problems and no need for mods to make them perform or hang together.

It is over for Harley if they do not water cool and develop something they can see to someone aside from a baby boomer.
Paul

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Oct 6, 2009
Shannon wrote:
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Yeah its goons like you thats the reason were in the shape were in now. I bet you drive a Toyota and whine about the recession. My Harley was built in Milwalkee and thats where my money went,how bout you. Sure Harley has built some "Lemons" but for a company do stay strong after 106 years they must have been doing something right. Why don't you keep riding your Jap Crap and quit whining cause real scooter tramps wont let you park your sled next to theirs. What are you ventin cause you always gotta ride in the back, or maybe thats how you like it, in the back.
Yes my Toyota was built in Tenn, and runs perfect.....thanks.......

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