Harley-Davidson needs flexible workers

There are 20 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Mar 2, 2011, titled Harley-Davidson needs flexible workers. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

Part of a company's new business model, the Springettsbury Township motorcycle manufacturing plant is looking to continue filling a pool that will, ideally, contain 300 to 500 "flexible workers," said Michael DiMauro, spokesman.

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casual

Milwaukee, WI

#1 Mar 2, 2011
They need so many because they cant keep the ones they hire. If you wanna be treated like your not worth something then this is the job for you.
George

Washington, DC

#2 Mar 2, 2011
casual wrote:
They need so many because they cant keep the ones they hire. If you wanna be treated like your not worth something then this is the job for you.
And how do you know?
FlexWorkers-Yes

York, PA

#3 Mar 2, 2011
casual wrote:
They need so many because they cant keep the ones they hire. If you wanna be treated like your not worth something then this is the job for you.
Waiting for a comment like this. Knowing that I have no ax to grind and I do not support excessive corporate (white collar) greed nor do I support exceesive blue collar greed, let me say this.

The article mentioned that most of the flex workers work at or near 40 hours per week, granted with no benefits but did you see the requirements.

To qualify, "Applicants must be at least 18 years old with a high school degree or equivalent and at least six months of work experience."

$16.75 per hour in York, PA (not New York City) for the above qualifications...seems pretty dam* good to me. And anyone who meets or slightly exceeds the minimum qualifications and gets hired should be more than happy to be making $16.75 per hour.
Psycho Bob Hoffman

Shrewsbury, PA

#4 Mar 2, 2011
They will need to be flexible, because Harley keeps telling them to 'bend over' all the time.
Pick Knitter

Shrewsbury, PA

#5 Mar 2, 2011
Quote from article: "Applicants must be at least 18 years old with a high school degree or equivalent and at least six months of work experience."

I don't think there is any such thing as a high school "degree". I'm pretty sure the highest honor you can receive at that level is a "diploma".
Bill Z

Hershey, PA

#6 Mar 2, 2011
What a shame. A couple yrs ago Harley workers thought it was horrible to pay a couple extra pennies for healthcare every month. They exercised their rights to complain and NOW look at the situation. Those lost pennies have turned into lost hundreds of dollars.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#7 Mar 2, 2011
The article also forgot to mention is you have to pay full union dues. With NO representation from the union and the union won't listen to any problems you have with your supervisor or the company. You will have NO vote and can't attend any union meetings even though you have to pay the same union dues.
George

Washington, DC

#8 Mar 2, 2011
DFBHD wrote:
The article also forgot to mention is you have to pay full union dues. With NO representation from the union and the union won't listen to any problems you have with your supervisor or the company. You will have NO vote and can't attend any union meetings even though you have to pay the same union dues.
Sounds just like PennDOT!
Pick Noser

York, PA

#9 Mar 2, 2011
Pick Knitter wrote:
Quote from article: "Applicants must be at least 18 years old with a high school degree or equivalent and at least six months of work experience."
I don't think there is any such thing as a high school "degree". I'm pretty sure the highest honor you can receive at that level is a "diploma".
Damn, ALWAYS wrong boy! I want you to know I HAVE a "HIGH SCHOOL CERTIFICATE of ATTENDANCE DEGREE"!!!! I don't know 'jack #hit' cause I received said degree 'online'!
Nevertheless, I have the degree hangin' on my metal ghetto trailer wall! And by next year this time, will also have a college degree,(IF these constant electrical outages cease) garnered from the same online system. How's that smarty pants?
Bell

Dover, PA

#10 Mar 2, 2011
The article did nt mention you cant get sick and miss any days or your fired.Kids get sick your gone.Some one dies in faimly miss a day gone.No insurance.People have famlies they need insurance.
Jerry

York, PA

#11 Mar 2, 2011
I need a flexible woman. Any gymnasts out there?
FlexWorkers-Yes

Mount Wolf, PA

#12 Mar 2, 2011
Bell wrote:
The article did nt mention you cant get sick and miss any days or your fired.Kids get sick your gone.Some one dies in faimly miss a day gone.No insurance.People have famlies they need insurance.
I get the impression that you do not like the idea of the "flexible worker" program. Read my previous comment.

So for the record since we live in a free country with free choice,

I hear Rutter's is hiring.$7.50 +/- per hour to start and may be an extra $0.50 differential if you are willing to work night shift.

Think about it...
Ben

York, PA

#13 Mar 2, 2011
WANTED! FLEXIBLE WOMAN. Must have a high school "degree", blonde hair, all her teeth, and be able to mount a fire hydrant. Call Ben Dover at Harley, ext.069
NOMOREHARLEY

York, PA

#14 Mar 2, 2011
Fair-Trade Harleys only. Non-Union Bike? Might as well ride a Honda. Much better quality and engineering.
retiredharley

AOL

#15 Mar 2, 2011
I normally don't comment on these sites, but after reading the article about the Kansas City Plant ratifying a new contract with concessions and the comments and this one I can't help but feel hurt, shocked, and heartbroke.
It sounds like Harley has gotten all three of it's manufacturing plants to ratify new contracts with major concessions by using threats and strong arm tactics all the while destroying it's most important asset, it's long term, well trained, dedicated employees.
I know I'm old school, but I could not imagine working for a Harley that didn't care about or trust it's employees and it's employees didn't care about or trust the company.
We WERE family, strong and there for each other. Willie G. would come talk to us and ask us how we were doing, if we needed anything, how our families were, etc. and we would ask him the same. Like one commenter said after the Kansas City article we WOULD have worked for free, if necessary, if Harley was going through hard times all the time knowing that the company would take care of us when times got better. We trusted and respected each other. It was family. It was only 13 years ago!
Now, the other heart stopper is that I read that Harley is starting up a new manufacturing and assembly plant in India. Not just an assembly plant to get around tariffs like in Brazil, but a full blown manufacturinf and assembly plant to supply fully assembled bikes to Europe. That would have been unheard of years ago fot this great AMERICAN icon.
I would say if your family is suffering and you need temporary work to support them or your fresh out of high school or in college and need a temporary job, go for it. I think most people would understand that. Just don't think it will be a long term job because it appears Harley no longer wants or supports long term employees.
It seems like Harley is now run not by real bikers that love and respect the sport but by a bunch of uncaring bean counters that might spend money on new equipment and factories but not for long term employees and benefits. It reminds me of the AMF days when they put a lot of money in new equipment, but pushed a lot of poor quality bkes out the door to loyal customers. We all know how that affected sales and profits.
I think if Harley wanted to actually restructure their company for the long term both sides would go back to the basics of mutual trust and respect. Both sides take the necessary concessions to get the company healthy again and then both sides share in the rewards when they're back on solid profitable ground.
anti dumb

Bowling Green, KY

#16 Mar 3, 2011
FlexWorkers-Yes wrote:
<quoted text>I get the impression that you do not like the idea of the "flexible worker" program. Read my previous comment.

So for the record since we live in a free country with free choice,

I hear Rutter's is hiring.$7.50 +/- per hour to start and may be an extra $0.50 differential if you are willing to work night shift.

Think about it...
Or go over to BAE where their union has unlimited suck days, pay you to sit around and drink coffee, and get paid above the average wage scale

Management like Harrold, Nace, and Reese would love to have you
FlexWorkers-Yes

York, PA

#17 Mar 3, 2011
retiredharley wrote:
We WERE family, strong and there for each other. Willie G. would come talk to us and ask us how we were doing, if we needed anything, how our families were, etc. and we would ask him the same. Like one commenter said after the Kansas City article we WOULD have worked for free, if necessary, if Harley was going through hard times all the time knowing that the company would take care of us when times got better. We trusted and respected each other. It was family. It was only 13 years ago!
I am confused, if "We WERE family" why were there strikes and picket lines? You would have worked for free. I recall only 4+ years ago driving down Route 30 watching the workers walk the picket line. Where was the, "trust and respect for each other" then?
George

Washington, DC

#18 Mar 3, 2011
George wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds just like PennDOT!
Well! Penn DOT DOES take union dues (fair share taxes) from the non-union employees!
George

Washington, DC

#19 Mar 3, 2011
NOMOREHARLEY wrote:
Fair-Trade Harleys only. Non-Union Bike? Might as well ride a Honda. Much better quality and engineering.
non-unuion bike??????? Where does harley make non-union bikes? There are still more union workers than there are casual workers. If the quality has dropped and the union is still there then who is to blame????
Bell

Dover, PA

#20 Mar 3, 2011
FlexWorkers-Yes wrote:
<quoted text>
I get the impression that you do not like the idea of the "flexible worker" program. Read my previous comment.
So for the record since we live in a free country with free choice,
I hear Rutter's is hiring.$7.50 +/- per hour to start and may be an extra $0.50 differential if you are willing to work night shift.
Think about it...
I just happen to work there and iam telling what i see and hear and why they don't stick around.So think about that.

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