Myanmar to fete 2013 with first publi...

Myanmar to fete 2013 with first public countdown

There are 7 comments on the The Charlotte Observer story from Dec 31, 2012, titled Myanmar to fete 2013 with first public countdown. In it, The Charlotte Observer reports that:

Workers prepare to set up a stage as preparations are underway for the country's first ever public New Year's countdown celebration, at Myoma grounds in Yangon, Myanmar, Monday, Dec.

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Irrawaddy Watch

UK

#1 Dec 31, 2012
The event is organised by a Thai company, of a country that has lost most of true Buddhist values. It is a Christian New Year according to Christian clendar. It is very absurd to make a meal of it in a deeply devout Buddhist Burma.
Even in the West there is another New Year day, 13 January; that is accoding to another Christian calendar.
It is even more absurd that more freedom that is the result of political reform will alleviate rural poverty and bring in prosperity by adopting a Western tradition. How ignorant the low life Burmese male model can get.
Is Burma heading towards the worst of both world: poverty created by underdevelopment and loss of Burmese identity as a result of misuse of increased fteedom?
Pity.
Just a warning.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#2 Jan 1, 2013
I love celebrating different celebrations with different cultures and in so doing I have never lost my Highlander culture. Is Burma heading towards the worst of both world. That's up to the Burmese. I am a traitor to my Highlander culture when I eat in Chinese or Vietnamese restaurant in your narrow world. You live in your narrow world and I'll live in my big wide world and I'll be Highlander and you'll be Burmese. Aaaah, life is wonderful. what date is your New Year and I'll help you celebrate.
Irrawaddy Watch

Reading, UK

#3 Jan 1, 2013
dunadd wrote:
I love celebrating different celebrations with different cultures and in so doing I have never lost my Highlander culture. Is Burma heading towards the worst of both world. That's up to the Burmese. I am a traitor to my Highlander culture when I eat in Chinese or Vietnamese restaurant in your narrow world. You live in your narrow world and I'll live in my big wide world and I'll be Highlander and you'll be Burmese. Aaaah, life is wonderful. what date is your New Year and I'll help you celebrate.
You are missing the point. Burmese can eat haggis. They can eat Indian curry, or anything. But when they trying to emulate Western tradition without understanding the roots, it is pathetic. A poor country trying to compete in display of fireworks, of a Christian Gregorian date ( they don't even know what it is) is a laughing stock.
You are the one who lives in a narrow world of Western culture. Eating foreign food does not make your world big.
Why don't you suggest that the whole world .celebrates Chinese New Year?
You have completely missed the point.
For the Burmese it is better to be A-rate Burmese than Z-rate copy Westerner, knowing nothing about Western history and culture having forgotten Burmese history and culture too.
Orthodox Christians have their New Year on 13 January. In case you don't know that.
Hope you had enjoyed your Hogmany.But don't expect others to celebrate your Hogmany.
Burmese need to respect and cherish their own traditions. If they are in the West they can certainly enjoy the New Year celebrations; when in Rome do as Romans do. Get it?
Fiscal Cliff

Reading, UK

#4 Jan 1, 2013
Nero fiddles when Rome burns.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#5 Jan 2, 2013
Yeah, i get it, IW. We're both saying the same. Whose fault is it Burmese have forgotten Burmese history and culture. Some of my people live in America some since the 1600s yet monthly there are gatherings of the clans, Robert Burns dinners and get togethers year round. They celebrate American holidays and traditions and still keep the Scottish traditions. same with the Germans, Greeks, vietnamese, degar, and all the other cultures gathered in North America. If Burmese have forgotten Burmese history and culture, it ain't our fault. It's the Burmese fault. Burmese need to respect and cherish their own traditions. teach it to them. There are gatherings of the clans in America, Germany, France, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and everywhere clans have gathered. If there has been neglect of the teachings of Burmese history and traditions, don't blame that on fireworks and other things, look inward. Isn't looking inward in Buddhist teaching? Yes it tis. Well, then do so. Quit looking outwardly for all of Burma's troubles. It gets kinda monotonous, the British made me do it. This and that happened. The Burmese king buried in India. The Indian maharajah buried in Burma. Why? Why did the British first take Lower Burma and then Upper Burma? maybe Burmese should look inwardly. Deal with the outwardly things outwardly and the inwardly things inwardly. even your great teacher taught outwardly is a result of inwardly. Love ya, Burmese. Afterthought, I think you, IW, are an outwardist, Fireworks has nothing to do with the inward. You are using those fireworks as outward nationalistic happenings. According to you one cannot do anything others do and be Burmese. If the Vietnamese shoot fireworks, is that all right? Could Burmese and Vietnamese shoot fireworks together, both being Buddhist. Could a Burmese, tai, Lao, Cambodian and Vietnamese Buddhist get together and shoot fireworks? Sure did miss the point, didn't i, IW the nationalist?
Irrawaddy Watch

UK

#6 Jan 2, 2013
dunadd wrote:
Yeah, i get it, IW. We're both saying the same. Whose fault is it Burmese have forgotten Burmese history and culture. Some of my people live in America some since the 1600s yet monthly there are gatherings of the clans, Robert Burns dinners and get togethers year round. They celebrate American holidays and traditions and still keep the Scottish traditions. same with the Germans, Greeks, vietnamese, degar, and all the other cultures gathered in North America. If Burmese have forgotten Burmese history and culture, it ain't our fault. It's the Burmese fault. Burmese need to respect and cherish their own traditions. teach it to them. There are gatherings of the clans in America, Germany, France, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and everywhere clans have gathered. If there has been neglect of the teachings of Burmese history and traditions, don't blame that on fireworks and other things, look inward. Isn't looking inward in Buddhist teaching? Yes it tis. Well, then do so. Quit looking outwardly for all of Burma's troubles. It gets kinda monotonous, the British made me do it. This and that happened. The Burmese king buried in India. The Indian maharajah buried in Burma. Why? Why did the British first take Lower Burma and then Upper Burma? maybe Burmese should look inwardly. Deal with the outwardly things outwardly and the inwardly things inwardly. even your great teacher taught outwardly is a result of inwardly. Love ya, Burmese. Afterthought, I think you, IW, are an outwardist, Fireworks has nothing to do with the inward. You are using those fireworks as outward nationalistic happenings. According to you one cannot do anything others do and be Burmese. If the Vietnamese shoot fireworks, is that all right? Could Burmese and Vietnamese shoot fireworks together, both being Buddhist. Could a Burmese, tai, Lao, Cambodian and Vietnamese Buddhist get together and shoot fireworks? Sure did miss the point, didn't i, IW the nationalist?
You still don't get it, Scotty. Inwardist, outwardist non-sense, concocting reason to suit your purpose. Standard practice of most simpletons.
It was the English that colonised Burma, with Scots and Welsh as their lackeys in the process of colonising. Leave out whose fault it is; it will only muddy the pure water of logic. Your intention is to blame the Burmese.
What right did England have to colonise Burma or any country?
Scotland had wars with England. Have you forgotten Culloden?
The point is : Why are Burmese trying to be an extremely poor copycat of rich Western countries to celebrate a Christendom event when almost all Burma are Buddhist?
There are more countries that do not celebrate Christian New Year than those that do.
So why the basket case Burma try to emulate rich countries?
In any case it is a media event to exploit the gullible Burmese by materialist Thai media company. It is about uncritically following a Western tradition instead of considering relevance to Burmese way of life. There are far more worthy things, of the West, for the Burmese to learn about eg difference between English law and Scottish law, the difference between common law and statute law, the differences and similarities between various philosophies, notions of natural justice, etc, etc.
As a Highlander, what are you doing, ignoring Scotland's independence?
Why aren't you supporting Alex Salmon?
Stop branding people.
We rather you do not comment on Burmese affairs. For we know more about Scotland and England, going back to pre-Norman times than you know about Burma. We also know Ireland too.
If you are so liberal and open-minded find out when Burmese New Year is. And organise a huge
party lighting the skies.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#7 Jan 2, 2013
What right did England have to colonise Burma? None. Not only do I remember Culloden, I also remember Bannockburn. Celts in the days of old lit bonfires on tops of hills in preChristian Scotland commemorating the New Year. Christian New Year. I have never thought of it in that respect. As English is the language today of the business world, i think the "Christian" calendar is used in the same respect, for order in the world system. Even though some of your Burmese compatriots celebrate the Christian New Year, the customs, traditions and history of Burma should be taught. Why learn English and Scottish law and its differences? Are we picking and choosing what western things to learn and not learn. How can you possibly know how much of Burma I know? I can know about Diwali in Madras and Bangalore and nothing about Burma. I can know about the Trung sisters of Viet and nothing about Burma. Granted I don't know as much about Burma as a person in Taunggyi or Pye but i can say i know more about Burma than you think i do. I am a world citizen and know a few things about a lot of people. I will find out when Burmese New Year is and try to find some Burmese to celebrate with. Hopefully have a Burmese New Years meal. I don't support Alex Salmond. i'm not into supporting anyone person. I support Scotland's independence. Stop branding people. To whom are you referring? Whom did I brand? Nice conversing, IW. I enjoy it.

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