Minnesota Twins defend pulling Kevin ...

Minnesota Twins defend pulling Kevin Slowey with a no-hitter going,...

There are 23 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Aug 15, 2010, titled Minnesota Twins defend pulling Kevin Slowey with a no-hitter going,.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Twins fans haven't had much to boo about these days, so maybe they were just practicing when they rained a torrent of disapproval on manager Ron Gardenhire on Sunday at Target Field.

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BigSky Viking

United States

#1 Aug 15, 2010
Even Slowey say's it was the right decision, so why are some questioning the best Manager in baseball? Manager of the Year? Absolutely, start the campaign NOW.
BigSky Viking

United States

#2 Aug 15, 2010
Runner up 5 times. Give me a break. Its Gardy's turn.
WALGAG TOKYO

Saitama, Japan

#3 Aug 16, 2010
After around 80 pitches, Slowey was laboring, having trouble getting batters out. The double play saved him, but he wasnt nearly a sharp as in the early innings. For any pitcher, this puts considerable stress on his arm, and for a pitcher who missed his last start because of the early stages of tendintis, this can be doubly troubling. Since he was already walking on egg shells, I dont think the decision to take him out was wrong. If he hadnt been throwing the no-hitter, he would have been taken out long before 106 pitches. Hopefully the tendinitis wont recur and he will be able to pitch great ball when the real season begins in September.
E_Fudd

Lakeville, MN

#4 Aug 16, 2010
At the RedStar site, "fans" are up in arms caling for Gardy's head because he ended the chance to "make history". Really, how "historic" are no-hitters anyway? Clearly, if Slowey hadn't thrown so many balls earlier in the game, hadn't been injured recently and hadn't been laboring through the later innings, he might have had a chance to finish. It was the right call to pull him but a great performance by Slowey - regardless.
I was there

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Aug 16, 2010
WALGAG TOKYO wrote:
After around 80 pitches, Slowey was laboring, having trouble getting batters out. The double play saved him, but he wasnt nearly a sharp as in the early innings. For any pitcher, this puts considerable stress on his arm, and for a pitcher who missed his last start because of the early stages of tendintis, this can be doubly troubling. Since he was already walking on egg shells, I dont think the decision to take him out was wrong. If he hadnt been throwing the no-hitter, he would have been taken out long before 106 pitches. Hopefully the tendinitis wont recur and he will be able to pitch great ball when the real season begins in September.
You are 100% correct. He was struggling the last couple of innings. If not for the Twins defense multiple times, not only would there not have been a nohitter, but the Twins would have been losing. Sometimes I scratch my head over Gardy's handling of the pitchers, not this time.
The Hard Truth

Northome, MN

#6 Aug 16, 2010
I have an idea: if the Twins get to the 7th game of the World Series, let's make Gardy stay in the clubhouse and let Rick Anderson manage because we can't risk Gardy's health. He'd understand, and I'm sure he'd appreciate our concern.
Milo Minderbinder

Memphis, TN

#7 Aug 16, 2010
Not a big deal. It speaks volumes about the good people in this organization. Twins' fans should be proud. Stuff like this happens nowhere else in baseball.
Kevin

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Aug 16, 2010
BS. I think Gardy is a great manager and I like the Twins, but all this does is confirm that some of our pitchers don't have the attitude to win the "big" games. Yes, Gardy is the one that pulled him, but Slowey needs to man up and try to finish the game. Big deal if he throw another 20 pitches. He should have pitched until he gave up a hit, his arm is not going to fall off.
raymond

Eden Prairie, MN

#9 Aug 16, 2010
It's official, Gardy must go --he has completely lost it! When you have 40,000 Minnesota NIce people boo you-you are a nutjob. This over protecting of player and pitch counts are absolutely ridiculous
raymond

Eden Prairie, MN

#10 Aug 16, 2010
Milo Minderbinder wrote:
Not a big deal. It speaks volumes about the good people in this organization. Twins' fans should be proud. Stuff like this happens nowhere else in baseball.
Yeah, like choking every year in the playoffs with a nutjob manager
raymond

Eden Prairie, MN

#11 Aug 16, 2010
BigSky Viking wrote:
Even Slowey say's it was the right decision, so why are some questioning the best Manager in baseball? Manager of the Year? Absolutely, start the campaign NOW.
Yeah, nice playoff record Gardy and how many wins do the Twins have against the Yankees and Red Sox??. Give me a break. I suppose you think Tim Brewster is a great coach too!! Sheesh!
Denny Hocking

Hamden, CT

#12 Aug 16, 2010
If the Twins were in 3rd place going nowhere, or if they had 8 bona-fide starters and Slowey was "just one of them," I could understand the rationale of letting him start the 8th inning. The fact is, 3/5 our starting pitching has been anything but reliable up until the last 3 weeks, and Gardy needs to do whatever is necessary to protect arms late in the season.
Mike L

United States

#13 Aug 16, 2010
Kevin wrote:
BS. I think Gardy is a great manager and I like the Twins, but all this does is confirm that some of our pitchers don't have the attitude to win the "big" games. Yes, Gardy is the one that pulled him, but Slowey needs to man up and try to finish the game. Big deal if he throw another 20 pitches. He should have pitched until he gave up a hit, his arm is not going to fall off.
I don't think the problem was Slowey throwing another 20-30 pitches, but rather how his arm will react in his next start. Also, it wasn't the most impressive no-hitter that was being thrown. He had to work his way out of trouble a few times and his command was struggling in the 7th. I mean, he had 6 outs left to get and he may have got the no-hitter or he may have loaded the bases for Jon Rauch or whoever.
puffy26

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Aug 16, 2010
Say what you want. We need this guy down the stretch and it was the right move regardless if fans liked it or not.
Chad

Onalaska, WI

#15 Aug 16, 2010
I agree with letting him go out there and pull him if he gives up a hit.The whole pitch count is overblown. so he missed a start and a little tendinitous big deal.
TAZ

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Aug 16, 2010
The right decision was made by a good coaching staff. Every one needs to relax what if he would have said at the end of the game my elbow hurts. now you have a problem of losing Slowy for the rest off the year. It was a smart decision and as a baseball coach myself I would have may that same decision.
OmbreduNord

Rio Rancho, NM

#17 Aug 16, 2010
Independent of pitch count, any manager with common sense and intelligence in pre-pitch count days (e.g. early Tom Kelly, Sparky Lyle etc) would have pulled Slowey early for the SAME valid reasons. Having a healthy Slowey in the long-term is much more important for the team and his career. If you don't HAVE to have T.J. surgery yet why risk it when you have a smoldering elboy?
Keep It Simple Stupid

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Aug 16, 2010
It'd be like leaving a star running back on the field to get to 2000 rushing yards. You risk a whole heck of a lot for a small personal reward.

Last I checked managers aren't paid to watch/let individuals pad their individual goals (other than Chili with Favre). They are there to win games, and make sure they have the best product on the field for the long hall.

Good long term vision in use there. Hate Gardy all you want. It was the right difficult decision by a good leader.

Since: Jun 10

The Thunder Mansion

#19 Aug 16, 2010
Twins pitchers are notorious for running out of gas come September. Gardy and Anderson are well aware of that fact and acted accordingly. No-hitters are a dime a dozen this year, anyway. I would rather see Slowey, or any other starter, take a no-hitter into the 7th and get pulled twice, than see a no-hitter once.
Jeffrey

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Aug 16, 2010
LMAO @ best manager in baseball! HOw many World Series has Gardenhire managed in let alone win?
I hope the fans boo Gardy's fat ass everytime he comes out of the dugout.

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