Bob Hunter commentary: Volquez mispla...

Bob Hunter commentary: Volquez misplaces blame like he does his pitches | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 36 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from May 23, 2011, titled Bob Hunter commentary: Volquez misplaces blame like he does his pitches | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

The Edinson Volquez mystery deepened, spiked by some words from the Reds starter that seemed almost as wild as some of his pitches.

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Buckeye Gal

United States

#1 May 23, 2011
Dusty Baker is a joke.
Ohio71

Pickerington, OH

#2 May 23, 2011
Enjoy yo ur moment of glory Tribe. September is what matters. The Reds will recover and win the division as expected and you will fall when reality sets in. See you in Cincy.
Tom in Massachusetts

Berne, NY

#3 May 23, 2011
GREAT READ, Bob!(if you're not a Reds beat writer you SHOULD be)... telling it like it is.
Doc

Kenton, OH

#4 May 23, 2011
Whats bother me today is the same thing that has bothered me for several years now. We traded Josh Hamilton for this clown.
Janice

Lexington, KY

#5 May 23, 2011
Buckeye Gal wrote:
Dusty Baker is a joke.
I don't agree. The Reds have been so much better since he's been their manager. We have a good blend of young talent, some still coming along, and veterans who are great leaders in the dugout and locker room.
We have been very streaky this season, though. I attribute most of that to the fact we had some of our best pitchers on the DL for awhile, and some of our best players have had bad slumps here and there (Gomes for now).
Dusty cares so much for this team and these players. And I've been following the Reds since Crosley Field. Dusty's one of the good ones. I didn't want him here at first, didn't like him much when he was with the Cubs (if I remember right). At any rate, it took me awhile to warm to him, but after watching him these seasons, I think he's doing a great job.
Jason

Albany, NY

#6 May 23, 2011
Ohio71 wrote:
Enjoy yo ur moment of glory Tribe. September is what matters. The Reds will recover and win the division as expected and you will fall when reality sets in. See you in Cincy.
The delusion is strong in this one.
GIBoxer5

Ft Mitchell, KY

#7 May 23, 2011
I've seen and now have heard enough from Volquez for a while. Jocketty needs to bury him in triple-a while he gets his control and ATTITUDE under control. Going into yesterday Volquez was 3-1 with just short of a 6 era. But yeah, the offense is the problem.. Organization has plenty of depth and thank god Volquez thought too much of himself to sign to offseason contract extension the Reds offered him.
Just Wondering

United States

#8 May 23, 2011
Janice wrote:
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I don't agree. The Reds have been so much better since he's been their manager. We have a good blend of young talent, some still coming along, and veterans who are great leaders in the dugout and locker room.
We have been very streaky this season, though. I attribute most of that to the fact we had some of our best pitchers on the DL for awhile, and some of our best players have had bad slumps here and there (Gomes for now).
Dusty cares so much for this team and these players. And I've been following the Reds since Crosley Field. Dusty's one of the good ones. I didn't want him here at first, didn't like him much when he was with the Cubs (if I remember right). At any rate, it took me awhile to warm to him, but after watching him these seasons, I think he's doing a great job.
Ask Cubs fans how Baker ruined the young pitching arms coming through that organization.
Franklin County

United States

#9 May 23, 2011
Janice wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't agree. The Reds have been so much better since he's been their manager. We have a good blend of young talent, some still coming along, and veterans who are great leaders in the dugout and locker room.
We have been very streaky this season, though. I attribute most of that to the fact we had some of our best pitchers on the DL for awhile, and some of our best players have had bad slumps here and there (Gomes for now).
Dusty cares so much for this team and these players. And I've been following the Reds since Crosley Field. Dusty's one of the good ones. I didn't want him here at first, didn't like him much when he was with the Cubs (if I remember right). At any rate, it took me awhile to warm to him, but after watching him these seasons, I think he's doing a great job.
Janice, you are wrong.
Many fans, commentators, and writers blamed his tendency to overuse pitchers and for damaging the careers of Robb Nen, Kerry Wood, Mark Prior and Edinson Volquez. Less dramatic cases include Shawn Estes, Bill Swift, John Burkett, Mark Leiter, Kirk Reuter and Aaron Harang. Wood and Prior, along with Edinson Volquez of the Reds, all suffered serious arm injuries following their first full seasons under Baker. Wood and Prior averaged 122 and 126 pitches per start, respectively, in their final six regular-season starts of 2003.[
too bad

Columbus, OH

#10 May 23, 2011
Dusty has a good heart and would probably be a good bench coach, but as a head coach he plain sucks. His decision making is terrible, I can't believe the GM who knows good coaching has faith in him. He'll get close, but never grab the ring.
Janice wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't agree. The Reds have been so much better since he's been their manager. We have a good blend of young talent, some still coming along, and veterans who are great leaders in the dugout and locker room.
We have been very streaky this season, though. I attribute most of that to the fact we had some of our best pitchers on the DL for awhile, and some of our best players have had bad slumps here and there (Gomes for now).
Dusty cares so much for this team and these players. And I've been following the Reds since Crosley Field. Dusty's one of the good ones. I didn't want him here at first, didn't like him much when he was with the Cubs (if I remember right). At any rate, it took me awhile to warm to him, but after watching him these seasons, I think he's doing a great job.
Buckeye Bob

Columbus, OH

#11 May 23, 2011
Get rid of the dew rag and wear your hat like a baseball player should. Be a professional in looks as well as actions. It may be worth a try my man !!
Janice

Lexington, KY

#12 May 23, 2011
Franklin County wrote:
<quoted text> Janice, you are wrong.
Many fans, commentators, and writers blamed his tendency to overuse pitchers and for damaging the careers of Robb Nen, Kerry Wood, Mark Prior and Edinson Volquez. Less dramatic cases include Shawn Estes, Bill Swift, John Burkett, Mark Leiter, Kirk Reuter and Aaron Harang. Wood and Prior, along with Edinson Volquez of the Reds, all suffered serious arm injuries following their first full seasons under Baker. Wood and Prior averaged 122 and 126 pitches per start, respectively, in their final six regular-season starts of 2003.[
Well, that could well be right. I'm sorry I don't know more about that. It seems to me, though, that he is very aware of the pitch count and tries to pull them when they get around 100. Maybe that's not the ideal. I really don't know. I do know, though, that some of our starters are really struggling with the first inning. I don't know who might be at fault for that -- other than the pitcher himself. Another thought, I think pitching fast, like Chapman's 100+, will probably damage shoulders and elbows the most. Accuracy should be the biggest key in pitching. It obviously doesn't mean much if you pitch 100 mph but can't get it over the plate - like Chapman's last outing.
Thanks for the information.
Baby Buckeye

United States

#13 May 23, 2011
I think I have to agree with those who questions Baker's skills and acumen as a manager. He has a history of over-use and poor use of pitchers....Woods and Prior jump to mind. Their careers have never been the same. Just because Baker is considered "a player's coach" doesn't make him Sparky Anderson......
Really

Columbus, OH

#14 May 23, 2011
Sounds like a change of scenery is in order for young Mr. Volquez. For a season it looked like both teams went even in that trade, but now it is lop-sided. Even during Volquez's glory year, Marty used to criticize how many pitches he wasted to hitters. This guy pitch 7 innings and be close to 130 pitches sometime because of all the damn nibbling at corners or trying to get guys to chase out of the zone. That don't work on 2-0 and 3-1 counts. THROW SOME DAMN STRIKES, YOU THROW 96+ MPH YOU DOO-RAG DOMINICAN WUSS!!.
HighKickThruCana l

Bucyrus, OH

#15 May 23, 2011
Friday night, the tribe was down by that one run and it was late in the game, so I broke out my authentic 1995 jersey with the alcs championship patch and 2 seconds later the tribe was winning by a run :)

Love that 1995 championship patch, too bad its not a world series patch :) but it still has the aura of winning :)

Late in the games, the cincy pitchers put the ball right where the tribe loved it best :)
FRANKly Speaking

United States

#16 May 23, 2011
Janice wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't agree. The Reds have been so much better since he's been their manager. We have a good blend of young talent, some still coming along, and veterans who are great leaders in the dugout and locker room.
We have been very streaky this season, though. I attribute most of that to the fact we had some of our best pitchers on the DL for awhile, and some of our best players have had bad slumps here and there (Gomes for now).
Dusty cares so much for this team and these players. And I've been following the Reds since Crosley Field. Dusty's one of the good ones. I didn't want him here at first, didn't like him much when he was with the Cubs (if I remember right). At any rate, it took me awhile to warm to him, but after watching him these seasons, I think he's doing a great job.
Janice, hasn't your mama told you: Don't drink the Kool-aid. Baker ruins 'young talent'.
Janice

Lexington, KY

#17 May 23, 2011
Baby Buckeye wrote:
I think I have to agree with those who questions Baker's skills and acumen as a manager. He has a history of over-use and poor use of pitchers....Woods and Prior jump to mind. Their careers have never been the same. Just because Baker is considered "a player's coach" doesn't make him Sparky Anderson......
Unfortunately for us and baseball in general, there will never be another Sparky.
Ozzie Guillen

Springfield, IL

#18 May 23, 2011
Baby Buckeye wrote:
I think I have to agree with those who questions Baker's skills and acumen as a manager. He has a history of over-use and poor use of pitchers....Woods and Prior jump to mind. Their careers have never been the same. Just because Baker is considered "a player's coach" doesn't make him Sparky Anderson......
No matter what the arguement, never never never use Dusty Baker and Sparky Anderson in the same sentence.
Baby Buckeye

United States

#19 May 23, 2011
Ozzie Guillen wrote:
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No matter what the arguement, never never never use Dusty Baker and Sparky Anderson in the same sentence.
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Correction noted and acknowledged....thank you.

Sparky FOREVER!!!
MrJoeVotto

Columbus, OH

#20 May 23, 2011
""What I'm getting tired of is negative stories about somebody who's not doing something or somebody gets thrown out stealing," Baker said Saturday. "It's called stealing because you're stealing. You're going to get caught stealing sometimes. If a guy ain't hitting, he ain't hitting. If a guy ain't pitching right, he ain't pitching right. We've got more guys doing stuff right than guys doing stuff wrong."
That is debatable at this point, although it doesn't necessarily mean it will continue this way."
Really, Bob? It's debatable that more of the Reds are doing things well than those who are slumping or pitching poorly? In your opinion, maybe. Which is a joke to me. I, for one, am so sick of your anti-Reds slant that I could, and think I will, vomit all over the "Go Tribe" bandwagon that is once again winding through Ohio.
Whether or not the Reds right the ship and are successful this year, 5 years down the road or 20 years from now, I'm a loyal Cincinnati Reds fan. Have been for many, many years and will continue to be, long after the latest crop of Indians fans has forgotten about "their" team.
GO REDS!

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