Skopje, Macedonia: Kitsch capital of the Balkans

Oct 31, 2012 Full story: WHIO 66

Winston Churchill is flashing his trademark victory sign from the rooftop of Macedonia's shining white new foreign ministry building.

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mr large

Mansfield, MA

#1 Oct 31, 2012
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This article is about the art term. For other uses, see Kitsch (disambiguation).

"The Widow", kitsch example of late 19th century popular lithograph of a humorous painting by Frederick Dielman.Kitsch (/ˈkɪt&# 643;/; loanword from German) is an inferior, tasteless copy of an extant style of art or a worthless imitation of art of recognized value. The concept is associated with the deliberate use of elements that may be thought of as cultural icons[1] while making cheap mass-produced objects that are unoriginal. Kitsch also refers to the types of art that are aesthetically deficient (whether or not being sentimental, glamorous, theatrical, or creative) and that make creative gestures which merely imitate the superficial appearances of art through repeated conventions and formulae. Excessive sentimentality often is associated with the term.

The contemporary definition of kitsch is considered derogatory, denoting works executed to pander to popular demand alone and purely for commercial purposes rather than works created as self-expression by an artist.[2] The term is generally reserved for unsubstantial and gaudy works that are calculated to have popular appeal and are considered pretentious and shallow rather than genuine artistic efforts.[3]

The concept of kitsch is applied to artwork that was a response to the 19th century art with aesthetics that convey exaggerated sentimentality and melodrama, hence, kitsch art is closely associated with sentimental art
mr large

Mansfield, MA

#2 Oct 31, 2012
is an inferior, tasteless copy

this is the essence of fyrom
Xenofon

Canada

#3 Oct 31, 2012
mr large wrote:
is an inferior, tasteless copy
this is the essence of fyrom
Well said!

"The centerpiece of the construction bonanza is the 28-meter (92-foot) tall bronze equestrian colossus called "Warrior on a Horse" a monument that bears an uncanny resemblance to Alexander the Great, the ancient hero of Greece."

You Turkoslavs are a joke!

Makedonia was born Greek!
Hellenic Pride

Australia

#4 Nov 4, 2012
Funny how this the 4th time this article has been put on the forum.Skopje,kitsch capital of the balkans,also known as Disneyland
vwp

Pittsburgh, PA

#5 Nov 4, 2012
thank the greek spy agency for this bit of drama.i hope the reporter enjoys the 30 pcs. of silver he got under the table.the macedonians are idiots at times. we do not need the help of fake stories.
Hellenic Pride

Australia

#6 Nov 4, 2012
vwp wrote:
thank the greek spy agency for this bit of drama.i hope the reporter enjoys the 30 pcs. of silver he got under the table.the macedonians are idiots at times. we do not need the help of fake stories.
haha the greek spy agency,you skops are hilarious any excuse 4 diffrent news reports about skopje disneyland but wait its from the greek spy agency haha

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#7 Nov 5, 2012
Democratic country not base on nation or on religion.

Nationalist Gruevski want Macedonia to base on nation, as we live in 1800 or in 1900.

All planet recognize Macedonia, but not make nothing to put the country in eu-nato, because of Gruevski.

Gruevski give excuses to Greece Bulgaria and other nationalists and euroskepticals.

When Macedonia will throw out Gruevski, will join eu-nato direct! And with name Macedonia!

Because Greece Bulgaria can't put veto, because they will not have excuses.

Macedonia need to have example USA. Need to be neutral-multicultural-liberal democratic country as USA.

Gruevski in realy not want to be part of eu. In realy he like the national fights, and those fights can be only out of eu.

Macedonia need to throw out this danger Gruevski!

Macedonia need FAST to join eu-nato!

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#8 Nov 5, 2012
All Macedonian citizens need to understant this.

Read behind the lines.

What say Greece?

"Macedonia want to stole our identity. For this reason we want to change name and to have this name, who with this can't stole our identity"

What say Bulgaria? Similar things.

What mean those?

That the real problem is not the name, but is the identity.

Greece and Bulgaria have excuse because Gruevski want to base on identity.

For same reason, albanianphones want independency.

If Macedonia base on identity as want Gruevski, will never recognize as Macedonia, will never join eu-nato, and will dissolve.

For this reason, if nationalist Gruevski throw out, what excuse can have Greece and others? nothing! In this case, west will put with pressing Macedonia in eu-nato. But now not exist this pressing.
mr large

Mansfield, MA

#9 Nov 5, 2012
european2012 wrote:
All Macedonian citizens need to understant this.
Read behind the lines.
What say Greece?
"Macedonia want to stole our identity. For this reason we want to change name and to have this name, who with this can't stole our identity"
What say Bulgaria? Similar things.
What mean those?
That the real problem is not the name, but is the identity.
Greece and Bulgaria have excuse because Gruevski want to base on identity.
For same reason, albanianphones want independency.
If Macedonia base on identity as want Gruevski, will never recognize as Macedonia, will never join eu-nato, and will dissolve.
For this reason, if nationalist Gruevski throw out, what excuse can have Greece and others? nothing! In this case, west will put with pressing Macedonia in eu-nato. But now not exist this pressing.
my friend you are right. if originally fyrom had said we are slavs and will keep the name, the west may have put pressure on greece. now you are fucked. the world or the powers that be have accepted the greek position. it is too late now even if gruevski is gone. the well has been poisoned. how does it feel to knock at the door of a deaf man?
mr large

Mansfield, MA

#10 Nov 5, 2012
vwp wrote:
thank the greek spy agency for this bit of drama.i hope the reporter enjoys the 30 pcs. of silver he got under the table.the macedonians are idiots at times. we do not need the help of fake stories.
i assume you are refering to judas. what does judas have to do with greeks protecting thier history and territories? you are in america now learn to be a human

Since: Sep 12

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#11 Nov 5, 2012
european2012 wrote:
Democratic country not base on nation or on religion.
Nationalist Gruevski want Macedonia to base on nation, as we live in 1800 or in 1900.
All planet recognize Macedonia, but not make nothing to put the country in eu-nato, because of Gruevski.
Gruevski give excuses to Greece Bulgaria and other nationalists and euroskepticals.
When Macedonia will throw out Gruevski, will join eu-nato direct! And with name Macedonia!
Because Greece Bulgaria can't put veto, because they will not have excuses.
Macedonia need to have example USA. Need to be neutral-multicultural-liberal democratic country as USA.
Gruevski in realy not want to be part of eu. In realy he like the national fights, and those fights can be only out of eu.
Macedonia need to throw out this danger Gruevski!
Macedonia need FAST to join eu-nato!
Bulgaria and Greece will always have an excuse to veto FYROM.Oneof the reasons is the history manipulating.The other one is the name of FYROM.

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#12 Nov 5, 2012
mr large wrote:
<quoted text>
my friend you are right. if originally fyrom had said we are slavs and will keep the name, the west may have put pressure on greece. now you are fucked. the world or the powers that be have accepted the greek position. it is too late now even if gruevski is gone. the well has been poisoned. how does it feel to knock at the door of a deaf man?
If Macedonia change identity and say "We have name Macedonia but we are Slavics", in this case will have problem from Albanians Bulgarians and others. If say "We are Bulgarians" will have problem from Albanians Serbians and others.

The only way to not have problems is to be liberal-democratic-neutral(to not base on nation and on religion)-multicultural country as USA.

Macedonia need to say: "Our name is Macedonia, and we are multicultural country who not base on nation and on religion. We base on liberal democracy". In this case west will put Macedonia in eu-nato with pressing.

Since: Sep 12

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#13 Nov 5, 2012
european2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
If Macedonia change identity and say "We have name Macedonia but we are Slavics", in this case will have problem from Albanians Bulgarians and others. If say "We are Bulgarians" will have problem from Albanians Serbians and others.
The only way to not have problems is to be liberal-democratic-neutral(to not base on nation and on religion)-multicultural country as USA.
Macedonia need to say: "Our name is Macedonia, and we are multicultural country who not base on nation and on religion. We base on liberal democracy". In this case west will put Macedonia in eu-nato with pressing.
The "Macedonian" ego is too big to do that...

“Liberalism”

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#14 Nov 5, 2012
Those who feel Macedonians nation not loose nothing. If Macedonia is multicultural country as USA, will be in "elite", and will be freedom, and every human can believe what want.
PHILIP THE MACEDONIAN

Greece

#15 Nov 5, 2012
european2012 wrote:
Those who feel Macedonians nation not loose nothing. If Macedonia is multicultural country as USA, will be in "elite", and will be freedom, and every human can believe what want.
Ajde Fakedonski Fyromian,Titoistic Yugoslavian pseudonation!
Skopians are the Yugoslavisation of the Vardar Bulgarians from Vardarska.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TD...
Not existed this Titoistic Yugoslavian pseudonation before 1945!
The coins prove that the Macedonians are Greeks!
Greek coins of Macedonia! Tetradrachm Amphipolis!!

MAKEDONWN PRWTHS
MAKEDONWN PRWTHS
MAKEDONWN PRWTHS
MAKEDONWN PRWTHS

http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coin_ed/Macedonia...
It is the Greek language! Not Serbocroatian Skopian!

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#16 Nov 5, 2012
PHILIP THE MACEDONIAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Not existed this Titoistic Yugoslavian pseudonation
Citizens of Macedonia see this: Greek nationalist talking for nation!

They can't say NOTHING against name Macedonia if this name not base on nation!

For this reason need fast to throw out nationalist Gruevski!

Only in this case Macedonia will be strong, will keep name of Macedonia, will join eu-nato and direct.
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#17 Apr 30, 2013
european2012 wrote:
Democratic country not base on nation or on religion.
Nationalist Gruevski want Macedonia to base on nation, as we live in 1800 or in 1900.
All planet recognize Macedonia, but not make nothing to put the country in eu-nato, because of Gruevski.
Gruevski give excuses to Greece Bulgaria and other nationalists and euroskepticals.
When Macedonia will throw out Gruevski, will join eu-nato direct! And with name Macedonia!
Because Greece Bulgaria can't put veto, because they will not have excuses.
Macedonia need to have example USA. Need to be neutral-multicultural-liberal democratic country as USA.
Gruevski in realy not want to be part of eu. In realy he like the national fights, and those fights can be only out of eu.
Macedonia need to throw out this danger Gruevski!
Macedonia need FAST to join eu-nato!
Macedonia need to have example USA. Need to be neutral-multicultural-liberal democratic country as USA.
==>>YUGOSLAVIA MORON ==>> USA DOES NOT CLAIM SOMEBODY ELSE HISTORY&DOES NOT IMPOSE TERRITORIAL CLAIMS!BASED ON YUGOSLAVIAN COMMUNIST LIES&PROPAGANDA!
aleksandar makedonski

Skopje, Macedonia

#18 Jun 3, 2013
european2012 wrote:
Those who feel Macedonians nation not loose nothing. If Macedonia is multicultural country as USA, will be in "elite", and will be freedom, and every human can believe what want.
THAN WHY COUNRY LIKE GREECE WHO IS IN EU ISNT multicultural country?
aleksandar makedonski

Skopje, Macedonia

#19 Jun 3, 2013
CANADEZOS wrote:
<quoted text>Macedonia need to have example USA. Need to be neutral-multicultural-liberal democratic country as USA.
==>>YUGOSLAVIA MORON ==>> USA DOES NOT CLAIM SOMEBODY ELSE HISTORY&DOES NOT IMPOSE TERRITORIAL CLAIMS!BASED ON YUGOSLAVIAN COMMUNIST LIES&PROPAGANDA!
if you are big gipsy greek as you say and as you are filing than why you dont live in your FARS?- Former republic of sparta

remember that you have been ocupate our teritory and still our history.
aleksandar makedonski

Skopje, Macedonia

#20 Jun 3, 2013
FARS- Former republic of sparta
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