3 Wis. Dems Say They'll Propose Gun-Control Bills

Dec 18, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WMTV Madison

In the wake of the Connecticut school shooting, three Wisconsin Democrats say they'll propose a trio of gun-control bills.

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Milw TaXpayer

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Did you notice the sale of 3 items just jumped with that information.
1.) all ammo
2.) all hi-cap magazines
3.) all "black" rifles.

Once again they will try to restrict the liberty of the lawful citizen.
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How is gun control restricting your liberty? I can't believe in the wake of what just happened, not to mention the rash of shootings that have been happening for years now, that you would be anything but supportive of gun control laws. People like you make me sick, you're beyond selfish & insensitive.
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wedjat wrote:
How is gun control restricting your liberty? I can't believe in the wake of what just happened, not to mention the rash of shootings that have been happening for years now, that you would be anything but supportive of gun control laws. People like you make me sick, you're beyond selfish & insensitive.
Many are not as reactionary as the anit gun crowd and realize it is the individual that commits crime and heinious acts like these shootings.

Talk about selfish and insensitive, you are being the same twards those who oppose your opinion. Same for the rest of anti gun crowd. They're basically saying you are with us or against us with no middle ground.
wedjat

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NOTthechildren wrote:
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Many are not as reactionary as the anit gun crowd and realize it is the individual that commits crime and heinious acts like these shootings.
Talk about selfish and insensitive, you are being the same twards those who oppose your opinion. Same for the rest of anti gun crowd. They're basically saying you are with us or against us with no middle ground.
Perhaps a logical explanation behind the resistance would be an excellent idea, no? I never get that. And like I said, I find it incredibly insensitive to have such a callous attitude towards guns after all of this BS that has been happening. I'm sure a much different tone would be had by these people if something tragic like this happened to them personally.
Dan USA

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The sick American fixation on guns has to be curbed. And screw you people, screeching about your liberties. No citizen has any need for a high power automatic weapon. And if you you're worried about a foreign invasion, the State National Guard will arm you if need be.
Cold Gate

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My kids are far more important than a "Banana Clip". They complain not to be too hasty in making change. We can’t afford to have one more child cut down by a nut with a gun. This went WAY too deep!
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The whole purpose for citizens to have guns is to protect us from our own government,first and foremost.Why would we give up that right to turn around and depend on them for any weaponry? It's not the guns,it's the simpletons who use them.Taking away everybody's weapon won't guarantee safety.People killed each other long before guns were invented and that will continue whether or not guns are owned by citizens.Look at the drug problem in this country.Obviously they're illegal but it's an epidemic in the US.Denying the average citizen the right to defend themselves is making it easier for the people who don't care about the laws to terrorize society.
Cold Gate

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Alpha33 wrote:
The whole purpose for citizens to have guns is to protect us from our own government,first and foremost.Why would we give up that right to turn around and depend on them for any weaponry? It's not the guns,it's the simpletons who use them.Taking away everybody's weapon won't guarantee safety.People killed each other long before guns were invented and that will continue whether or not guns are owned by citizens.Look at the drug problem in this country.Obviously they're illegal but it's an epidemic in the US.Denying the average citizen the right to defend themselves is making it easier for the people who don't care about the laws to terrorize society.
Since when are 7yr old children a threat? You gun freaks need to stop living in constant fear, and feeling the need to walk around armed all the time. You want to play shoot-em-up all the time, move to Somalia. We’ve been civilized for a long time, stop trying to reverse that.
Oblama needs to go!!

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wedjat wrote:
How is gun control restricting your liberty? I can't believe in the wake of what just happened, not to mention the rash of shootings that have been happening for years now, that you would be anything but supportive of gun control laws. People like you make me sick, you're beyond selfish & insensitive.
Should we ban cars because more people die in drunk driving accidents than by guns.
Should we ban McDonalds because more people die from heart disease than all other causes combined?
It's just the lefts topic of choice and whenever given the chance they jump to criticize guns. It's not the guns that kill its the mentally unstable people that pull the trigger. Once again the left trying to fix things by blaming an inanimate object instead of the people. Take responsibilities for your actions we need more people to do that instead of all of this politically correct feel good bs. Just because you are louder about something does not mean you care more about it.
Oblama needs to go!!

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Look at almost every government that has disarmed it's citizens and you will find mass killings of innocent civilians.
All of you anti gun nuts should make sure if you are ever held up at a bank or store or anywhere for that matter to make sure and point out to the person that may save your life by using their legally carried weapon to not save your life and let the criminal shoot you in the head.

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[QUOTE who="Oblama needs to go!!"]<quoted text>
Should we ban cars because more people die in drunk driving accidents than by guns.
Should we ban McDonalds because more people die from heart disease than all other causes combined?
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No we should not because the things you mention aren't designed to kill but the bushmaster is.

Theres no practical use for military (fully automatic ie;M16) or close to military style (semi-auto ie; AR15) arms in a modern, urban,NON-MILITARY setting.
Milw TaXpayer

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cnw95 wrote:
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No we should not because the things you mention aren't designed to kill but the bushmaster is.
Theres no practical use for military (fully automatic ie;M16) or close to military style (semi-auto ie; AR15) arms in a modern, urban,NON-MILITARY setting.
So because YOU don't like guns no one should have them, even if it is a 2nd Amemdment right.

I own a Ruger mini-14, wood stock, blued metal, scoped and it shoots exactly the same as a military style semi-auto AR type. I use this weapon as a target (sport) rifle at 100, 200, 300yrds.
It looks nothing like an AR type weapon yet it does exactly the same thing, semi-auto,.223 cal, it can use high capacity magazines just like the AR type. You would not be able to tell the difference between it and any other hunting rifle. Yet internally it is almost the same weapon so you would ban one and not the other??
How many Gun Bans have worked in the past?.......NONE!
High capacity magazines have been banned in the past...did that work?......Nope.

Banning things from a law abiding citizen will NEVER work, the crazy's and the criminal don't give 2 hoots in hell about laws, never did and never will. So how does restricting a RIGHT of us help the situation?
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Cold Gate wrote:
<quoted text> Since when are 7yr old children a threat?
Who said they were?
Cold Gate wrote:
You gun freaks need to stop living in constant fear, and feeling the need to walk around armed all the time.
You hanky-twisting bedwetters need to come to grips with rights and liberties and quit feeling the need to tell others how they can or can't exercise rights.
Cold Gate wrote:
You want to play shoot-em-up all the time, move to Somalia.
You want no guns in the hands of the citizens , move to North Korea.
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We’ve been civilized for a long time, stop trying to reverse that.
Start acting like you're civilized. For you, it WOULD be an act.
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Dan USA wrote:
The sick American fixation on guns has to be curbed.
Yup. That's all you gun control goons can think of.
Dan USA wrote:
And screw you people, screeching about your liberties.
No, screw YOU gutless frustrated control freaks!
Dan USA wrote:
No citizen has any need for a high power automatic weapon.
Who are you to decide what someone needs? What do YOU know about automatic weapons?
Dan USA wrote:
And if you you're worried about a foreign invasion, the State National Guard will arm you if need be.
No they won't. You really are a clueless putz.
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cnw95 wrote:
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No we should not because the things you mention aren't designed to kill but the bushmaster is.
Theres no practical use for military (fully automatic ie;M16)...
Really? Americans have owned them for years. When was the last time one of those was used in a shooting?
And what is in the inherent design of a Bushmaster that makes it designed to kill but is lacking in other guns?
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or close to military style (semi-auto ie; AR15) arms in a modern, urban,NON-MILITARY setting.
Close to? You mean ugly black guns? Too bad your ignorance of guns blinds you. There are many hunting rounds out there more powerful than what the AR-15 fires.
Oblama needs to go!!

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cnw95 wrote:
[QUOTE who="Oblama needs to go!!"]<quoted text>
Should we ban cars because more people die in drunk driving accidents than by guns.
Should we ban McDonalds because more people die from heart disease than all other causes combined?
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No we should not because the things you mention aren't designed to kill but the bushmaster is.

Theres no practical use for military (fully automatic ie;M16) or close to military style (semi-auto ie; AR15) arms in a modern, urban,NON-MILITARY setting.
Fully automatic weapons are illegal for one. Guns if used for legal practices such as hunting and target practice aren't designed to kill people either. A car used by a drunk driver becomes a weapon but it wasn't designed to kill either. You could kill someone with dental floss if that's your intention as well. Face it its the whacko people that do these mass killings not the weapon of choice.

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Besara wrote:
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Really? Americans have owned them for years. When was the last time one of those was used in a shooting?
And what is in the inherent design of a Bushmaster that makes it designed to kill but is lacking in other guns?
<quoted text>Close to? You mean ugly black guns? Too bad your ignorance of guns blinds you. There are many hunting rounds out there more powerful than what the AR-15 fires.
These types of firearms have ALWAYS been a concern. From the introduction of the tommygun all the way up to today and the debate over the AR15 and everything in between.

And the reason they have caused concern is because of the amount of damage they can inflict.

Your comments assume that a firearm is a firearm is a firearm and that is clearly and legally not the case.

If this were true,you wouldn't be making a fuss over a looming ban of this particular firearm.

The law has a definition of what an assault weapon is.

Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', is not required for classification as an assault weapon; merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant such classification as an assault weapon.

There is a CLEAR difference between an AR15 and say a .25 saturday night special.

Both have the capacity to inflict mortal wounds but it is obvious to even a firearm layperson that the demographics of the AR15 make it much more EFFICIENT at killing than the .25 saturday night special.

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[QUOTE who="Oblama needs to go!!"]<quoted text>
Fully automatic weapons are illegal for one. Guns if used for legal practices such as hunting and target practice aren't designed to kill people either. A car used by a drunk driver becomes a weapon but it wasn't designed to kill either. You could kill someone with dental floss if that's your intention as well. Face it its the whacko people that do these mass killings not the weapon of choice.[/QUOTE]

I do agree with part of your comments.

Yes,practically anything can be turned into a weapon. And yes,the crazy folks are the MAIN problem when it comes to these mass killings.

But these crazy mass killers have yet to use dental floss to kill many.

Too bad that POS lanza didn't use dental floss.

And as a side note,i was in the army stationed at ft knox,home of armor, and had many opportunities firing the M16 and actually was a little jealous of the tankers because they got to fire the tanks and the small caliber weapons on them like the .50 cal.

During my tour doing this, i gained a VERY,VERY,healthy respect for firearms and the damage they can inflict.

I've also seen GSWs as a fireman here in milwaukee. It was mostly small arms wounds and mostly on avg sized adults.

I could not imagine what MULTIPLE GSW's look like on the bodily frame of a 1st grader.

I wish it was easier to spot these nut jobs so as to avert these types of gut wrenching tragedies.

Whatever the solution,we can't allow this to happen again.
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As many of you know, and something that some calling for gun bans do not, If you were a disturbed person you could take a bag of ammo and a scoped ordinary deer rifle;you could find yourself a position of cover and raise holy hell with a death count as much or more than most any school shooting. This is fact! So how do you define which guns are "bad" and which are acceptable?
The question is rhetorical.
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wedjat wrote:
How is gun control restricting your liberty? I can't believe in the wake of what just happened, not to mention the rash of shootings that have been happening for years now, that you would be anything but supportive of gun control laws. People like you make me sick, you're beyond selfish & insensitive.
Gun control bans and schemes will be about as effective as the current war on drugs, it won’t work either. They need to arm reliable and trained school faculty members to be able to properly respond to an active shooter on school grounds. Visualize a different outcome had someone been able to respond to the shooters at any site of these Gun Free Killing Zones.

I practice strict gun control by using two hands while shooting…

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