Only on FOX6: Owner of animals seized...

Only on FOX6: Owner of animals seized by Milwaukee Police speaks out

There are 33 comments on the Fox6 story from May 18, 2010, titled Only on FOX6: Owner of animals seized by Milwaukee Police speaks out. In it, Fox6 reports that:

The owner of hundreds of reptiles seized by Milwaukee police in south side house last week speaks exclusively to FOX6.

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Melanie

Eau Claire, WI

#1 May 18, 2010
You know he's so worried about the treatment and the stress put on the animals, but what about the stress put on neighbors who were wondering day after day what was going on in that house and building. The smell when you would walk in the alley past the building was ridiculous. Those animals are probably now receiving better care then being cooped up in tubs in a basement. Shame on you Terry Cullen.
pettman1

United States

#2 May 18, 2010
Yep Melanie I bet YOU personally smelled it from your Cali location. And I bet you know all sorts of things about animal conservation and preservation of the rare and endangerd. I have personally worked with Terry and Jane what great knowledgable people and I promise when the smoke clears we will find a set up. Too bad the dogs had to die what great loyal companions they were. And lets worry about drug houses and gangs not a man whos knkowledge was world wide.
Donna

Omaha, NE

#3 May 18, 2010
It should be noted that plastic bins and horse troughs are appropriate housing for some species of reptiles--they are easy to keep clean, and provide an appropriate amount of space for the animals. Turtles are very messy animals, and could foul their water in a matter of days--a situation easily rectified with a simple cleaning.

The truth is, we don't know what was really in there, and I, too, am concerned for the welfare of the animals--left in the hands of an unspecified 'expert'. These types of animals have VERY specific care requirements, and being transported is risky for some of them, and stressful for all.

A well-intentioned person could easily place these animals into completely inappropriate housing for their species--perhaps believing they need 'more room', or better furnishings, etc, when what they really need is security, proper heat, and proper humidity.

Odors associated with keeping reptiles will generally be largely from feeder rodents (rats and mice bred for snake food)--hundreds of rats, even when cleaned weekly, DO produce quite a smell. As for rats being loose...I wonder if someone knocked over a rat rack, releasing the animals. There is so much we DON'T know. This individual is a highly regarded conservationist. I believe everyone should wait for the full story before passing judgement.
Calena

United States

#4 May 18, 2010
I actually met Terry a few times and he is a lying sack of CRAP. He knows full well what he is doing to all of his animals. His long time girlfriend (about 30 years) has had dozens of animals in her house, and so did my friend--another ex-girlfriend of Terry's. My friend had had dozens of snakes, tortoises, crocodiles, alligators, iguanas and even his beloved Tibetan Mastiffs. All I can say is that when I heard of a huge reptile bust, I knew it was Terry or one of his lackeys. I am just glad my friend got out and away from his clutches four or five years ago.
pettman1

United States

#5 May 18, 2010
Donna wrote:
It should be noted that plastic bins and horse troughs are appropriate housing for some species of reptiles--they are easy to keep clean, and provide an appropriate amount of space for the animals. Turtles are very messy animals, and could foul their water in a matter of days--a situation easily rectified with a simple cleaning.
The truth is, we don't know what was really in there, and I, too, am concerned for the welfare of the animals--left in the hands of an unspecified 'expert'. These types of animals have VERY specific care requirements, and being transported is risky for some of them, and stressful for all.
A well-intentioned person could easily place these animals into completely inappropriate housing for their species--perhaps believing they need 'more room', or better furnishings, etc, when what they really need is security, proper heat, and proper humidity.
Odors associated with keeping reptiles will generally be largely from feeder rodents (rats and mice bred for snake food)--hundreds of rats, even when cleaned weekly, DO produce quite a smell. As for rats being loose...I wonder if someone knocked over a rat rack, releasing the animals. There is so much we DON'T know. This individual is a highly regarded conservationist. I believe everyone should wait for the full story before passing judgement.
Well put and thank you Donna. From what I have heard it may have been somone dumping bags of frozen rodents on the floor that caused the described sceen, again too many details not being told. But most wouldnt make good news stories.
Incredulous in Texas

Palestine, TX

#6 May 18, 2010
I have been following this story and I have so many questions ... I know Terry Cullen to be a brilliant, though often controversial character. He is a crocodile conservationist who has tirelessly worked to benefit all species of crocodilians, particularly endangered ones. I have never known him to sell an animal. He has given permanent homes to crocodiles that were unwanted, deformed, or sick -- with no thought of ever being paid.

It has been a week now. What were the authorities really doing on his property? What was the incredible emergency that caused them to shoot his dogs while Jane was pleading for permission to safely secure them? Why is everything that has to do with this case so extreme? Who is in charge?

It is my understanding that Jane was held for days and then released on an enormous cash bond -- only to have charges against her dropped?????

All of Terry Cullen's properties were ransacked and damaged by authorities, his animals removed, and yet, there is no warrant out for his arrest? And now, a week after this crazy scenario began to play out, the authorities are just now reviewing criminal matters and collecting depositions?

I hope the depositions are being taken from the officials that shot the dogs and arrested Jane. How can they possibly justify their actions?

Is this the way justice is served in the United States of America? Or, is this just justice "Milwaukee Style?"

Myra, can you supply some of these answers?
Arrtfreak

United States

#7 May 19, 2010
What a shallow report - typical of Fox6. All the staff I imagine you put on this report can only come up with this shallow snippet.
Arrtfreak

United States

#8 May 19, 2010
"Milwaukee Style" has always been to shoot the dogs. To be fair, I've seen Milwaukee cops tolerate a barking dog on a crime scene, but I also know dog owners who lost their best (canine) friends to murderous trigger-happy macho swat-cops bent on drama and violence by the gun. This case did not in any way warrant the drama and violence that the MPD unleashed on such caring and well-meaning souls. Imagine the pride those officers feel for "winning!" Shame on them.
Peaches85

United States

#9 May 19, 2010
I knew the dogs and am very saddened to know that they will no longer be around.. Pogo and Kong were my two favorites out of the bunch.. It makes me sick to hear that the cops were bragging abpout how they killed the dogs.. there was no reason they had to lose their loves.. Jane was trying to get the dogs put away but the cops charged past her and killed them.. It's disgusting..
As far as Melanie from Cali- I have been in the house numerous times and tehre was no smell coming from the alley.. People should stop passing judgment unless you know what is ACTUALLY going on.. Terry and Jane would never do anything t hurt the animals.. it was their life and their passion..
D_ear

Franklin, WI

#10 May 19, 2010
The animals being cared for by the "expert" are in city garages.....animals that are tropical in nature and need temperatures appropriate to a tropical climate to stay healthy. Want to guess what the temperature inside a city garage are this time of year? These animals are not long for this world. As for the execution of the dogs, expect to find a line item in the plan for the raid.
Judy New Berlin

Milwaukee, WI

#11 May 19, 2010
WOW... What is Milwaukee going to do...keep all the reptiles in the cold/unheated city garage with no care until they are dead and then charge Terry with animal abuse and much more! And now that they removed them from 13th St. I'm sure it will be a better place to live...no more gangs...safer for children to play...It's just amazing what people can do when they all work together!Give the man back his reptiles you've made enough mistakes,you have bigger fish to fry...try that woman with trouble finding a proper bathroom for one!
D_Ear

Duluth, GA

#15 May 19, 2010
You're on the right track Judy. The plan seems to be keep making things up, skirt any legal process and stall until the animals are gone. Then charge Terry and Jane with, er, I'm sure they'll make up something...
Sammich

Oregon City, OR

#16 May 19, 2010
So...apparantly its okay for animal control to neglect and abuse animals, but if anyone else does it they get arrested (not that I believe Terry actually did). After reporting they found 30 foot 500 pound anacondas or whatever, how is anyone supposed to believe anything else they're "reporting"?

Troughs and plastic bins make excellent housing for reptiles. Many species of snake are thigmotactic and do better in a smaller enclosure where they can feel secure than a big wide open one.

Horse troughs are better than aquariums for housing larger lizards. They hold heat and humidity better and allow for more substrate depth for burrowing. Here's a horse trough being made into a reptile enclosure:
http://www.proexotics.com/faq_images/monitor_...
Save the animals

Racine, WI

#17 May 19, 2010
The works of Terry Cullen are remarkable and absolutely incredible! The man is not only extremely intelligent and dedicated to his passion for animals; he has a natural talent in caring for them. I remember going to the dog's birthday party at PetLicious - what fun, they all posed so perfectly with their party hats on! The dogs are very rare and the most gorgeous dogs I have ever seen. Time is ticking, anyone who is capable of saving the dogs and all the other animals, PLEASE HELP!
Save the animals

Racine, WI

#18 May 19, 2010
Our love and prayers to Terry and Jane for the traumatic events during the last week. The absurd harassment from the Milwaukee Police Department and MADACC is very disturbing. To think that the legal system can barge into someoneís house without true cause, kill animals and destroy their homes scares me. For the first time in my life, Iím truly afraid of the men and women in blue. To think Jane was willing to fully cooperate and the police decided they couldnít wait a few minutes. It seems like the raid and killing of the dogs was a fully planned endeavor.
Judy New Berlin

Milwaukee, WI

#19 May 19, 2010
If the concern is truly the animals, why not let Terry and his crew go in and clean and maintain the critters until they are returned. A reptile gets use to a caregiver and will stay calm and be less agressive in a new suroundings...thus less will parish due to this mess! Also, Terry can provide the food, it will cost the City of Milwaukee nothing...not that them planned to feed them anyway! And how did Racine get rights to remove the gators, they are not part of Milwaukee County,also,what makes the gators more important than the rest of the creatures,or is it that the gators are the only reptiles Racine Zoo wants to get their hands on to keep!I feel so sorry for the animals,you just know they are locked up and forgotten after all Milwaukee wouldn't want the liability if someone was injured trying to care for them!There are lots of people willing to help, myself for one...just give me a hose and running water and I'll take care of the rest!One more thing...I won't even have to shot anything to feel safe...why you may ask...I'm well balanced that's why!
Proud to be from Philly

Jersey City, NJ

#20 May 19, 2010
What is going on in Milwaukee? Terry Cullen has been a frontline soldier in the battle for endangered wildlife in all corners of the globe, and this is what he gets in AMERICA? Who takes accountability; responsibilty? The mayor? Where are you, Your Honor?
I've never seen the uniforms worn by LE in Milwaukee; do they have SS on the lapels?
Justin Copp

United States

#21 May 19, 2010
I suggest that everyone contact the mayor and demand some answers. There is no excuse for any of the actions that were taken during this investigation. The people responsible for shooting the dogs need to be held accountable, the seized animals need to be kept in proper conditions, and there needs to be answers as to why such extreme measures were taken against a man who has not been charged with any crime.
Judy New Berlin

Milwaukee, WI

#23 May 20, 2010
Justin you are right....we all need answers!Some of the things I'm reading in our local papers just sound so off base. And if the animals where so bad off lets get that taken care of and figure out how this all happened. I do understand how ones love of creatures sometimes gets the best of them and when you have one to many, you wake up and say "what the hell did I do" I myself spend all day on my pets,and could always use help, but I never travel because my first duty is to take care of the animals...Maybe Terry enjoyed the attention more than he liked the work!He is a smart man,but to leave a woman in charge of such large reptiles,he should have known this would someday happen!You need a crew working together to take care of so many animals.Thus....we have Zoo's! The real problem was in the way this all came down, and they really didn't need to shot the dogs! Hope we find out the real truth in the coming weeks!
LauraP

Portsmouth, VA

#24 May 20, 2010
this is outrageous... WE WANT ANSWERS!!

It is becoming a nation wide fad within the police force to shoot people's dogs for no apparent reason. self defense against the dog in these situations has no place! Those officers should be deeply ashamed of theirselves.

first in Detroit SWAT raids an innocent man's home and kills his dog, then again in Detroit police raid a home and shoot a 7 year old girl!! the Police in this nation have severe trigger fingers... cut them off or teach them to use alternate ways of subduing someone/animals...

this is inexcusable...

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