U.S. gun website sued for alleged ties to slayings

There are 164 comments on the Reuters story from Dec 12, 2012, titled U.S. gun website sued for alleged ties to slayings. In it, Reuters reports that:

A prominent U.S. gun control group on Wednesday sued a gun auction website it says is linked to a mass shooting at a Wisconsin spa in October and the stalker slaying of a woman near Chicago in 2011.

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#132 Dec 21, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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How do you give criminal background checks for those seeking to own firearms by stealing them from someone else or through the black market? I haven't the statistics but I bet over 90% of firearms owned by citizens of the fair city of Detroit are stolen,
You raise a good point (except for that Detroit nonsense). I think it would be helpful to penalize illegal gun sales with a life sentence. That might help to discourage it. Also, using underage kids as go-betweens should be similarly treated.

As for your black market comment, my above suggestion would apply, as well as to sales at gun shows to just about anyone, sales via the internet, etc.

I recognize that there is no panacea, but anything to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally disturbed should be considered.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#133 Dec 21, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>You raise a good point (except for that Detroit nonsense). I think it would be helpful to penalize illegal gun sales with a life sentence. That might help to discourage it. Also, using underage kids as go-betweens should be similarly treated.
As for your black market comment, my above suggestion would apply, as well as to sales at gun shows to just about anyone, sales via the internet, etc.
I recognize that there is no panacea, but anything to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally disturbed should be considered.
Detroit
It's been named America's most dangerous city four years running by Forbes Magazine, recording 375 homicides so far this year, compared to 344 for the whole of 2011. Assaults with guns have also risen steadily over the past few years; 532 armed crimes were logged for every 100,000 residents in 2010, according to FBI statistics.
zipp

Menomonie, WI

#134 Dec 21, 2012
As many of you know, and something that those calling for gun bans do not, If you were a disturbed person, you could take a bag of ammo and a scoped ordinary deer rifle;you could find yourself a position of cover and raise holy hell with a death count as much or more than most any school shooting. This is fact! So how do you define which guns are "bad" and which are acceptable?
The question is rhetorical.

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#135 Dec 21, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>You raise a good point (except for that Detroit nonsense). I think it would be helpful to penalize illegal gun sales with a life sentence. That might help to discourage it. Also, using underage kids as go-betweens should be similarly treated.
As for your black market comment, my above suggestion would apply, as well as to sales at gun shows to just about anyone, sales via the internet, etc.
I recognize that there is no panacea, but anything to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally disturbed should be considered.
Anything , seems to me you could simply have their hands removed.

That would qualify as "anything".

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#136 Dec 21, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Detroit
It's been named America's most dangerous city four years running by Forbes Magazine, recording 375 homicides so far this year, compared to 344 for the whole of 2011. Assaults with guns have also risen steadily over the past few years; 532 armed crimes were logged for every 100,000 residents in 2010, according to FBI statistics.
I know Detroit is rough. I just argued with your 90% illegal gun exaggeration. Again, if you make illegal gun trafficking a life sentence, I think you can reduce the sales and the violence.

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#138 Dec 22, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I know Detroit is rough. I just argued with your 90% illegal gun exaggeration. Again, if you make illegal gun trafficking a life sentence, I think you can reduce the sales and the violence.
By your logic we should simply make all crime a life sentence.

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#139 Dec 22, 2012
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>By your logic we should simply make all crime a life sentence.
Maybe by your logic, not mine. But some of your drooler friends seem to support you.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#140 Dec 24, 2012
cnw95 wrote:
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Your interpretation of the 2nd amendment is accurate, so are you saying that ANY regulation no matter how "minor" is unconstitutional???
If, as you say, my interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is accurate...then how would you answer your question...?
Jenny

Cedarburg, WI

#141 Dec 24, 2012
Marauder wrote:
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If, as you say, my interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is accurate...then how would you answer your question...?
If, you say, my non-interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is inaccurate...then how would you answer your question...? Huh?
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#142 Dec 24, 2012
Jenny wrote:
<quoted text> If, you say, my non-interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is inaccurate...then how would you answer your question...? Huh?
I don't know what your interpretation is as you have not stated it...so you ask a question to which an answer can not be given.

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Milwaukee, WI

#144 Dec 24, 2012
Marauder wrote:
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If, as you say, my interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is accurate...then how would you answer your question...?
I ask because there are NUMEROUS federal firearm regulations including, the national firearms act,Gun Control Act of 1968,Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act and a few others.

If our 2nd amendment rights are not to be infringed,aren't these regulations an INFRINGEMENT and thus unconstitutional???
Cat74

Barrington, IL

#145 Dec 24, 2012
The Supreme Court redefined the 2nd amendment a couple years ago, making most gun laws unconstitutional.

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#146 Dec 24, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
The Supreme Court redefined the 2nd amendment a couple years ago, making most gun laws unconstitutional.
The problem with the second amendment if that it can be defined and redefined ad nauseum, depending on the makeup of the Court.
This amendment is by no means clearly written. If it were, it wouldn't need redefining.
emergency

Rochester, MN

#147 Dec 24, 2012
au contraire wrote:
SHOCK: Democratic senator employed illegal immigrant who was registered sex offender...
Homeland Security Dept instructed federal agents not to arrest him until after Election Day...
those in power like this Obama are corrupt hypocrites who have no qualms about the authoritarian use of deadly force when it serves their needs. They just donít believe you, the individual, should ever have that option.
Cat74

Barrington, IL

#148 Dec 24, 2012
Yes, any one can redefine the 2nd amendment to their liking, but only the Supreme Court can make their definition the law.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#149 Dec 25, 2012
cnw95 wrote:
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I ask because there are NUMEROUS federal firearm regulations including, the national firearms act,Gun Control Act of 1968,Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act and a few others.
If our 2nd amendment rights are not to be infringed,aren't these regulations an INFRINGEMENT and thus unconstitutional???
Yes...many of them are and we just recently had a couple overturned by the USSC.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#150 Dec 25, 2012
Cat74 wrote:
The Supreme Court redefined the 2nd amendment a couple years ago, making most gun laws unconstitutional.
It wasn't "redefined"...for the first time it was interpreted in it's entirty. Previous courts had addressed bits and pieces in their decisions and those were addressed in the latest case.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#151 Dec 25, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>The problem with the second amendment if that it can be defined and redefined ad nauseum, depending on the makeup of the Court.
This amendment is by no means clearly written. If it were, it wouldn't need redefining.
Well once again...it wasn't "redefined"...and is written very clearly when read within the context of history and the definitions of the verbage used at the time. It's when people attempt to use current definitions to apply to it in order to twist its meaning into something that was not intended.

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#152 Dec 25, 2012
Marauder wrote:
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Well once again...it wasn't "redefined"...and is written very clearly when read within the context of history and the definitions of the verbage used at the time. It's when people attempt to use current definitions to apply to it in order to twist its meaning into something that was not intended.
What is modern language for "a well regulated militia"?

Since: Apr 11

Milwaukee, WI

#153 Dec 25, 2012
Marauder wrote:
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Well once again...it wasn't "redefined"...and is written very clearly when read within the context of history and the definitions of the verbage used at the time. It's when people attempt to use current definitions to apply to it in order to twist its meaning into something that was not intended.
If current definitions weren't used then the 2nd amendment would not cover the use of assault weapons because assault type weapons weren't around in 1789.

The constitution has to be considered a living document in order to be applied to current conditions.

The conservatives speak against this line of thinking and yet they use it to justify the fact that assault weapons are covered under the supreme law of the land.

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