Alleged Navy Yard Gunman Held Securit...

Alleged Navy Yard Gunman Held Security Clearance

There are 10 comments on the The Wall Street Journal story from Sep 16, 2013, titled Alleged Navy Yard Gunman Held Security Clearance. In it, The Wall Street Journal reports that:

The alleged Navy Yard gunman held a secret security clearance through his employer, The Experts, which had rehired him in July to work on a project at the Navy facility, according to company CEO Thomas Hoshko .

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sheepleloveroyal ty

Pottstown, PA

#2 Sep 17, 2013
A routine human resources background check should've discovered what was on his resume/in his background.

The security clearance check is to see if you are patriotic and/or can be turned or spy for another country. Unable to handle military life might indicate an applicant might go against the employer one day, not necessarily violently but if they disagree they might do something rash like release or sell secrets.

I hate to say it but with the business of government or the military industrial complex these background checks go on regularly with little or no problem. Snowden and Alexis might be the exceptions but the people with clearances is over a million. Doesn't mean there shouldn't be changes.

Also if they make things too stringent you'll have the ex criminal or mental patient crowd crying discrimination and/or employers might cry they can't find qualified employees in the US and bring in foreign nationals with work visas.

There are a lot of problems here including Hewlett Packard and their contractors. But surprisingly "business as usual" is conducted without a problem on a regular basis. This is an extreme exception. And infuriating & sad at the same time.

Since: Sep 08

Neon City Oh.

#3 Sep 17, 2013
Most of your civilian contractors are nothing but criminal gangs.

Since: Aug 12

Arnold, MO

#4 Sep 18, 2013
He practiced shooting a rifle days before but decided on buying a shotgun.
Was this another suicide by someone afraid to shoot them self?
sheepleloveroyal ty

Pottstown, PA

#5 Sep 18, 2013
Drake_Burrwood wrote:
He practiced shooting a rifle days before but decided on buying a shotgun.
Was this another suicide by someone afraid to shoot them self?
After hearing this Alexis guy said himself that he suffered from PSTD from helping rescue people on 9-11 I think he saw himself as a hero and patriotic. To him going down in a blaze of glory so to speak is absolutely the act a feline afraid to kill themselves. Maybe it is time to take the stigma off of suicide.

And again, I can't emphasize this enough a routine human resources background check much like those you get to work at Walmart should've picked up prior arrests. He had enough of them in different states to show a pattern. Most background paperwork makes you list every state you lived in. Now unless those arrests never lead to a court appearance which means his case never became public record he might have slipped by.

Also when you seek employment most HR people want a copy of your discharge. I'm wondering if the HR that hired him just wanted "the discharge" as one of many forms for his record. In other words she just read "discharge" but none of the details and checked it off as another step completed.

Then there is the Rhode Island incident where the police informed the Navy or contractor you have a "crazy" employee here. What happened there. Too many contractors and sub contractors prevented their report being processed?
hold on for the ride

Pittsburgh, PA

#6 Sep 19, 2013
fort hood, navy yard, AND, AND, it looks like politics has invaded the military, AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY...
stormy

Clarksburg, WV

#7 Sep 20, 2013
Not much has been said about 13 people getting
killed, but a whole lot was said about one killed
in Florida.. Getting to understand your news
picking what is important or not?

When will our own people wise up as to what they
want you to know? Like, never!

Since: Aug 12

Saint Louis, MO

#8 Sep 20, 2013
stormy wrote:
Not much has been said about 13 people getting
killed, but a whole lot was said about one killed
in Florida ... Like, never!
The NRA quietly worked for years to undo gun control policy that FBI statistics gave evidence of causing up to twice the deaths, and raising crime rates. What happened crime went down, gun involved murders went down, ownership as a percent went down.
Gun control proponents knew their ground was slipping to the world they dreamed of, so they planned a counter something bad with guns happens attack, shake the bushes, make a big noise and big stink.
But it didn't work to many made mistakes that showed how little they even knew of what was supposed to be their subject, tv ads that had glaring safety issues.. etc.

If it isn't going to lead to their magical world of butterflies and unicorns, why say anything. Me if I'm in a world with unicorns I'll start rolling dice not signing petitions.
hold on for the ride

Pittsburgh, PA

#9 Sep 21, 2013
SECURITY CLEARANCE?????? maybe the ship is sinking a little faster than detroit has.
hold on for the ride

Pittsburgh, PA

#10 Apr 2, 2014
fort hood, navy yard, AND, AND, it looks like politics has invaded the military, AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY.......... FORT HOOD AGAIN and not a mention of the ...... "MEDICATIONS" .......it appears that MEDS can be the smokin gun ,rarely mentioned by name....wonder if they are imported too???? like $29.95 per 1000
let me guess

Pittsburgh, PA

#11 Apr 9, 2014
????,ITS THE SIDE EFFECTS OF THEIR DRUGS??? plus their problem plus the politics ...... no doctor, no hospital ,no pharmacist or pharma manufacturer,and no politician law guy will say it.... MAYBE A LAWYER AT 50%, MIGHT... THERES MORE TO THE NATIONAL EPIDEMIC OF OVER THE TOP MASS CRIMES. WHEN POLITICS, EQUALITY, DRUGS GET BLENDED ,the formulary becomes LETHAL...schools ,military, social laws becom toxic too.

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