U.S. warship aground in Philippines h...

U.S. warship aground in Philippines had faulty map

There are 276 comments on the HeraldNet story from Jan 20, 2013, titled U.S. warship aground in Philippines had faulty map. In it, HeraldNet reports that:

MANILA, Philippines -- An inaccurate map that mislocated a marine sanctuary may have caused a U.S. Navy minesweeper to run aground on a coral reef in the Philippines this week, the Navy said Saturday All 79 officers and crew of the USS Guardian were taken off the ship for safety reasons after it struck the reef with its bow at 2 a.m. Thursday.

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Filmalay

Germany

#1 Jan 20, 2013
Do you think the U.S. minesweeper really run aground the Tubataha reef, accidentally? The reef is under the protection of the Department of National Defense and for sure they already mapped the whole area long before the minesweeper went there. No one really knows what the minesweeper is doing there, and why the ship positioned itself so as the ship won't move. And claimed the ship run aground? Gimme a break.
Martin Nuke

Makati, Philippines

#2 Jan 20, 2013
Coral Reefs is any captain's nightmare no ship wants to be on a coral reef it will damage the hull real bad.
amc

Quezon City, Philippines

#4 Jan 20, 2013
we can blame wal-mart for selling those damned chinese maps.
Concerned_

Germany

#5 Jan 21, 2013
amc wrote:
we can blame wal-mart for selling those damned chinese maps.
Yeah right. But then to rely on Chinese made maps doesn't make sense since we know China even sell pirated maps nowadays including the map of the West Philippine Sea drawn by Mao See Dung. Anyways, a ship has to anchor itself onto something especially if pulling something miles and miles long and needs to stretch it to obtain the desired level measured from the ocean floor. When that thing is in place and working, any movement of ships or vessels that passes through could be detected and monitored via installed gadgets at a distance. The community of seebees are on the sidelines talking about running out of cream supply.

Since: Apr 12

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#7 Jan 21, 2013
Blame it on GPS system from Wally World.
Don finally got his radar system in the Philippines.
Just put piers around boat and let coral grow back.
Read about some boat the US made a few years ago then sent off to the UK for salvage. Taxpayers spending too much today on party in DC, might as well give this boat for their radar defence.
Martin Nuke

Philippines

#8 Jan 21, 2013
Concerned_ wrote:
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Minesweepers hull is constructed so as to withstand shock pressures around it without damaging any outside part. It may withstand pressures that is double or triple its weight. That's why they call it minesweepers. Self inflicted grounding in a reef is like hitting a sponge, less the scratched paint on the affected part of the ship.
Its already flooded inside the Minesweeper so that means the hull has a hole it just didn't sink because of the coral reef the problem is how to salvage it and fuel and oil leaks may also do further damage to the reef if there is.
Balasubas

Glendora, CA

#10 Jan 21, 2013
the captain of the that ship should be court martialed for refusing to obey orders from the park rangers who warned him and his location. this is another american arrogance. US Navy should pay damages that incurred and costs of rehab if still possible.

Since: Apr 12

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#11 Jan 21, 2013
American Arrogance...LOL....Tell me who's gonna pay for damage going on in Bajo de Masinloc right now ?
Just off shore from La Union is u'r commie friends making a mess.
Go to any port like Batangas or all other places boats coming in and stuff floating in the water.
amc

Quezon City, Philippines

#12 Jan 21, 2013
Wang Dang wrote:
American Arrogance...LOL....Tell me who's gonna pay for damage going on in Bajo de Masinloc right now ?
Just off shore from La Union is u'r commie friends making a mess.
Go to any port like Batangas or all other places boats coming in and stuff floating in the water.
ohhh the irony huh?

they cant even spell UNESCO , but they know how to scream it.

years of chinese incursions into their splendid coral reefs to poison and dynamite them?
a century of abuse and destruction by the flips who always have cyanide and dynamite in their boats?

just give the whining motherfcukers their $1.50 and be done with them.
better yet leave them for the chinese to eat them.

theyll never be anything , but a red headed step child anyway and now they all have dyed red hair to go with the part.

im going out today and ask as many as i can if they can tell me what UNESCO is. theyve been watching it on tv for a week now , so maybe theyll remember the word.
amc

Quezon City, Philippines

#13 Jan 21, 2013
Martin Nuke wrote:
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Its already flooded inside the Minesweeper so that means the hull has a hole it just didn't sink because of the coral reef the problem is how to salvage it and fuel and oil leaks may also do further damage to the reef if there is.
"The mine countermeasures vessel, with a wooden hull sheathed in fiberglass, has been taking on water and moving on the reef"

?????????? ohhhh my goodness!!!!!!!

this does not bode well me thinks?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#14 Jan 21, 2013
Back in the days of Subic, the US was prepared for any emergency. Earthquakes, landslides, floods, and volcanos. Now the 7th is scattered elsewhere.
amc

Quezon City, Philippines

#15 Jan 21, 2013
Wang Dang wrote:
Back in the days of Subic, the US was prepared for any emergency. Earthquakes, landslides, floods, and volcanos. Now the 7th is scattered elsewhere.
the training is no longer the same.

back in the days this would have been a 24 hour issue and the ship would be recovered already.

now we are just waiting for the inevitable oil spill. flips will treat it as if its the exxon valdez.

funny how fate works huh? always asking for money, their ship has finally come in. if a gallon of oil hits the water its going to be millions for them.
churches all over the filipins are full of flips praying for that gallon of oil.

abandoning the ship? tsk tsk.
Sergio Bungol Davao City

Philippines

#16 Jan 21, 2013
Concerned_ wrote:
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Minesweepers hull is constructed so as to withstand shock pressures around it without damaging any outside part. It may withstand pressures that is double or triple its weight. That's why they call it minesweepers. Self inflicted grounding in a reef is like hitting a sponge, less the scratched paint on the affected part of the ship.
Martin Nuke is right about mine sweepers. The media ought to stop with "rubbin it in " when criticising the U S Navy for accidentally running aground. Any Captain can make an error like that without ill intentions. Media sounds like America is our enemy instead of an ally. Who the Hell is giving the idea that a small thing like this must not happen ?
amc

Quezon City, Philippines

#17 Jan 21, 2013
Sergio Bungol Davao City wrote:
<quoted text> Martin Nuke is right about mine sweepers. The media ought to stop with "rubbin it in " when criticising the U S Navy for accidentally running aground. Any Captain can make an error like that without ill intentions. Media sounds like America is our enemy instead of an ally. Who the Hell is giving the idea that a small thing like this must not happen ?
who is giving the idea(s)?

sen. lagarda, sen. chiz escudero, palawan gov. mitra, the fils communist party?

squeaking wheels in need of lubrication. grease.

Since: Apr 09

Makati, Philippines

#18 Jan 21, 2013
Wang Dang wrote:
Back in the days of Subic, the US was prepared for any emergency. Earthquakes, landslides, floods, and volcanos. Now the 7th is scattered elsewhere.
Back in the day we had rescue ships for this very purpose at Subic. Now their a few thousand miles away. Not so easy as before. The 7th fleet is ready at all time just because their not at the beacon call of the Philippines whenever they can't handle their catastrophes "every one" doesn't mean their not ready.

Sergio Bungol Davao City

Philippines

#19 Jan 22, 2013
SO MUCH FUZZ OVER A SMALL MATTER ,...WHAT IS THE BIG IDEA? Now that we need the U.S. to act as our protector from the Chinese presence around us, some "joker" OR SEVERAL OF THESE hypocrites make it look like Americans are invading the Philippines. Are these guys Pro-Chinese? Do the majority favor this stunt of trying to drive a wedge between our close friendship with America ? We would be better off without these bogus patriots creating unsavory remarks against the U.S.A. America is our friend and will remain as friends forever.
Sergio Bungol Davao City

Philippines

#20 Jan 22, 2013
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THESE FEW ANTI-AMERICAN comments sent by a few racist in our government, hAve developed a hatred for America because THEY HAVE BEEN DENIED ENTREE WAY BACK when relatives or friends were not permitted entry in to the United States by the Embassy here.

Since: Apr 09

Makati, Philippines

#21 Jan 22, 2013
amc wrote:
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the training is no longer the same.
back in the days this would have been a 24 hour issue and the ship would be recovered already.
now we are just waiting for the inevitable oil spill. flips will treat it as if its the exxon valdez.
funny how fate works huh? always asking for money, their ship has finally come in. if a gallon of oil hits the water its going to be millions for them.
churches all over the filipins are full of flips praying for that gallon of oil.
abandoning the ship? tsk tsk.
LOLOL!!!! You know they won't just abandon the ship. Every banca boat with a pair of pliers [Two Filipino Pilots] will be out there to strip it. LOL!!!

amc

Quezon City, Philippines

#22 Jan 22, 2013
Don the American wrote:
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LOLOL!!!! You know they won't just abandon the ship. Every banca boat with a pair of pliers [Two Filipino Pilots] will be out there to strip it. LOL!!!
that thing is guarded better neighbors sister. imm sorry they are taking so long to handle it.

guess theyre going to pump the fuel and oil out now. people dont realize theyve already spent a few million just preparing.

Since: Apr 12

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#23 Jan 22, 2013
Don the American wrote:
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LOLOL!!!! You know they won't just abandon the ship. Every banca boat with a pair of pliers [Two Filipino Pilots] will be out there to strip it. LOL!!!
Yea, too bad they stripped down everything left behind. Made me sick to see what they done to Wallace Air Station. Had a good radar system there, guess they thought a casino was more important. MAybe it's just me, but don't like people spending all their money hoping to beat "The House".

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