medical discharge/depression

medical discharge/depression

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lostforever

Camp Lejeune, NC

#1 Mar 8, 2009
For the past year i've had troubles with severe depression and anxiety. First off I have a great record in the military and good remarks all around. But when i was deployed last year I was hazed and harrassed continously. It got so bad it was to the point where i was removed from the platoon. I saw mental health while i was in iraq though i never told them i did have thought of suicide. I returned last fall and i have been trying to make a turn around. But no matter what i do Im always so depressed and full of anxiety. Due to what happened Ive become extremely resentful of marines and the marine corp. I tried being motivated when i got back but here i am several months later and still having problems coping with depression and anxiety. Because of these problems i have no friends and i have lost interest in all things. Its gotten so bad lately i have had thoughts of hurting myself in hopes it will help me escape the way i feel. Right now i am taking antidepressents and vallium to calm me down. Though my main question is will they give me a medical discharge for all this? Ive never been had a page 11 or njp. Im not a **** bag looking for an easy way out. and i'm not an asshole looking for a check. I just cant stand the day to day stresses with military life anymore. I just feel if i leave and am back home with my family who i am extremely close to i will eventually be ok even without the meds. I just dont know how to go about my situatuion properly. I do have a mental health appt on the 26 of march. I have not been seen by mental health since i left iraq. I just dont want to hear another ridiculous suck it up marine speech..i just want help!
Mike

Japan

#2 May 21, 2009
Hello Devil, I am going through a similar problem. Pleae email me asap. [email protected]

YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
Rod Wesson

Missoula, MT

#3 May 21, 2009
Hey, Lost for ever. I'm an ex-marine from the Vietnam era. This shit don't go away by itself. I dealt with avoidance for 40 years. After returning from Vietnam I became severely depressed. But I was a tough ass Marine. Everybody told me the same thing, "Get over it Man". Unfortunately it don't work like that. At the time there was no such thing as PTSD. You were either crazy or a whining pussy. For the last three years I've been involved in PTSD therapy at the V.A. Hospital. PTSD is a mental health disorder and it cannot be cured but it can be controlled. Talk to your doc's, don't wait 43 years like I did. I'm still haunted about Vietnam but the therapy helps. Hang in there buddy.
Kyle

Tampa, FL

#4 Feb 8, 2010
I would advise the same as above, I know I am a little late in answering this question. I have had the same issues but mine started occurring after separation. I'm honorable, had a good tour, one NJP in school, promoted meritoriously twice. But since I got out, have major problems sleeping, had horrible migraines for a few years, severe depression, have been on Lexipro, and a high dose muscle relaxer with that. I have yet to see the VA for anything after I was separated, but after reading here and talking to a few old Marine buddies, I'm heading to the VA ASAP. I was one always telling myself to suck it up, stop complaining, get over it...but it doesn't go away no matter what you do. It may seem less bothersome some days, but it always returns, and for it to affect my life, family and friends I'm not taking chances anymore.

Wish you the best
Semper Fi
ERIC THOMPSON

Charlotte, NC

#5 Feb 10, 2010
Rod Wesson wrote:
Hey, Lost for ever. I'm an ex-marine from the Vietnam era. This shit don't go away by itself. I dealt with avoidance for 40 years. After returning from Vietnam I became severely depressed. But I was a tough ass Marine. Everybody told me the same thing, "Get over it Man". Unfortunately it don't work like that. At the time there was no such thing as PTSD. You were either crazy or a whining pussy. For the last three years I've been involved in PTSD therapy at the V.A. Hospital. PTSD is a mental health disorder and it cannot be cured but it can be controlled. Talk to your doc's, don't wait 43 years like I did. I'm still haunted about Vietnam but the therapy helps. Hang in there buddy.
THANKS I STILL STRUGGLE WITH GUILT AND THOU SHALL NOT KILL ESPECIALLY CHILDREN HIT TWO BY MISTAKE IN IRAQ STILL HUNTS ME TO THIS DAY
eric thompson

Charlotte, NC

#6 Feb 12, 2010
Thanks for the email lostforever I am okay your ok sometime you got to bury the devil dog thinking or it can bury you ooh ra
Stacey

United States

#7 Dec 18, 2010
When you get discharged for a mental illness what type of discharge do you get and are you still considered a Marine? My son was discharged within a year of basic. He will not talk about it and I was just curious. I still think of him as a Marine and I am extremely proud of him. I have suffered from bipolar and depression sAll my life so I know how disabling it can be. I wish you all happier days.
WKR

Kansas City, MO

#8 Jan 6, 2011
My son is a marine -- he finds military life to be incredibly stressful and I have been searching for help for him. Take a look at TAT4Stress.com -- watch the videos -- looks like a very helpful treatment for PTSD and stress/anxiety. Harold McRae, the counselor on the bids, has been working with soldiers and vets for 30 years. He says TAT is unusual but it works great. All the best to all of you!
Scared MOM

Rogersville, AL

#9 Jul 12, 2011
Currently my son is a Marine and is having a horrible time with depression and anxiety, he has always loved the Marines but when he got to his DPS there was hazing in his baracks, which was not address, so now he is having issues and had even went UA a few times. He is not a slacker or has done well until now. He says he just wants out and now he is even talked about hurting himself. I have talked to his superiors and they dont think to take any of it serious, even when a 1st Sgt admitted to me that there was serious hazing going on but nothing done still. I am so concerned about my son and just want to help. What can I do? Advise please, he has completely shut down and I feel helpless
jb nas dallas

Beaumont, TX

#10 Aug 23, 2011
Stacey wrote:
When you get discharged for a mental illness what type of discharge do you get and are you still considered a Marine? My son was discharged within a year of basic. He will not talk about it and I was just curious. I still think of him as a Marine and I am extremely proud of him. I have suffered from bipolar and depression sAll my life so I know how disabling it can be. I wish you all happier days.
i dont no i wasw raped on active duty ,found a sailor to tried to kill his self (blood,etc.) apparentaly if you werent raped in a combat theatre the va doesnt think its as traumatic, was told at kansa city mental by a young woman that it shouldnt be traumatic because the sailor didnt die!! i chewed som man out in the hall and asked him where they are getting thisw impression!!! are they taught that by va or is there some type of reward system for keeping compensation claims denied or if this traumatized vets stay away from the va and doing god knows what damage to their family or self because they refuse to go back and be treated like they are retarted. does this woman in mental health get bonuses or promoted for this type of behavior because she quote healed the persons ptsd issues!!!
jb nas dallas

Beaumont, TX

#11 Aug 23, 2011
Kyle wrote:
I would advise the same as above, I know I am a little late in answering this question. I have had the same issues but mine started occurring after separation. I'm honorable, had a good tour, one NJP in school, promoted meritoriously twice. But since I got out, have major problems sleeping, had horrible migraines for a few years, severe depression, have been on Lexipro, and a high dose muscle relaxer with that. I have yet to see the VA for anything after I was separated, but after reading here and talking to a few old Marine buddies, I'm heading to the VA ASAP. I was one always telling myself to suck it up, stop complaining, get over it...but it doesn't go away no matter what you do. It may seem less bothersome some days, but it always returns, and for it to affect my life, family and friends I'm not taking chances anymore.
Wish you the best
Semper Fi
becareful of lexpro some people it helps, my mother in law kept wanting to jump off a balcony, get in a car and drive and pick up the person she saw along the road even though she was blind from a stroke, if you have high blood pressure take the blood pressure meds, she didnt said she didnt need anything, etc.,now she blind.
jb nas dallas

Beaumont, TX

#12 Aug 23, 2011
Stacey wrote:
When you get discharged for a mental illness what type of discharge do you get and are you still considered a Marine? My son was discharged within a year of basic. He will not talk about it and I was just curious. I still think of him as a Marine and I am extremely proud of him. I have suffered from bipolar and depression sAll my life so I know how disabling it can be. I wish you all happier days.
YES YOUR SON WILL STILL BE A MARINE!!! HE EARNED THE TITLE, IT WASNT GIVEN TO HIM AND HE DIDNT BUY IT11 semper fi to your marine my prayers will be with you and him, marines take care of marines to the best of their ability, i cant be where you or he is, but i can pray for you and yours !!! "SEMPER FI"
so-lost

Pensacola, FL

#13 Mar 7, 2012
I'v been in the marines for about 8 months now. I was getting very depressed and thinking about suicide for a while and a friend to me to get help. Well i was told i have "mild depression" and am getting seen once every couple weeks. i still think about suicide, went from being a nice person to a person with a lot of anger towards most people around me, don't have much of a appetite and have abnormal sleeping habits. I cant stand living everyday knowing i made the biggest mistake of my life.
cm mrmr

San Diego, CA

#14 Apr 12, 2012
so-lost wrote:
I'v been in the marines for about 8 months now. I was getting very depressed and thinking about suicide for a while and a friend to me to get help. Well i was told i have "mild depression" and am getting seen once every couple weeks. i still think about suicide, went from being a nice person to a person with a lot of anger towards most people around me, don't have much of a appetite and have abnormal sleeping habits. I cant stand living everyday knowing i made the biggest mistake of my life.
So-Lost,

Definitely should be seeing someone for this. I have been in for 8 years and have had a few of my guys with some issues. I also had issues during my first couple years. If you command is not willing to assist you, I would be willing to assist you. Military One Source is an amazing resource. Good luck and trust me things get easier.
MA MOM

Haverhill, MA

#15 May 20, 2012
cm mrmr wrote:
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So-Lost,
Definitely should be seeing someone for this. I have been in for 8 years and have had a few of my guys with some issues. I also had issues during my first couple years. If you command is not willing to assist you, I would be willing to assist you. Military One Source is an amazing resource. Good luck and trust me things get easier.
My son sounds exactly like So-Lost - he is at 29 - he is in PAD and has had his discharge class - my question is how long will it take for him to get his 5 day discharge letter. Another question is do they give these guys meds to help them with the depression while they are waiting? He is falling apart and has started bad habits that will take alot to repair.
I have heard it is really bad to contact his CO's - they just make it worse is this true.
Any info would be appreciated.
MA MOM

Haverhill, MA

#16 May 22, 2012
Please -
cm mrmr - please write back
I could use your advice
thanks
cm mrmr

San Diego, CA

#17 May 22, 2012
MA MOM,

Not sure about the 5 day discharge letter. The answer to the Med question is typically yes. I was prescribed multiple medications (some of them did not work right with me) when I was diagnosed. I have not taken them for a long time but in general Medical is pretty good about taking care of situations like that. On the CO note I would not say its necessarily bad BUT it does in a way make the Unit look bad as a whole. There is a chain that should be followed. For Example: NCO Rank (Mentorship Program, SNCO, Officer in Charge, ETC ETC) If the CO is contacted before anyone in the chain knows it is kind of like a slap in the face to the senior enlisted in the unit. The CO always has an open door for issues like this but senior leadership should be sought out prior. If the senior leadership is not helping then most definitely contact the CO and he would deal with those issues. Depression/Suicide is a huge deal in the Marine Corps and the DoD as a whole. These situation should not be taken lightly and any Marine/Sailor/Soldier deserves the opportunity for help. All branches of the Military have different programs. Marine One Source, Chaplain, etc.

My advice to you is contact one of his SNCO's and address the issue. If that does not work move up the chain. Give the unit a chance for small unit leadership before bringing it up to a high level. Let the SNCO know the urgency so the proper steps can be taken. You do not want to make your son feel like an outcast or like he is being attacked. Friendly approaches work well and definitely helps if someone can relate to the experience.

Hope this help.
MA MOM wrote:
<quoted text>
My son sounds exactly like So-Lost - he is at 29 - he is in PAD and has had his discharge class - my question is how long will it take for him to get his 5 day discharge letter. Another question is do they give these guys meds to help them with the depression while they are waiting? He is falling apart and has started bad habits that will take alot to repair.
I have heard it is really bad to contact his CO's - they just make it worse is this true.
Any info would be appreciated.
MA MOM

Haverhill, MA

#18 May 24, 2012
cm mrmr wrote:
MA MOM,
Not sure about the 5 day discharge letter. The answer to the Med question is typically yes. I was prescribed multiple medications (some of them did not work right with me) when I was diagnosed. I have not taken them for a long time but in general Medical is pretty good about taking care of situations like that. On the CO note I would not say its necessarily bad BUT it does in a way make the Unit look bad as a whole. There is a chain that should be followed. For Example: NCO Rank (Mentorship Program, SNCO, Officer in Charge, ETC ETC) If the CO is contacted before anyone in the chain knows it is kind of like a slap in the face to the senior enlisted in the unit. The CO always has an open door for issues like this but senior leadership should be sought out prior. If the senior leadership is not helping then most definitely contact the CO and he would deal with those issues. Depression/Suicide is a huge deal in the Marine Corps and the DoD as a whole. These situation should not be taken lightly and any Marine/Sailor/Soldier deserves the opportunity for help. All branches of the Military have different programs. Marine One Source, Chaplain, etc.
My advice to you is contact one of his SNCO's and address the issue. If that does not work move up the chain. Give the unit a chance for small unit leadership before bringing it up to a high level. Let the SNCO know the urgency so the proper steps can be taken. You do not want to make your son feel like an outcast or like he is being attacked. Friendly approaches work well and definitely helps if someone can relate to the experience.
Hope this help.
<quoted text>
please email me - so I can explain more and how I should addresss this letter - [email protected]

Thank you for responding
dushay

Westmont, IL

#19 Aug 19, 2012
My son entered the Marines boot camp July 23,2012. I want to know how long is the separation process because I was given an 72hour window with very little information.So far my son hasn't been returned to me. My son is being discharged for depression. My first call for him being discharged was like July 25th 2012 then a couple if days later he called saying he will continue training. The next call came Like August 13th 2012 like I said a 72hour window with me sitting and waiting no calls or nothing and the bad part they only can talk about 2minutes to tell you they are being discharged. He is my only son and I am worried wondering what's going on. Wondering if someone is mistreating him and not knowing how this 18 year old will get home will it be on plane,train,bus, how? He just turned 18 in March he has never gone anywhere but to Marine PT and to school of course otherwise my son is a homebody. Does anyone know the procedures for discharge? I'm so worried! Thank you!
Debi

Haverhill, MA

#20 Aug 20, 2012
dushay wrote:
My son entered the Marines boot camp July 23,2012. I want to know how long is the separation process because I was given an 72hour window with very little information.So far my son hasn't been returned to me. My son is being discharged for depression. My first call for him being discharged was like July 25th 2012 then a couple if days later he called saying he will continue training. The next call came Like August 13th 2012 like I said a 72hour window with me sitting and waiting no calls or nothing and the bad part they only can talk about 2minutes to tell you they are being discharged. He is my only son and I am worried wondering what's going on. Wondering if someone is mistreating him and not knowing how this 18 year old will get home will it be on plane,train,bus, how? He just turned 18 in March he has never gone anywhere but to Marine PT and to school of course otherwise my son is a homebody. Does anyone know the procedures for discharge? I'm so worried! Thank you!
email me [email protected] - put marine discharge in subject

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