The system denied an Army veteran wit...

The system denied an Army veteran with PTSD the mental health...

There are 10 comments on the www.stripes.com story from Aug 18, 2011, titled The system denied an Army veteran with PTSD the mental health.... In it, www.stripes.com reports that:

'm Robert Anthony Quinones, but my friends call me Q," the former Army sergeant told the ER medic as he pointed a 9 mm handgun at the medic's head.

And as new troops come home with medical problems more and more are going to be turned away from medical help to awards of being service connected...... How many medical staff will be hurt?

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Since: Dec 09

Choctaw, OK

#1 Aug 18, 2011
Well first they are luck they are alive many of them on this stand off!

2nd the services ALL of them delay medical care - paper work is lost - paper work never signed off -
Medical reports filled out wrong - 201 file missing or still in there old unit over seas or ????

With ALL the troops coming home each month and thousands by Dec. 2011 the VA and 99% of ALL Hospitals will be full to over filled and little help to go around.
Staff are at the breaking point now in most VA hospitals and NOW in a few months we will dump more men and women on the staff of VA workers who can not cope with what is going on NOW with past Vets but they must and must be ready for over one hundred thousand more troops who will be here demanding care to houseing to jobs!

I say more men with guns will be running to VA centers demanding help!

I see it coming more and more each time I go do my medical appointments younger men looking for help and care from the VA and being told there is a waiting time and back log.

Does not go over well trust me as it's going to be like Vietnam all over again to get help and care when they dumped veterans from the army back in the states over three hundred thousand in need of jobs housing and medical care and some got care and most did not!

It's not going to be pretty in the next few months come our men home this Dec 2011:
HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#2 Aug 18, 2011
Brain Stains: Traumatic therapies can have long-lasting effects on mental health

http://mnemosynosis.livejournal.com/12980.htm...

A wave of nausea washed over Sheri J. Storm when she opened the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on a February morning a decade ago and saw the headline:“Malpractice lawsuit: Plaintiff tells horror of memories. Woman emotionally testifies that psychiatrist planted false recollections.” The woman in the article shared a lot with Storm—the same psychiatrist, the same memories, the same diagnosis of multiple personality disorder. At that moment, Storm suddenly realized that her own illness and 200-plus personalities, though painfully real to her, were nothing more than a figment of her imagination—created by her trusted therapist, Kenneth Olson.


Storm initially sought treatment from Olson because of insomnia and anxiety associated with divorce proceedings and a new career in radio advertising. She had hoped for an antidepressant prescription or a few relaxation techniques. But after enduring hypnosis sessions, psychotropic medications and mental-ward hospitalizations, Storm had much more to worry about than stress. She had “remembered” being sexually abused by her father at the age of three and forced to engage in bestiality and satanic ritual abuse that included the slaughtering and consumption of human babies. According to her psychiatrist, these traumatic experiences had generated alternative personalities, or alters, within Storm’s mind.

Storm is now convinced that her multiple personality disorder was iatrogenic, the product of her “therapy.” But years after the psychiatric sessions have ceased, she is still tormented by vivid memories, nightmares and physical reactions to cues from her fictitious past. Although she was told that the false memories would fade over time, she has had a difficult time purging these “brain stains” from the fabric of her mind.

Storm’s case is similar to those of many other patients who ­underwent recovered-memory therapy that revealed sordid histories of sexual abuse and demonic ceremonies. Although the scientific literature suggests that traumatic events are rarely, if ever, repressed or forgotten, this type of therapy was widespread in the 1990s and is still practiced today. Only after several high-profile lawsuits did the American Medical Association issue warnings to patients about the unreliability of recovered memories. Nadean Cool, the patient described in the newspaper story that turned Storm’s life upside down, filed one such lawsuit. Cool received a $2.4-million settlement after 15 days of courtroom testimony. Amid the heated controversy, the American Psychiatric Association discontinued the diagnostic category of multiple personality disorder, replacing it with the slightly different diagnosis of dissociative identity disorder.

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http://mnemosynosis.livejournal.com/12980.htm...
HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#3 Aug 18, 2011
There has been "No" biological defect found for any mental illness or any of the other made to order diagnoses by any neurological study.

Without a test for chemical imbalance the mental health (psychiatry) is limited in the ancillary tests of medicine like an EKG, EEG, blood work or other tests in the diagnoses of a patient. They aren't needed in Psychiatry.

The psychiatric diagnosis is made on the basis of behavior and hearsay.

If we respect metabolic changes based on daily dietary habits, weight gain / loss , terms of the survival of the organisms as a person age along with physical conditioning, physical illness, electrolyte level, gender differences , body temperature, I don't see how the Mental Health and Counseling Industry could conform to any consistency in data with consideration to the above to state a person has a mental disease or illness based on chemical imbalance.

In the past, the APA lied to the American Public and puts the society in danger to mind drug the population.

The Mental Health Industry is a fraud and can't be trusted. They are a threat to the democracy.

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp...
HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#4 Aug 18, 2011
Up to 35% of wounded soldiers addicted to drugs

Medical officials estimate that 25% to 35% of about 10,000 ailing soldiers assigned to special wounded-care companies or battalions are addicted or dependent on drugs — particularly prescription narcotic pain relievers, according to an Army inspector general's report made public Tuesday.
The report also found that these formations known as Warrior Transition Units — created after reports detailed poorly managed care at Walter Reed Army Hospital— have become costly way stations where ill, injured or wounded soldiers can wait more than a year for a medical discharge. Some soldiers have become so irate about the delays in leaving the Army that doctors, nurses and other medical staff say they have been assaulted in their offices and threatened, or had their private cars damaged or tires flattened, the report says.

"I'm very concerned about folks and their personal safety," says Army Col. Darryl Williams, commander of Warrior Transition Units, of those specific allegations. "I'm going after that really, really hard."
Williams, however, called into question findings about high rates of drug addiction and dependency, saying these percentages were based on estimates made by case managers and nurses working with troops, and are not statistically valid.

Most case managers and nurses interviewed by investigators said 25% to 35% of soldiers in warrior units "are over-medicated, abuse prescriptions and have access to illegal drugs."
They said most soldiers arrive in the units with narcotics provided by battlefield doctors or military hospitals. They also said a few soldiers under their care are buying narcotics out of pocket and may be mixing legal and illegal drugs.

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HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#5 Aug 18, 2011
Military's drug policy threatens troops' health, doctors say
By Bob Brewin 01/18/2011

Pasted from < http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20110118_89... ;
HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#6 Aug 18, 2011
Drug Peddling in the Military

http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/06/tracking-th... ;

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Concerns Raised About Combat Troops Using Psychotropic Drugs

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/19/co...

As U.S. military leaders gathered Wednesday to give their latest update on the rash of Army suicides, new questions are being raised about a U.S. Central Command policy that allows troops to go to Iraq and Afghanistan with up to a six-month supply of psychotropic drugs. 
Prescription drugs have already been linked to some military suicides, and a top Army official warned last year about the danger of soldiers abusing that medication. Psychiatrists are now coming down hard on the military for continuing to sanction certain psychotropic drugs for combat troops, saying the risk from side effects is too great. 
"There's no way on earth that these boys and girls are getting monitored on the field," said Dr. Peter Breggin, a New York-based psychiatrist who has extensively studied the side effects of psychiatric drugs. "The drugs simply shouldn't be given to soldiers." 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/19/co...
HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#7 Aug 18, 2011
Are Veterans Being Given Deadly Cocktails to Treat PTSD?

A potentially deadly drug manufactured by pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca has been linked to the deaths of soldiers returning from war.

http://newsblaze.com/story/20100324080950rose...

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Post-War Suicides May Exceed Combat Deaths, U.S. Says (Update1)
By Avram Goldstein - May 5, 2008 14:15 EDT

Pasted from < http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news... ;

May 5 (Bloomberg)-- The number of suicides among veterans of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan may exceed the combat death toll because of inadequate mental health care, the U.S. government's top psychiatric researcher said.
Community mental health centers, hobbled by financial limits, haven't provided enough scientifically sound care, especially in rural areas, said Thomas Insel, director of the National Institute of Mental Health in Bethesda, Maryland. He briefed reporters today at the American Psychiatric Association's annual meeting in Washington.
Insel echoed a Rand Corporation study published last month that found about 20 percent of returning U.S. soldiers have post- traumatic stress disorder or depression, and only half of them receive treatment. About 1.6 million U.S. troops have fought in the two wars since October 2001, the report said. About 4,560 soldiers had died in the conflicts as of today, the Defense Department reported on its Web site.
Based on those figures and established suicide rates for similar patients who commonly develop substance abuse and other complications of post-traumatic stress disorder,``it's quite possible that the suicides and psychiatric mortality of this war could trump the combat deaths,'' Insel said.
Post-traumatic stress disorder, known as PTSD, is the failure to cope after a major shock, such as an auto accident, a rape or combat, Insel said. PTSD may remain dormant for months or years before it surfaces, and in about 10 percent of cases people never recover, he said.
Difficult to Predict
``We don't yet know how to predict who is going to be the person to be most concerned about,'' Insel said.
The Pentagon didn't dispute Insel's remark.
``The department takes the issue of suicide very seriously, and one suicide is too many,'' said spokeswoman Cynthia Smith in an e-mail.
The department has expanded efforts to encourage soldiers and veterans not to feel stigmatized if they seek mental health treatment, Smith said.
Soldiers who'd been exposed to combat trauma were the most likely to suffer from depression or PTSD, the Rand report said. About 53 percent of soldiers with those conditions sought treatment during the past year. Half of those who got care were judged by Rand researchers to have received inadequate treatment.
Failure to adequately treat the mental and neurological problems of returning soldiers can cause a chain of negative events in the lives of affected veterans, the researchers said. About 300,000 soldiers suffer from depression or PTSD, the report said.
Treatment Options
Researchers aren't sure whether it's appropriate to treat such patients with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, a class of medications that include Prozac, and other anti- depressants, Insel said. His institute is examining that question and novel treatments for PTSD, including using so-called virtual reality technology.
The psychiatric association reported last week that a survey of 191 military members and their spouses found 32 percent said their duty hurt their mental health, and six in 10 believed seeking treatment would damage their careers.
More than 15,000 psychiatrists are attending the professional group's meeting.

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HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#8 Aug 18, 2011
U.S. military: Heavily armed and medicated

Marine Corporal Michael Cataldi woke as he heard the truck rumble past.

He opened his eyes, but saw nothing. It was the middle of the night, and he was facedown in the sands of western Iraq. His loaded M16 was pinned beneath him.

Cataldi had no idea how he'd gotten to where he now lay, some 200 meters from the dilapidated building where his buddies slept. But he suspected what had caused this nightmare: His Klonopin prescription had run out.

His ordeal was not all that remarkable for a person on that anti-anxiety medication. In the lengthy labeling that accompanies each prescription, Klonopin users are warned against abruptly stopping the medicine, since doing so can cause psychosis, hallucinations, and other symptoms. What makes Cataldi's story extraordinary is that he was a U. S. Marine at war, and that the drug's adverse effects endangered lives — his own, his fellow Marines', and the lives of any civilians unfortunate enough to cross his path.

"It put everyone within rifle distance at risk," he says.

In deploying an all-volunteer army to fight two ongoing wars, in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Pentagon has increasingly relied on prescription drugs to keep its warriors on the front lines. In recent years, the number of military prescriptions for antidepressants, sleeping pills, and painkillers has risen as soldiers come home with battered bodies and troubled minds. And many of those service members are then sent back to war theaters in distant lands with bottles of medication to fortify them.

According to data from a U. S. Army mental-health survey released last year, about 12 percent of soldiers in Iraq and 15 percent of those in Afghanistan reported taking antidepressants, anti-anxiety medications, or sleeping pills. Prescriptions for painkillers have also skyrocketed. Data from the Department of Defense last fall showed that as of September 2007, prescriptions for narcotics for active-duty troops had risen to almost 50,000 a month, compared with about 33,000 a month in October 2003, not long after the Iraq war began.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30748260/ns/healt...
HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#9 Aug 18, 2011
The Mental Health Industry has no science. The mind drugging of the military and the addiction to medication has political and financial rewards for the Pharmaceutical / Mental Health Industry.

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There has been "No" biological defect found for any mental illness or any of the other made to order diagnoses by any neurological study.

Without a test for chemical imbalance the mental health (psychiatry) is limited in the ancillary tests of medicine like an EKG, EEG, blood work or other tests in the diagnoses of a patient. They aren't needed in Psychiatry.

The psychiatric diagnosis is made on the basis of behavior and hearsay.

If we respect metabolic changes based on daily dietary habits, weight gain / loss , terms of the survival of the organisms as a person age along with physical conditioning, physical illness, electrolyte level, gender differences , body temperature, I don't see how the Mental Health and Counseling Industry could conform to any consistency in data with consideration to the above to state a person has a mental disease or illness based on chemical imbalance.

In the past, the APA lied to the American Public and puts the society in danger to mind drug the population.

The Mental Health Industry is a fraud and can't be trusted. They are a threat to the democracy.

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp...
eilackey

El Paso, TX

#10 Jan 15, 2012
Human Spirit what exactly is your point? If we ser ve in the military and get f*cked up in the process why shouldn't we get the painkillers that we need? Because of all this bs about Michael Jackson and other people abusing painkillers, I was taken off my Hydrocodone. If it wasn't taking the pain away imagine how I feel now. All I was given is Naproxen when in the past I was taking a combination of hydrocodone and nambumetone. So now they have me on just the nsaid and no painkiller. So now I've taken to drinking whiskey or vodka to get rid of the pain and be able to sleep at night until I can be seen by VA 6 months later? Do you think that is a safe practice?

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