Sons' deaths spark crusade

Sons' deaths spark crusade

There are 86 comments on the State Journal story from Aug 25, 2009, titled Sons' deaths spark crusade. In it, State Journal reports that:

Maj. Gen. Mark Graham hugs his wife, Carol Graham, as the audience claps for them after they each gave touching speeches about losing both of their sons, Kevin, who died by suicide, and Jeffrey, who died serving in Iraq, at the Kentucky Suicide Prevention Group a oeHope in Tough Timesa event at the Frankfort Convention Center Friday.

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“Knowledge is power.”

Since: Apr 09

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#1 Aug 25, 2009
Remember when that report came out saying that Fort. Campbell KY had the most suicides in the U.S military? Something like 1 a week? Why are our soldiers doing this?
Deb

Layton, UT

#2 Sep 5, 2009
When I read the story of the Graham family in a magazine, I wondered how many young soldiers who develope problems due the tragic nature of war, end up on antidepressants. Those countless thousands of us who have been affected by SSRIs (Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Lexapro, Luvox and Celexa) in a negative way, namely suicidal thoughts and actions, don't have a doubt that this "side" effect is the reason that so many soldiers are killing themselves. It's often a change in dose or discontinuation of mind-altering antidepressants that causes the out-of-character violent and suicidal behaviors. Do you research on this problem. The FDA now, finally, has forced drug companies to warn about this problem in children and young adults, although the problem is just as serious in adult users. Big pharmaceutical companies are doing a great job of deflecting blame, so good, in fact, that even men of great intelligence and stature, overlook the obvious.
Sarge

Rock Island, IL

#3 Sep 6, 2009
It is seldom PTSD that kills Vets, it is the treatment. Same with a lot of mental illness, even depression. The drugs they are given often induce suicidal thoughts and tendencies.
ratttlecattle

Christmas, FL

#4 Sep 6, 2009
NO sympathy for our TROOPS WHATSOEVER

They wanted WAR

They wanted DEATH

They wanted DESTRUCTION

They GOT IT

We need sympathy for the innocent victims of our monsterous troops and sick wars.

The USA is cartwheeling into hell and deserves the karma it will get as an nation of arrogance and evil
Sad

United States

#5 Sep 7, 2009
ratttlecattle wrote:
NO sympathy for our TROOPS WHATSOEVER
They wanted WAR
They wanted DEATH
They wanted DESTRUCTION
They GOT IT
We need sympathy for the innocent victims of our monsterous troops and sick wars.
The USA is cartwheeling into hell and deserves the karma it will get as an nation of arrogance and evil
You really have to be a selfish person to say this. That is crazy they fight for our freedom. Do not set on the computer down grading someone that is doing more for themselves and our country. Unlike you.
ratttlecattle

Christmas, FL

#6 Sep 7, 2009
Sad wrote:
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You really have to be a selfish person to say this. That is crazy they fight for our freedom. Do not set on the computer down grading someone that is doing more for themselves and our country. Unlike you.
"Fighting for our FREEDOM"...do you actually believe that LIE?

This war is about the money.....hundreds of billions wasted on a blank check war we deserve to lose and will lose.

Our troops are NOTHING....just expendeble pawns to a rotten system of greed in the DOD
Sarge

Rock Island, IL

#7 Sep 7, 2009
ratttlecattle. It really is a shame our young men and women have to die so you have the freedom spout your vemonous shit. Try living in Venezuela, or Russia, or Iran, or Lybia, or China and post your idiotic crap on a website. Your worthless a$$ would be in jail or executed. You are a totally ignorant worthless piece of human waste.
ratttlecattle

Maitland, FL

#8 Sep 7, 2009
Sarge wrote:
ratttlecattle. It really is a shame our young men and women have to die so you have the freedom spout your vemonous shit. Try living in Venezuela, or Russia, or Iran, or Lybia, or China and post your idiotic crap on a website. Your worthless a$$ would be in jail or executed. You are a totally ignorant worthless piece of human waste.
Blow it out of your Pantyhose SARGE

One of the good things left about this nation is that you can critcize it...YOU FOOL.

I am critical of our mindless self defeating government, that is part of being responsible and patriotic.

Thomas Jefferson said it would be OKAY

Maybe you should read up on TJ.....he understood what freedom is supposed to be about.

You are a US Government POLICY PARROT...... a creature created by our disgraceful military machine.

People like you are nothing....you do not even GET what this country Could have been., instead of the disgrace it is.
Sarge

Rock Island, IL

#9 Sep 7, 2009
I know I am wasting this on you rattletrap because you are just a worthless f**kin Zombie.

"Those who expect to reap the blessings of Freedom
Must, like men, undergo the fatique of supporting it."
Thomas Payne 1776
Okay

Sunnyvale, CA

#10 Sep 7, 2009
ratttlecattle wrote:
<quoted text> "Fighting for our FREEDOM"...do you actually believe that LIE? This war is about the money.....hundreds of billions wasted on a blank check war we deserve to lose and will lose. Our troops are NOTHING....just expendeble pawns to a rotten system of greed in the DOD
you are probably one of the rag wearing fools we let over here tax free no doubt.
Deb

Layton, UT

#11 Sep 7, 2009
This "discussion" is sad...almost as sad as warring nations.Look how quick to anger people are. Absolutely amazing.

“Knowledge is power.”

Since: Apr 09

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#12 Sep 8, 2009
What do they teach you guys down there in Florida anyway?
Sarge

Rock Island, IL

#13 Sep 8, 2009
People like rattlebrain are leeches, blood suckers, parasites. They take, take, take, from this Country and never give anything back. They abuse the freedoms and rights our Military has fought to preserve. They don't vote, but are the first ones to demonstrate or cry and critize when the Government does somethig they don't like. The U.S. is the greatest Country to ever exist in this World. How did the U.S. become such a great Country? The Revolutionary WAR! How did the Blacks gain their Freedom in this Country? The Civil WAR! Hey rattlebrain, was the U.S. involvment in WWI and WWII unnecessary. Should we have just allowed the Japs to attack Pearl Harbor and do anything. Should we have allowed the Nazi's to sink our Merchant Marine ships that were helping Britian during WWII and done nothing? Rattlebrain - THANK GOD we have more people in the Country who are willing to give their lives to keep it FREE and protect our RIGHTS, than we do low life cowardly scum like you.
ratttlecattle

Maitland, FL

#14 Sep 8, 2009
Sarge wrote:
People like rattlebrain are leeches, blood suckers, parasites. They take, take, take, from this Country and never give anything back. They abuse the freedoms and rights our Military has fought to preserve. They don't vote, but are the first ones to demonstrate or cry and critize when the Government does somethig they don't like. The U.S. is the greatest Country to ever exist in this World. How did the U.S. become such a great Country? The Revolutionary WAR! How did the Blacks gain their Freedom in this Country? The Civil WAR! Hey rattlebrain, was the U.S. involvment in WWI and WWII unnecessary. Should we have just allowed the Japs to attack Pearl Harbor and do anything. Should we have allowed the Nazi's to sink our Merchant Marine ships that were helping Britian during WWII and done nothing? Rattlebrain - THANK GOD we have more people in the Country who are willing to give their lives to keep it FREE and protect our RIGHTS, than we do low life cowardly scum like you.
Wrong Again SARGE!

Your simple minded sterotype does not fit the facts

I always vote, never been on Welfare and am a military Veteran myself 1967-70

I am PRO WAR ,if war is neccessary. These wars are not neccessary, smart or winable.

We are fighting Osama Bin Laden's war on his terms EXACTLY the way he wants. The attacks of 9/11/01 was the stratagem to get us to commit troops to his sandbox for HIS maximum advantage.

Militant ignorant americans still have not figured out they are suffering inside a FOOL's TRAP.

You should study the teachings of the warrior philosopher Sun TZU. The first thing you have to determine is if a war is worth fighting.

The strategy of the North Vietnamese and OBL are right out of Sun TZU's book " The ART of WAR", we are already DEFEATED, we just have not admitted it to ourselves....DUH!

American's have no strategy or tactics that make any sense ..LONG TERM. Our strategy appears to be to prolong the war to obtain the most profits for military contractors. We do not want to win.....why stop a multi billion dollar Pentagon " dash for the cash"?

We are TOTALLY BLINDED by american arrogance and high tech foolishness. Our chance of winning anything good are ZERO.

So far we have won...DEBT...DEATH....and DISHONOR

These wars will help crush the corrupt rotten heart of america, as we cartwheel into hell.

Gold is over $1000 an ounce , 69 banks have gone bankrupt so far this year, we owe at least $11.7 trillion.....yet BIMBOS like you want to continue a $12 billion dollar a month LOSER WAR

That is $40 million a day......for a BROKE...EX GREAT Nation that cannot afford anything anymore.

Quit living in the past...the USA is almost out of lies and credit.

God does not bless america anymore, he knows we are a bad credit country that is out of control.



“Yes that's my foot in your ass”

Since: Oct 08

Dallas, Tx

#15 Sep 9, 2009
ratttlecattle wrote:
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Wrong Again SARGE!
I see, you'd rather have suicide bombers in Orlando. Nice. One Percenter Coward, always worried about the money spent on war, he's afraid his welfare check won't make it to the nursing home this month. Time to tell your nurse to get the DNR paperwork signed grandpa.
ratttlecattle

Christmas, FL

#16 Sep 16, 2009
Red Foreman wrote:
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I see, you'd rather have suicide bombers in Orlando. Nice. One Percenter Coward, always worried about the money spent on war, he's afraid his welfare check won't make it to the nursing home this month. Time to tell your nurse to get the DNR paperwork signed grandpa.
You idiot....do you actually think Suicide bombers are headed here.

The 9/11/01 thing was a fluke... you dummy

Now we are delivering our people for them to kill

“Yes that's my foot in your ass”

Since: Oct 08

Dallas, Tx

#17 Sep 16, 2009
ratttlecattle wrote:
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You idiot....do you actually think Suicide bombers are headed here.
The 9/11/01 thing was a fluke... you dummy
Now we are delivering our people for them to kill
Well there is one confirmed suicide bomber here that spends way too much time on topix forums and the like. He's too much of a chicken shiite to do his job as Osama instructed him, right grandpa? Cmon, get off the computer and go do Osama's bidding like you were told.
Noticing a trend

Jefferson City, MO

#18 Sep 16, 2009
I have been flipping through various topics on here involving military and I have found that this "rattlecattle" has just copied and pasted the majority of it's arguments to the next discussion. I would suggest ignoring it. It must enjoy looking like a total ass, and getting good people all worked up over their pathetic attempt at being intelligent. I know that it is probably going to try to slam me in some pitiful way, but frankly it's attempts are getting more and more pathetic.
God bless, rattlecattle. I hope that you find happiness in something in your life.

Oh yeah...I almost forgot...

GOD BLESS THE BEST DAMNED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. GOD BLESS AND PROTECT THE TROOPS FROM CRAZY BASTARDS LIKE THIS NUTJOB...AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
ratttlecattle

Maitland, FL

#19 Sep 17, 2009
Noticing a trend wrote:
I have been flipping through various topics on here involving military and I have found that this "rattlecattle" has just copied and pasted the majority of it's arguments to the next discussion. I would suggest ignoring it. It must enjoy looking like a total ass, and getting good people all worked up over their pathetic attempt at being intelligent. I know that it is probably going to try to slam me in some pitiful way, but frankly it's attempts are getting more and more pathetic.
God bless, rattlecattle. I hope that you find happiness in something in your life.
Oh yeah...I almost forgot...
GOD BLESS THE BEST DAMNED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. GOD BLESS AND PROTECT THE TROOPS FROM CRAZY BASTARDS LIKE THIS NUTJOB...AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
You Fool,

Pin a medal on your empty forehead and march to Iraq....you can kill some children for the flag.

Our Troops are accomplishing what...DEBT..DEATH...DESTRUCTI ON.......

They are compounding BUSH'S Blunders...what is heroic about that.

We will lose by default, our troops will return in a cloud of lies as they did in Vietnam.

The USA was spanked by the Vietnamese...too bad we never learned the lesson.

Americans are fat, arrogant and destined for defeat.....hide and watch... Rambo.

“Yes that's my foot in your ass”

Since: Oct 08

Dallas, Tx

#20 Sep 17, 2009
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