Hawaii-based general out of line on gay issue

Mar 27, 2010 | Posted by: Rick in Kansas | Full story: www.starbulletin.com

The Pentagon took a major step this week toward the acceptance of gays and lesbians in the military, but the Fort Shafter general in charge of all Army troops in the Pacific is marching to a different drummer. If he can no longer keep in step with the chain of command, Lt. Gen. Benjamin Mixon should consider walking away from the ranks.

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Mar 27, 2010
 
Lt. Gen. Mixon really blew it. It publicly spoke against the CiC. Further, he did so in the media. He could face a Court Martial for this. It's unlikely to happen, but he is chargeable.

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Lt. Gen. Mixon really blew it. It publicly spoke against the CiC. Further, he did so in the media. He could face a Court Martial for this. It's unlikely to happen, but he is chargeable.
I'm just curious: How do you think Dan Choi's media contacts compare to General Mixon's?
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His job is not to question why.

His job is to do or die.

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His job is not to question why.
His job is to do or die.
And Lt. Choi?
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Mar 27, 2010
 
nhjeff wrote:
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And Lt. Choi?
.....is off-duty

.....is not a General

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Mar 27, 2010
 
nhjeff wrote:
I'm just curious: How do you think Dan Choi's media contacts compare to General Mixon's?
Like Choi's initial media contacts, Mixon's will also cost him his military career. Where Choi was involuntarily separated from the service, Mixon, as well as Marine Commandant Conway, will soon find themselves more or less voluntarily retiring with benefits...

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nhjeff wrote:
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I'm just curious: How do you think Dan Choi's media contacts compare to General Mixon's?
Thus far, he seems to have skated very close to the line without stepping over it. From what I have been able to tell, as a Reservist he has not been on Active Duty during his speeches and direct actions and, stock photos aside, despite appearing in camos he appears to have avoided wearing any U.S. Military insignia while engaged in his political activities. Some of his speech has been more than intemperate.

Personally, I think he is a bit of a loose cannon.

The General was Active Duty; the Commanding Officer of a U.S. Army Fort; not being publicly deposed by Congress; and essaying in a general organ of the United States Military.

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Mar 28, 2010
 
I really don't get how certain people in the military are getting away with this rank-and-file crap. First we have a general completely and intentionally lying to congress and now we have this? Shouldn't these rank-and-file homophobes be held accountable when they buck the system in such a way?
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Mar 28, 2010
 
As we move toward the abolishment of DADT, this whole business about having to have gay and straight soldiers bunk separately all of a sudden is completely preposterous. I absolutely dont get that train of thinking. Gay and straight soldiers have been bunking together in the American military for nearly 250 years with no problem. Why the sudden urgency to change a tried and true policy that has worked so well for centuries!?

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As we move toward the abolishment of DADT, this whole business about having to have gay and straight soldiers bunk separately all of a sudden is completely preposterous. I absolutely dont get that train of thinking. Gay and straight soldiers have been bunking together in the American military for nearly 250 years with no problem. Why the sudden urgency to change a tried and true policy that has worked so well for centuries!?
It's called a red herring.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Like Choi's initial media contacts, Mixon's will also cost him his military career. Where Choi was involuntarily separated from the service, Mixon, as well as Marine Commandant Conway, will soon find themselves more or less voluntarily retiring with benefits...
Unfortunately Gen Mixon & Conway will get to retire with benefits. They COULD be fired with NO benefits, but that would make martyrs out of them.

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McMike wrote:
I really don't get how certain people in the military are getting away with this rank-and-file crap. First we have a general completely and intentionally lying to congress and now we have this? Shouldn't these rank-and-file homophobes be held accountable when they buck the system in such a way?
Trust me, both these generals will be retiring by the end of the year. Just wait and see.

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What I think probably will convince the admirals and generals who have brains the most is the number of great subordinates they have been forced to dismiss. The brainless ones will eventually retire, and will be replaced by folks from a different generation. Some will be equally brainless, but on the whole they will have progressed in the area of tolerance.

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What I think probably will convince the admirals and generals who have brains the most is the number of great subordinates they have been forced to dismiss. The brainless ones will eventually retire, and will be replaced by folks from a different generation. Some will be equally brainless, but on the whole they will have progressed in the area of tolerance.
The same kind of resistance occured over women aboard ships. During that time I heard numerous senior enlisted members state they would retire before serving with women. I told them the quicker they retired the faster the rest of us could advance in rank!

There are MANY mid-level enlisted & officers just waiting for these old bigoted geezers to finally retire so they stop clogging up the advancement pipeline.

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Unfortunately Gen Mixon & Conway will get to retire with benefits. They COULD be fired with NO benefits, but that would make martyrs out of them.
Which is exactly why they will be quietly retired with benefits. We've got to give this administration some credit, they're going to make sure there are no martyrs in this if they can help it.
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I say let the filthy queers stay in the military cause we need them for target practice!!!

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McMike wrote:
I really don't get how certain people in the military are getting away with this rank-and-file crap. First we have a general completely and intentionally lying to congress and now we have this? Shouldn't these rank-and-file homophobes be held accountable when they buck the system in such a way?
The General who lied to Congress is retired.

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The same kind of resistance occured over women aboard ships. During that time I heard numerous senior enlisted members state they would retire before serving with women. I told them the quicker they retired the faster the rest of us could advance in rank!
There are MANY mid-level enlisted & officers just waiting for these old bigoted geezers to finally retire so they stop clogging up the advancement pipeline.
They don't want to retire yet. There are no open slots for new military-industrial lobbyists open during the economic crisis.

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All Gays should have the priority if not only the equal rights to first die for America on the front lines!

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