Soldiers choose war over bleak economy

Soldiers choose war over bleak economy

There are 23 comments on the www.msnbc.msn.com story from Dec 2, 2008, titled Soldiers choose war over bleak economy. In it, www.msnbc.msn.com reports that:

Sgt. Ryan Nyhus spent 14 months patrolling the deadly streets of Baghdad, where five members of his platoon were shot and one died. As bad as that was, he would rather go back there than take his chances in this brutal job market.

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Since: Mar 08

Pittsburgh, PA

#1 Dec 2, 2008
I would prefer a brutal job market, besides, a guy like that with the trainig that he has wouldn't find it hard landing a job for his skills.

“Free money is a myth”

Since: Aug 08

Chattanooga, TN

#3 Dec 2, 2008
If one wishes to be a merc,at least go for the money. Blackwater,Sandline,Executive Outcomes all pay MUCH better with better training available.

“Free money is a myth”

Since: Aug 08

Chattanooga, TN

#5 Dec 2, 2008
E8Ret wrote:
Well, I don't know about the better training part.
Most of the guys are military trained.
Being ex S.F. myself, I don't think they would spend anywhere near the amount of money that Uncle Sam spent to train me.
Tax dollars are a little easier to spend than company money.:-)
Honors on your "flash tab"!(I do hope my slang is correct!)

Had the honor of working with a legend from your groups years ago,a Lt.Charles Beckwith(I think he made Col. later on). I was on loan from a different family inside the global family so to say,to do a bit of desert training with him and his merry bunch of gentlemen.

Perhaps I misspoke,I was thinking of more "real time on the job" training,and from a broad variety of gents.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#7 Dec 2, 2008
This is terribly sad. To choose the military as a career because it is your passion is much different than this. Considering the large number of soldiers returning with massive mental and physical problems related to this war - it really is rather sad to hear this. On the other hand - in terms of the war(s) in which we are engaged - we need the military staff badly. The return of staff over and over again to the war zones is part of why the mental and physical problmes are at the high numbers they are at. I pray for all of them .
Living In Margaritaville

Philippines

#9 Dec 2, 2008
George Warmonger wrote:
It's just more propaganda to get people to enlist.
Couldn't have said it better..........blind leading the blind no doubt?
braveheart

Weaubleau, MO

#11 Dec 3, 2008
What we need is funds for our kids that are getting out of the military service to help them until they find jobs.
it should be funded by corporate oil.
Living In Margaritaville

Philippines

#12 Dec 3, 2008
I have to read that book, looks like the truth is here again..........Eisenhower would be so proud!!!!!
Skeptic

United States

#13 Dec 3, 2008
E8Ret wrote:
These so called "wars" are nothing more than a way for companies and certain people to get rich.
If the U.S. would quit screwing around with other people's countries, the terrorists would go home.
Spreading DU depleted uranium all over the middle east isn't helping to win their hearts and minds.
They will be suffering birth defects from it for thousands of years.
There is NO GLORY in what we have done!!!
E8Ret,

I certainly admire and thank you for your service in the military but wonder about your claim that depleted uranium will increase birth defects. I believe depleted uranium is “what’s left” after the radioactive isotope, uranium 235, is removed and is primarily uranium 238 and not particularly radioactive. Is that incorrect?

However I also believe that though depleted uranium is an excellent material for armor-piercing shells (due to its combination of high strength and high density) there is a better use for it. Used in a “breeder” reactor it can be converted to plutonium and plutonium could supplement uranium 235 in nuclear power plants.

I also doubt that either Kuwait or Iraq was invaded for profit. I believe we almost had to stop Saddam in Kuwait or Saudi would have been next and crude prices would REALLY have gone through the roof. I feel invasion of Iraq was the 2nd worst decision by a POTUS in my lifetime only to LBJ's "two booted jump" into Viet Nam.

The larger oil companies would have made FAR more had Saddam been able to increase crude prices more than they did increase and Halliburton, for example, would probably like to see us leave Iraq, the Shiite and Sunni's have their civil war and the winner need to restore Iraq's oil production. That's where they make LOADS of money--they did as the general contractor in restoration of Kuwait's production.

Finally, did you see much use of armor piercing shells after the initial assaults in Kuwait or Iraq?

“Here's looking at ya!”

Since: Jul 07

Sellersville, PA

#14 Dec 3, 2008
Well at least he don't have to worry about loseing his job.
Think About It

Claremore, OK

#15 Dec 3, 2008
I've been thinking about it, and have come to the conclusion that those terrorists are not gonna go home, like e8 retired suggests; in fact thier coming for us, ask the people in 60 countries that are being slaughtered on a daily basis.
I hope thiers plenty of Men like Sgt Nyus who will stay in the military and be all they can be.
Personally, I think the draft should be reinstituted; we are at war, and your country needs you..The Muslim Horde is on the march and those limp wristed girly men in Washington can't seem to get a grip on that!
Economy

San Diego, CA

#16 Dec 3, 2008
I mean if you don't have a job in the USA, you don't have a home, food and clothing. You are as good as dead anyhow out in the cold streets of winter.
FrenchExpat
#20 Dec 3, 2008
Think About It wrote:
I've been thinking about it, and have come to the conclusion that those terrorists are not gonna go home, like e8 retired suggests; in fact thier coming for us, ask the people in 60 countries that are being slaughtered on a daily basis.
I hope thiers plenty of Men like Sgt Nyus who will stay in the military and be all they can be.
Personally, I think the draft should be reinstituted; we are at war, and your country needs you..The Muslim Horde is on the march and those limp wristed girly men in Washington can't seem to get a grip on that!
That's why USA can afford another 4 years of another Conservative moron!

Greed and bad governance some might even say the very nature of capitalism itself is to blame. One thing the new administration should do is drop the "war on terror" terminology.

What is required in international cooperation, dialogue and diplomacy. I hope an international anti- terrorist police force of some kind will be formed.

Thank god, only few more weeks of THAT moron.
Jones

“It's about the American People”

Since: Jun 07

Flushing, NY

#21 Dec 3, 2008
Our brave US troops need to stay in Iraq for the next three years as agreed with the Iraqi government because they protect our own national security more than anybody else’s.
Our US troops are victorious in Iraq and they shall not leave before their job is done successfully, even if Barack Hussein Obama think otherwise for his narrow minded anti-American liberal pro-Islamic agenda.
However, Gates is singing new songs under his new demanding boss Barack Hussein Obama who seeks the removal of US troops from Iraq and the entire Middle East while leaving the Middle East to the rule of radical Islam and their Islamic terrorist organizations.
Clearly, Gates knows that Iraq needs three years to make sure that security is kept by Iraq troops as the Iranian regime’s Mehdi Army and the Iranian revolutionary Guards will be ready to ‘fill the vacuum’. Ahmadinajad who enthusiastically supported and financed the election of Islamic Messiah Barack Hussein Obama through his Hamas and Hezbollah Islamic terrorists is waiting to the withdrawal of US troops as he knows that Iraq will easily fall under Iranian regime.
The agreement of Gates to a rapid cut and run and pre-mature withdrawal of US troops will lead to new chaos in Iraq and new civil war that will trash all US troops’ achievements.
In addition, Gates surrendering to Barack Obama demand to close Gitmo and release the Islamic terrorists to resume their murderous attacks like the attack on India is irresponsible and put the American people in major risk of Islamic terrorist attacks in America.
Thank you Gates for changing your mind about supporting our US troop’s victory in Iraq faster than one can say Barack Hussein Obama.
Jones

“It's about the American People”

Since: Jun 07

Flushing, NY

#22 Dec 3, 2008
FrenchExpat wrote:
<quoted text>
That's why USA can afford another 4 years of another Conservative moron!
Greed and bad governance some might even say the very nature of capitalism itself is to blame. One thing the new administration should do is drop the "war on terror" terminology.
What is required in international cooperation, dialogue and diplomacy. I hope an international anti- terrorist police force of some kind will be formed.
Thank god, only few more weeks of THAT moron.
You are wrong. All the so called international forces under UN work for the interests of the radical Islamic regimes of the Middle east including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran while giving support of their Islamic terrorist that killed 200,000 Christians in Darfur.
In addition the corrupt pro-Islamic UN supports the Hamas and Hezbollah Islamic terrorists in Gaza, West bank and Lebanon and help them in their vicious attacks on the civilized world.
FrenchExpat
#23 Dec 3, 2008
Jones wrote:
<quoted text>You are wrong. All the so called international forces under UN work for the interests of the radical Islamic regimes of the Middle east including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran while giving support of their Islamic terrorist that killed 200,000 Christians in Darfur.
In addition the corrupt pro-Islamic UN supports the Hamas and Hezbollah Islamic terrorists in Gaza, West bank and Lebanon and help them in their vicious attacks on the civilized world.
Interesting but the top sources of US crude oil imports for September were Saudi Arabia (1.429 million barrels per day).

So who is exactly your enemy??
Mud Hut Dweller

Claremore, OK

#24 Dec 3, 2008
FrenchExpat wrote:
<quoted text>
That's why USA can afford another 4 years of another Conservative moron!
Greed and bad governance some might even say the very nature of capitalism itself is to blame. One thing the new administration should do is drop the "war on terror" terminology.
What is required in international cooperation, dialogue and diplomacy. I hope an international anti- terrorist police force of some kind will be formed.
Thank god, only few more weeks of THAT moron.
Well I see you must have missed what I was saying, Bush RULES, the panty hosed Congress and Senate are to blame. They are weak,slimeballs; take Tedasourous Kennedy for an example, He let a woman drown right there in front of him, no manly drive or human for that matter to save that woman.

And most recent, the socialistic bailout bull that will destroy our economy even further.

“Heinous Blasphemer!”

Since: Oct 07

Seattle, WA

#25 Dec 3, 2008
Jones wrote:
Our brave US troops need to stay in Iraq for the next three years as agreed with the Iraqi government because they protect our own national security more than anybody else’s.
Our US troops are victorious in Iraq and they shall not leave before their job is done successfully, even if Barack Hussein Obama think otherwise for his narrow minded anti-American liberal pro-Islamic agenda.
However, Gates is singing new songs under his new demanding boss Barack Hussein Obama who seeks the removal of US troops from Iraq and the entire Middle East while leaving the Middle East to the rule of radical Islam and their Islamic terrorist organizations.
Clearly, Gates knows that Iraq needs three years to make sure that security is kept by Iraq troops as the Iranian regime’s Mehdi Army and the Iranian revolutionary Guards will be ready to ‘fill the vacuum’. Ahmadinajad who enthusiastically supported and financed the election of Islamic Messiah Barack Hussein Obama through his Hamas and Hezbollah Islamic terrorists is waiting to the withdrawal of US troops as he knows that Iraq will easily fall under Iranian regime.
The agreement of Gates to a rapid cut and run and pre-mature withdrawal of US troops will lead to new chaos in Iraq and new civil war that will trash all US troops’ achievements.
In addition, Gates surrendering to Barack Obama demand to close Gitmo and release the Islamic terrorists to resume their murderous attacks like the attack on India is irresponsible and put the American people in major risk of Islamic terrorist attacks in America.
Thank you Gates for changing your mind about supporting our US troop’s victory in Iraq faster than one can say Barack Hussein Obama.
I see your head's still shoved up there. Dude, pull it out before you suffocate!

“Missing Mickey!!”

Since: Mar 08

St.Louis

#26 Dec 3, 2008
My husband feels the same way..and if me and my husband ever broke up..I would go back into the military.
Skeptic

Houston, TX

#27 Dec 3, 2008
FrenchExpat wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting but the top sources of US crude oil imports for September were Saudi Arabia (1.429 million barrels per day).
So who is exactly your enemy??
Not quite correct! We did indeed import 1,429 Bbl/Day from Saudi but we imported 1,923 from Canada.

Historically Saudi has been our 3rd largest source of imports behind both Canada and Mexico.
Skeptic

Houston, TX

#28 Dec 3, 2008
I left out the million!

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