Don't ask when: Repeal of gay ban won...

Don't ask when: Repeal of gay ban won't be soon

There are 77 comments on the WBT-AM Charlotte story from Feb 16, 2010, titled Don't ask when: Repeal of gay ban won't be soon. In it, WBT-AM Charlotte reports that:

In this July 31, 2007, file photo Maj. Gen. Carter Ham reviews troops during a change of command ceremony for the 1st Infantry Division at Fort Riley, Mo.

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Achmed

Waltham, MA

#61 Feb 17, 2010
Islam

"We also sent Lut: He said to his people: Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds. And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!"" (Qur'an 7:80-82)

"Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)! They said: "If thou desist not, O Lut! thou wilt assuredly be cast out!" He said: "I do detest your doings:" "O my Lord! deliver me and my family from such things as they do!" So We delivered him and his family,- all Except an old woman who lingered behind. But the rest We destroyed utterly. We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)! Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 26:165-175)

"Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant! But his people gave no other answer but this: They said, "Drive out the followers of Lut from your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!" But We saved him and his family, except his wife; her We destined to be of those who lagged behind. And We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)!" (Qur'an 27:55-58)

"And (remember) Lut: behold, he said to his people: "Ye do commit lewdness, such as no people in Creation (ever) committed before you. Do ye indeed approach men, and cut off the highway?- and practise wickedness (even) in your councils?" But his people gave no answer but this: they said: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if thou tellest the truth." (Qur'an 29:28-29)

"If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way. If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 4:15-16)

Since: May 08

Long Beach, California

#62 Feb 17, 2010
Achmed wrote:
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Typical american fool. Obama is like all your other leeders - a war lover and killer of inocent peoples! ALLAH IS GREAT!
LOL!
Achmed

Waltham, MA

#63 Feb 17, 2010
Islam says:

“When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes.”
Achmed

Waltham, MA

#64 Feb 17, 2010
“Homosexuality is a moral disorder, a sin and corruption… No person is born homosexual, just like no one is born a thief, a liar or murderer. People acquire these evil habits due to a lack of proper guidance and education… Homosexuality deprives a man of his manhood and a woman of her womanhood and leads to the destruction of family life.” (Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi, Islamic Society of North America)
Achmed

Waltham, MA

#65 Feb 17, 2010
Islam says:
The penalties for homosexuality range from flogging, imprisonment, or execution by throwing the criminal off a cliff or pushing a stone wall onto them. There is no leniency or forgiveness as shown in the 4,000 homosexuals which have been killed in Iran since 1979.
Achmed

Waltham, MA

#66 Feb 17, 2010
Homosexuality is not allowed in Islam. There are various verses in Quran where Allah clearly says about Homosexuality.

We also (sent) Lut: he said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? "For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." - Holy Quran 7:80-81

"Of all the creatures in the world will ye approach males". "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!" - Holy Quran 26:165-166

The end result for not giving up homosexuality was the destruction of entire cities

When Our decree issued We turned (the cities) upside down and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay spread layer on layer Marked as from thy Lord: nor are they ever far from those who do wrong!- Holy Quran 11:82-83

The Quran forbids any sexual relationship other than in a marriage between a man and a woman. Many homosexual men and women claim that they are born with their sexual preferences and that they have no choice. Although this point is very much in dispute in the medical world, it has no support in the Quran. Even then, irrespective of the nature of homosexuality, this matter would not affect the laws spelled out clearly in the Quran .

We know that this life is a test. Everyone of us has his/her own test. For example someone may be born blind, but that person is expected to live his/her life according to God's law. Others are born poor, short, tall, weak, missing fingers, having big nose...etc but all of them are expected to follow God's law. Some men or women may never marry in their life, or spend part of their life without a spouse. As per the Quran they still have to live a chaste life and avoid any sexual contacts outside a marriage. They have to suppress their sexual feelings to follow God's law. It is a major test and not an easy one for many. Only those who submit to God will do everything they can to follow His law. They know that their salvation and eternal happiness rests in doing so.

Since God condemns homosexuality, then we have to believe that a man or a woman with homosexual feelings is expected to behave like any other human being and follows God's laws if he/she truely believes in them. He/she shall resist his/her feelings , maintains abstinence , use all available resources of help including medical, social and behavioral therapies to overcome their behavior and feelings. They should pray to God to help them getting over it and submit to God's law that sees homosexuality as gross sin. Only those who steadfastly persevere in obeying God's law will they pass their test and confirm their submission to God.

For a person who asks, "why me?" We know God is the Most Merciful and Just (16:90) and He will give each one of us a fair test and a fair chance. He assigns the tests to suite each one of us and we believe that He will never burden any soul beyond its means (23:2).

And We have explained to man in this Qur'an every kind of similitude: yet the grater part of men refuse (to receive it) except with ingratitude!- Holy Quran 17:89
Achmed

Waltham, MA

#67 Feb 17, 2010
Repent... infidel homosexuals!!!
Achmed

Waltham, MA

#68 Feb 17, 2010
Homosexuals: An enema does not make you clean and acceptable to receive a penis!

Since: May 08

Long Beach, California

#69 Feb 17, 2010
Achmed wrote:
Repent... infidel homosexuals!!!
Will do.
Achmed

Waltham, MA

#70 Feb 17, 2010
* Prior to the AIDS epidemic, a 1978 study found that 75 percent of white, gay males claimed to have had more than 100 lifetime male sex partners: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed 500- 999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. Levels of promiscuity subsequently declined, but some observers are concerned that promiscuity is again approaching the levels of the 1970s. The medical consequence of this promiscuity is that gays have a greatly increased likelihood of contracting HIV/AIDS, syphilis and other STDs.

Similar extremes of promiscuity have not been documented among lesbians. However, an Australian study found that 93 percent of lesbians reported having had sex with men, and lesbians were 4.5 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had more than 50 lifetime male sex partners. Any degree of sexual promiscuity carries the risk of contracting STDs.

* Physical Health

Common sexual practices among gay men lead to numerous STDs and physical injuries, some of which are virtually unknown in the heterosexual population. Lesbians are also at higher risk for STDs. In addition to diseases that may be transmitted during lesbian sex, a study at an Australian STD clinic found that lesbians were three to four times more likely than heterosexual women to have sex with men who were high-risk for HIV.

* Mental Health

It is well established that there are high rates of psychiatric illnesses, including depression, drug abuse, and suicide attempts, among gays and lesbians. This is true even in the Netherlands, where gay, lesbian and bisexual (GLB) relationships are far more socially acceptable than in the U.S. Depression and drug abuse are strongly associated with risky sexual practices that lead to serious medical problems.

* Life Span

The only epidemiological study to date on the life span of gay men concluded that gay and bisexual men lose up to 20 years of life expectancy.

* Monogamy

Monogamy, meaning long-term sexual fidelity, is rare in GLB relationships, particularly among gay men. One study reported that 66 percent of gay couples reported sex outside the relationship within the first year, and nearly 90 percent if the relationship lasted five years.

“Brutally honest. ”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#71 Feb 17, 2010
Achmed wrote:
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----------INFIDEL !!--------
Achmed the Dead Terrorist says:

"I KILL YOU!"

“Brutally honest. ”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#73 Feb 17, 2010
Achmed wrote:
ALLAH IS GREAT!!! All gays will be punished severely in the next world!
"Oh Holy Crap, I think I shot my foot off..."

Since: May 08

Long Beach, California

#74 Feb 17, 2010
LOL! funny puppet

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#75 Feb 17, 2010
ManM wrote:
Hey, maybe letting people in the gay lifestyle serve openly will work out. The born again believers in the military will be able to share the gospel of Christ with them and maybe they will be saved from the penalties of their sins. I would love to see that happen! It's already happening around the US.
That'd be a great way to identify all the insane bible-beaters and kick THEM out of the military!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#76 Feb 17, 2010
ManM wrote:
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I hope that your view of true born again believers isn't based on any of those that you've described. The truth of the matter is that the military does have many true born again believers and they are allowed to share their faith with others and evangelize.
They are not allowed to force someone into anything, but the can definitly share about Jesus Christ, the only Way, hell, sin, and the need for the to repent and be made born again.
+, I don't think that you or anyone on this site is stupid.
I don't need to be "born again", I was born right the first time. Why is it all the true believers are all drug addicts, wife beaters, child molestors, etc, yet we're supposed to believe THEY are going to heaven just because they chant from their bible? Talk about stupid.....

Since: Apr 07

Philadelphia, PA

#77 Feb 21, 2010
ManM wrote:
Hey, maybe letting people in the gay lifestyle serve openly will work out. The born again believers in the military will be able to share the gospel of Christ with them and maybe they will be saved from the penalties of their sins. I would love to see that happen! It's already happening around the US.
You people are sad. I think deep down you know the truth, and you just won't admit it to yourselves because *you* perceive that your faith would crumble. This just doesn't make any sense anymore.

Millions of gay people worldwide are all saying *exactly* the same thing, that they were born that way, and people like you are just not hearing it, because you don't want to, and yet you *watch your rhetoric cause endless fights and arguments*.

Notice how the pro-gay now speak for people like you in terms of your "faith"? They're doing what you're doing. You're speaking *for* gay people who should know far better than you about their own lives and experiences, and therefore, logic allows others to speak for you, and your life and experience.

Gay people do not "change." It is not a "lifestyle." It is simply what it is, it is immutable, and *no one* on the planet has a problem with this *except for obsessive religious persons who argue and argue* what they would have absolutely no way in the world of knowing, as evidence shows.

Since: Apr 07

Philadelphia, PA

#78 Feb 21, 2010
I skip most of the "religious" posts; tired of reading utter, literal nonsense.

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