Iraq pullout must go slowly, troops w...

Iraq pullout must go slowly, troops warn

There are 18 comments on the www.armytimes.com story from Nov 16, 2008, titled Iraq pullout must go slowly, troops warn . In it, www.armytimes.com reports that:

President-elect Barack Obama may have won the White House largely on his economic platform, but he appears to have some work ahead of him to forge a connection with one important slice of his new constituency — America’s service members.

Obama “hasn’t served,” said Army Capt. Alexander Misiewicz, who spent a year as an operating room nurse at the combat support hospital in Baghdad and is now assigned to Fort Hamilton, N.Y.

Obama’s call to withdraw U.S. combat troops from Iraq within 18 months “means we’ll have to go back later, probably in greater numbers, and spill more blood to get the job done,” Misiewicz said. “The Iraqis are stepping up, but they’re not quite there yet.”

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FormerUSarmy
#1 Nov 16, 2008
War- A concept that the US under Bush has not seemed quite able to grasp for the last 8 years.

Republicans do NOTHING but cut taxes for the ones who don't need them and then spend billions of dollars in re-building a country called Iraq that we invaded because of Saddam Hussein's so called weapons of mass destruction.

Aha, now I know where those weapons are. There in anyone's head who thinks President Bush is innocent.

“Want Your Extra Time And Your ”

Since: Sep 08

USA

#2 Nov 16, 2008
Many thanks to Nurse Misiewicz for sharing his opinions about waging war in Iraq. He spouts the right wing talking points as well as any talk radio host.

“Gun toting liberal”

Since: Nov 07

Wilmington

#3 Nov 16, 2008
Obama has shown that he is a careful decision-maker. He seems to have the ability to empathize and learn vicariously, and the desire to surround himself with good advisors. He will do just fine with the military.
Iraqis

San Diego, CA

#4 Nov 16, 2008
You have to know the history of Iraqis why they wanted the USA in their country defending them.

If the USA leaves too soon, the terrorists will wipe out all of the innocent IRAQIs and eventually they will leak to the US soil.

If the USA wanted to change the ways of the IRAQI people, this will take 16-18 years.

It will take this long to have a young generation of IRAQIs grow from being a baby to an adult and learn that terrorism is not a way of life.
Then they eventually become new leaders of the IRAQI government that oppose terrorism.

Basically, the US is training the IRAQIs what freedom is all about so that when these young ones become adults, they can take over on their own.

COMPARE

North Korea (NO FREEDOM)


South Korea (WITH FREEDOM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#6 Nov 16, 2008
Hey Pudintain

You may have noticed my recent inactivity in this section.

Drop me an email - chairman AT appofga DOT org
Vice President

Hanover Park, IL

#7 Nov 16, 2008
Kimbefly wrote:
Obama has shown that he is a careful decision-maker. He seems to have the ability to empathize and learn vicariously, and the desire to surround himself with good advisors. He will do just fine with the military.
My thoughts exactly. Obama's not the type to do anything rash or dangerous for the sake of political expediency.

Withdraw from Iraq within 18 months is a worthy goal, but only if it can be done safely.
GoVikings69

United States

#8 Nov 17, 2008
Iraqis wrote:
You have to know the history of Iraqis why they wanted the USA in their country defending them.
If the USA leaves too soon, the terrorists will wipe out all of the innocent IRAQIs and eventually they will leak to the US soil.
If the USA wanted to change the ways of the IRAQI people, this will take 16-18 years.
It will take this long to have a young generation of IRAQIs grow from being a baby to an adult and learn that terrorism is not a way of life.
Then they eventually become new leaders of the IRAQI government that oppose terrorism.
Basically, the US is training the IRAQIs what freedom is all about so that when these young ones become adults, they can take over on their own.
COMPARE
North Korea (NO FREEDOM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ajATPo-HUfYXX
South Korea (WITH FREEDOM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
So you want to stay another 10 to 12 years??? Damnnnnnnnnn.........coo coo coo coo, You go stay for 10 to 12 years, No....didn't think so! All this while our infrastruture is in meltdown mode ! STFU !!!
nightstick

Denmark, WI

#9 Nov 17, 2008
Iraq is like the local hooker Substantial penalty for early withdrawal

“Snooze you lose”

Since: Mar 07

Sunnyvale, CA

#10 Nov 17, 2008
Iraqis wrote:
You have to know the history of Iraqis why they wanted the USA in their country defending them.
If the USA leaves too soon, the terrorists will wipe out all of the innocent IRAQIs and eventually they will leak to the US soil.
If the USA wanted to change the ways of the IRAQI people, this will take 16-18 years.
It will take this long to have a young generation of IRAQIs grow from being a baby to an adult and learn that terrorism is not a way of life.
Then they eventually become new leaders of the IRAQI government that oppose terrorism.
Basically, the US is training the IRAQIs what freedom is all about so that when these young ones become adults, they can take over on their own.
COMPARE
North Korea (NO FREEDOM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ajATPo-HUfYXX
South Korea (WITH FREEDOM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I'm under the impression that Iraqis want us OUT of Iraq including the leadership. Which Iraqis are you referring to that prefer to remain under foreign occupation?

Since: Oct 08

Lawrence Kansas

#11 Nov 17, 2008
workerbeedrone wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm under the impression that Iraqis want us OUT of Iraq including the leadership. Which Iraqis are you referring to that prefer to remain under foreign occupation?
You people never cease to amaze me. Of course the picture is one of the Iraquis wanting us out because that is the only picture the media has painted. I retired after Desert Storm (you remember the one Colon Powell advised aginst going after Sadam on) with 22yrs service. My son has served as a Marine in Iraq and I assure you he had hundred of men, women and children thank him for the job we are doing there and as a whole they are very happy we are there. We will never know how many American lives have been saved in the US due to the intellegence gleaned there. So all of you arm chair quarterbacks need to either learn the facts (not what the meida projects) or join the branch of the military of your choice and serve. I assure you in no uncertain terms if we pull out improperly the next war will NOT be fought on foreign soil.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#12 Nov 17, 2008
Amen brother - and thanky you to you and your son for faithful service to our country from me and mine.
KAWBOY wrote:
<quoted text>
You people never cease to amaze me. Of course the picture is one of the Iraquis wanting us out because that is the only picture the media has painted. I retired after Desert Storm (you remember the one Colon Powell advised aginst going after Sadam on) with 22yrs service. My son has served as a Marine in Iraq and I assure you he had hundred of men, women and children thank him for the job we are doing there and as a whole they are very happy we are there. We will never know how many American lives have been saved in the US due to the intellegence gleaned there. So all of you arm chair quarterbacks need to either learn the facts (not what the meida projects) or join the branch of the military of your choice and serve. I assure you in no uncertain terms if we pull out improperly the next war will NOT be fought on foreign soil.

“VICTORY is Mine”

Since: Sep 07

Ambridge, PA

#13 Nov 17, 2008
KAWBOY wrote:
<quoted text>
You people never cease to amaze me. Of course the picture is one of the Iraquis wanting us out because that is the only picture the media has painted. I retired after Desert Storm (you remember the one Colon Powell advised aginst going after Sadam on) with 22yrs service. My son has served as a Marine in Iraq and I assure you he had hundred of men, women and children thank him for the job we are doing there and as a whole they are very happy we are there. We will never know how many American lives have been saved in the US due to the intellegence gleaned there. So all of you arm chair quarterbacks need to either learn the facts (not what the meida projects) or join the branch of the military of your choice and serve. I assure you in no uncertain terms if we pull out improperly the next war will NOT be fought on foreign soil.
I second that. I did OIF 2006 and still serving but at home. If anybody spent anytime reading something other than NYT you would this. You want to know what the Iraqis are really doing?
Go here, a lot of great things are going on in Iraq.
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/
https://www.mnf-iraq.com/images/Unit_Newslett...
http://iraq.usembassy.gov/iraq/iraqigovlinks....

“Snooze you lose”

Since: Mar 07

Sunnyvale, CA

#14 Nov 17, 2008
KAWBOY wrote:
<quoted text>
You people never cease to amaze me. Of course the picture is one of the Iraquis wanting us out because that is the only picture the media has painted. I retired after Desert Storm (you remember the one Colon Powell advised aginst going after Sadam on) with 22yrs service. My son has served as a Marine in Iraq and I assure you he had hundred of men, women and children thank him for the job we are doing there and as a whole they are very happy we are there. We will never know how many American lives have been saved in the US due to the intellegence gleaned there. So all of you arm chair quarterbacks need to either learn the facts (not what the meida projects) or join the branch of the military of your choice and serve. I assure you in no uncertain terms if we pull out improperly the next war will NOT be fought on foreign soil.
You might be correct that the next war will not be fought on foreign soil. I seriously doubt it, but in either case I wasn't questioning that conjecture.
I'm questioning the assertion that most Iraqis want the U.S. occupying Iraq. I haven't seen any evidence to support that. Just a few months ago Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki spoke of a short "time horizon" when U.S. troops would pull out.

Here is a link to Iraqi opinion polls taken over time. It was taken in March 2008, so opinions may have changed somewhat since then. The U.S. and U.S. troops are not highly regarded. You think otherwise? It would seem to me to be an obvious response. How would you feel if there were foreign occupiers on U.S. soil? I think you would hate it regardless of why they were there. I think it's a natural thing to feel for most people.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/i...

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#15 Nov 17, 2008
I'd consider the source of that poll date

Since: Aug 08

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#16 Nov 17, 2008
correction, data

Since: Oct 08

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#17 Nov 17, 2008
whenever you pull something out;you have to do it 'slowly'...its' common courtesy...even when you pull your...
Vice President

Hanover Park, IL

#18 Nov 17, 2008
just a guy i knew wrote:
whenever you pull something out;you have to do it 'slowly'...its' common courtesy...even when you pull your...
And I seem to recall hearing somewhere that the "pull and pray" method wasn't particularly effective.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19 Nov 19, 2008
Vice President wrote:
<quoted text>
And I seem to recall hearing somewhere that the "pull and pray" method wasn't particularly effective.
you didn't pray hard enough,i guess.:)))

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