Obama to announce Afghanistan withdra...

Obama to announce Afghanistan withdrawal plans Wednesday

There are 9 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jun 20, 2011, titled Obama to announce Afghanistan withdrawal plans Wednesday. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

By Karen DeYoung and Scott Wilson , President Obama will announce Wednesday his decision on how many troops to withdraw from Afghanistan next month, concluding a process of consultation with his advisers and commanders that will set the military course for the rest of the war.

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“Two stones with one bird”

Since: Oct 09

The Compound

#1 Jun 20, 2011
Looking back, what did we accomplish by staying here 10 years? We could have left years ago and we have achieved the same result. Well, that isn't completely true; we have spent billions more on these ingrates.

“Trump fixing Obama's mess”

Since: Mar 09

& Making America Great Again!

#2 Jun 21, 2011
He's going to send them instead to his other wars in Yemen, Libya, Egypt

Obama = warmongering chickenhawk

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3 Jun 21, 2011
Martyr Machine wrote:
Looking back, what did we accomplish by staying here 10 years? We could have left years ago and we have achieved the same result. Well, that isn't completely true; we have spent billions more on these ingrates.
Well, the Afghans are closer to having a stable gov't that will one day be able to keep themselves from being overthrown ay the warlord with the most guns or the religious whacko with the most bibles or Korans...

“Two stones with one bird”

Since: Oct 09

The Compound

#4 Jun 21, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Well, the Afghans are closer to having a stable gov't that will one day be able to keep themselves from being overthrown ay the warlord with the most guns or the religious whacko with the most bibles or Korans...
I don't think so. It would take a fundamental change in the entire country's mindset to even come close to governing themselves. Virtually every authority figure is a corrupt thief. The government cannot perform even the most basic civic functions. All they have is what we gave them and once we leave that will amount to nothing. There will be a short power struggle and then it will be back to the 1700s again.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#5 Jun 21, 2011
Martyr Machine wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think so. It would take a fundamental change in the entire country's mindset to even come close to governing themselves. Virtually every authority figure is a corrupt thief. The government cannot perform even the most basic civic functions. All they have is what we gave them and once we leave that will amount to nothing. There will be a short power struggle and then it will be back to the 1700s again.
Lot's of countries could say the same thing about all their authority figures being corrupt theives and they seem to be able to govern themselves. Afghanistan was able to govern themselves until three decades of war stripped them of almost everything they had ever attained. it ain't gonna come back in a year or two....

“Two stones with one bird”

Since: Oct 09

The Compound

#6 Jun 21, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Lot's of countries could say the same thing about all their authority figures being corrupt theives and they seem to be able to govern themselves. Afghanistan was able to govern themselves until three decades of war stripped them of almost everything they had ever attained. it ain't gonna come back in a year or two....
I would agree if Afghanistan had the slightest bit of motivation. They would need self determination and a sense of unity as well. However, they have none of that. They seriously have arguments that have stretched for 100s of years over stupid s***. One tribe hates another for (insert random reason). They are happy simply with being left alone.

They don't want to be a country; they want to be tribes in villages.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#8 Jun 21, 2011
Martyr Machine wrote:
<quoted text>
I would agree if Afghanistan had the slightest bit of motivation. They would need self determination and a sense of unity as well. However, they have none of that. They seriously have arguments that have stretched for 100s of years over stupid s***. One tribe hates another for (insert random reason). They are happy simply with being left alone.
They don't want to be a country; they want to be tribes in villages.
You seem to be ignoring the glaring fact that they were a self ruled country until decades of war ravaged them. havbe you heard that before?

“Two stones with one bird”

Since: Oct 09

The Compound

#9 Jun 21, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to be ignoring the glaring fact that they were a self ruled country until decades of war ravaged them. havbe you heard that before?
You seem to be ignoring the fact that both Afghanistan and Pakistan are nothing more than a collection of tribes with the exception being the largest cities exclusively. Pakistan and Afghanistan have autonymous regions. That hardly qualifies as a "government" proper.

Additionally, Afghanistan has been a battle ground for both civil and external wars since they began keeping records. They have had 5 constitutions in less than 100 years.

These people change their minds faster than a fat person at a buffet.

What experience do you have with Afghanis?
Carlos

Antwerpen, Belgium

#10 Jun 21, 2011
All i hear is the voice of the sour & loud minority

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