Soldier Wants Out Of Military Because...

Soldier Wants Out Of Military Because He's Muslim

There are 19 comments on the www.msnbc.msn.com story from Nov 9, 2010, titled Soldier Wants Out Of Military Because He's Muslim. In it, www.msnbc.msn.com reports that:

CLARKSVILLE, Tenn. — About one year after joining the military, Pfc. Naser Abdo decided he wanted out. Fort Campbell officials are not only recommending the military approve that request, they also say he should be honorably discharged.

"My stance with God is more important than my stance with the military," said Abdo, a Fort Campbell soldier who said he's a conscientious objector.

That's why, Abdo said, he can no longer serve in the U.S. military ...

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“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#1 Nov 9, 2010
from msnbc:

"'When I joined the military, I had different views on war. I had different views on what Islam as a religion allowed and did not allow me to do,' said Abdo.

"In fact, Abdo said he would refuse to fight overseas regardless of the punishment.

"'As a man of faith and as a Muslim, I would actually be eager to be incarcerated or court marshaled as opposed to being deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan,' said Abdo.

"In June, Abdo filed a conscientious objector's claim in hopes of getting out of the military, and now he has reason to hope he'll get it. The investigating officer recommended that the military discharge him honorably."

So Abdo gets his GI Bill, VA health care, etc. because the Army is afraid of yet another Maj. Hassan?

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#2 Nov 9, 2010
WHAT???

Ok, he can change his mind about the war, but the frick signed a contract, if the military lets him off the hook it should NOT be with Honor, he doesnt' deserve it. But definitely kick his pathetic butt OUT.

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#3 Nov 9, 2010
You know, when you make a commitment and agree to a contract, you need to keep it.

Muslims think they only need to keep there side of a contract as long as they benefit.

As soon as the negative side comes their way, they feel no commitment to honor their side of the contract.

But then if you honor a slaver and plunder, do you have any honor?
Rotislam

Oxford, UK

#4 Nov 9, 2010
I am not sure if Abdo is from an immigrant family or a convert; but it should be a lesson for stupid Americans to have allowed so many Muslims to settle in your (Christian) country that has a secular constituition.

Now you will see where their true loyalties lie!
Do you want to intern them like what you did to the Japs, Jews, Germans during WW2?

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#5 Nov 9, 2010
Rotislam wrote:
I am not sure if Abdo is from an immigrant family or a convert; but it should be a lesson for stupid Americans to have allowed so many Muslims to settle in your (Christian) country that has a secular constituition.
Now you will see where their true loyalties lie!
Do you want to intern them like what you did to the Japs, Jews, Germans during WW2?
I'm guessing he's a recent convert, otherwise why did he join the military when we've been at war this long with muslims?
If they let this guy have an honorable discharge with no consequences for breaking his word and contract, what on earth does a written agreement and oath mean then?
No internment camps...we just need to be honest about muslims and islam, instead of being fearful of being labeled as bigots or racists if we speak our minds.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#6 Nov 10, 2010
Rotislam wrote:
... Do you want to intern them like what you did to the Japs, Jews, Germans during WW2?
Americans interned Jews during WW II?
Apparently you're getting history from islamic websites.
Rotislam

Oxford, UK

#7 Nov 10, 2010
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Americans interned Jews during WW II?
Apparently you're getting history from islamic websites.
Sorry Joe DeCaro; initially Austrian & German Jews were indeed rounded up & then released when they were deemed not to be a threat. Many went on to serve in the US forces often as interpreter. I think Henry Kissinger is one of them.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#8 Nov 10, 2010
Thanks for the news, Joe.

That was a good decision taken by the young bloke.

He said it well:

"If you feel that being in the military going to war violates your conscience, use this Army regulation because that's what it's here for," said Abdo.

The US is notoriously famous for using and pitting Muslims against Muslims but it is not good to pit an American Muslim against other Muslims, if his conscience does not accept.

I am glad to hear that the army has that kind of clause.

Since: May 08

Rüsselsheim, Germany

#9 Nov 10, 2010
Trisha wrote:
WHAT???
Ok, he can change his mind about the war, but the frick signed a contract, if the military lets him off the hook it should NOT be with Honor, he doesnt' deserve it. But definitely kick his pathetic butt OUT.
Right, discharge him "dishonorably"!

Why cater to Muslim sensititivies? Contract is contract.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#10 Nov 10, 2010
bmz wrote:
... The US is notoriously famous for using and pitting Muslims against Muslims ...
And how does that happen in an all-volunteer US military?

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#11 Nov 10, 2010
bmz wrote:
Thanks for the news, Joe.
That was a good decision taken by the young bloke.
He said it well:
"If you feel that being in the military going to war violates your conscience, use this Army regulation because that's what it's here for," said Abdo.
The US is notoriously famous for using and pitting Muslims against Muslims but it is not good to pit an American Muslim against other Muslims, if his conscience does not accept.
I am glad to hear that the army has that kind of clause.
If everyone person who decided to joined the armed services could just 'opt out' when they felt like it, then there would be chaos. The moron joined the military of his own free will, agreed to the contract and it was only a year ago! What happened to the turd in one year that allows him to breech his contract and have no consequences?

Never mind, BMZ.....those were all questions that are over your head.
Quiet_Dave

Tucson, AZ

#12 Nov 10, 2010
Marie-Luise wrote:
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Right, discharge him "dishonorably"!
Why cater to Muslim sensititivies? Contract is contract.
The military has at least three types of discharges for enlisted personnel: Honorable, Less than Honorable, and Dishonorable.

I'm inclined to think he should be allowed the "Less than Honorable" option, but I have no real inkling of the facts and arguments to judge fairly.

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#13 Nov 10, 2010
bmz wrote:
Thanks for the news, Joe.
That was a good decision taken by the young bloke.
He said it well:
"If you feel that being in the military going to war violates your conscience, use this Army regulation because that's what it's here for," said Abdo.
The US is notoriously famous for using and pitting Muslims against Muslims but it is not good to pit an American Muslim against other Muslims, if his conscience does not accept.
I am glad to hear that the army has that kind of clause.
Thank goodness there are many many American Muslims who have some sense and do not share your pov:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/muslim-soldier-hopin...

As a MUSLIM AMERICAN SOLDIER I am deeply embarrassed by the actions of this soldier. There are thousands of muslims in US armed forces. I do not consider us killings or fighting muslims - we are fighting terrorists and terrorists have NO RELIGION.I am with you WHO SAYS he deserves the harshest and DISHONORABLE discharge.I am against the ones that support him beleiving he is telling the trueth.
A Muslim American Soldier Sep-8

There is no logical reason why a Muslim can not fight another Muslim.Christians fight other unjust Christians.God will understand what everyone is doing.For example in Basnia, the Christians fougth other evil Christians who were slaughtering the Muslims.Christians saved the Bosnian Muslims from evil Christians.The Muslim community needs to learn world history.The Muslim community needs to filter our the evil Muslims.This Muslim in the American Military deserves a court martial.
rgregrowley Sep-2

As an American Muslim, I humbly disagree with him. Notwithstanding some of the insidious Islamophobic comments above, I believe that he should accept deployment to Afghanistan. The Al Qaeda and Taliban terrorists are killing innocent civilians whether they are Muslim or not, bombing mosques and girl schools, throwing acid in the faces of young girls trying to get an education. All of these are against Islam, and as such they qualify as target number one. He should go out and fight these terrorists.who have distorted Islam into something it is not.
Muslim Patriot Sep-2

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#14 Nov 11, 2010
So even other Muslim soldiers think he should be dishonourably discharged.
Good find Trisha.
What do you think now BMZ?
george barnett

Rossville, GA

#15 Nov 11, 2010
Trisha wrote:
WHAT???
Ok, he can change his mind about the war, but the frick signed a contract, if the military lets him off the hook it should NOT be with Honor, he doesnt' deserve it. But definitely kick his pathetic butt OUT.
General discharge.No GI benefits.
simon peter

Winnipeg, Canada

#16 Nov 11, 2010
I bet the looser would stay if America was fighting Israel. He clearly stated he could no longer serve in the US military - He's not a real CO he is only against the US military because they are involved in Muslim countries.

Since: May 08

Buxtehude, Germany

#18 Nov 11, 2010
Trisha wrote:
What happened to the turd in one year that allows him to breech his contract and have no consequences?
He might have read the sites of Al-Shabaab.

Since: May 08

Buxtehude, Germany

#19 Nov 11, 2010
Quiet_Dave wrote:
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The military has at least three types of discharges for enlisted personnel: Honorable, Less than Honorable, and Dishonorable.
I'm inclined to think he should be allowed the "Less than Honorable" option, but I have no real inkling of the facts and arguments to judge fairly.
That would be an option, Dave.

Since: Jul 07

Location hidden

#20 Nov 11, 2010
Whoever is responsible for accepting Naser Abdo in the U.S. Army should be severely punished.

And Naser Abdo should NEVER get an Honorable discharge. Personally, I would prefer he gets a Thankful Discharge (a new cathegory) since the Army will not have to feed and cloth him and, when the time comes, see him run away from battle.

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