Economy to top Obama agenda in Asia

Nov 12, 2009 Full story: CNN 153

U.S. President Barack Obama picked Japan as the first country of his Asia visit.

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Doomed Sheeple

Colorado Springs, CO

#149 Nov 16, 2009
Telmark wrote:
Let me get this right...the U.S. economy is a mess and Obama is in China talking about...now get this...the economy...
Obama needs to start acting like the President of the U.S. rather than some stage light chasing world elitist.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen.
Doomed Sheeple

Colorado Springs, CO

#150 Nov 16, 2009
feawen wrote:
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I had to do a search to find an excellent article/essay that was published in the Philadelphia Inquirer in the early 1990s - "Who Stole The Dream." This should be a must read for people wondering how we got to where we are today and where our jobs went.
This has been an issue close to my heart for many years. When the NAFTA debate was going on in the house, my letter was read on the house floor. Our trade agreements are neither fair nor free. Many of us grew up with the idea, instilled in us by our parents, that if we worked hard, we too could have the "American Dream." I did my part and worked hard, got my B.A., put myself and my children through a lot of hard times and sacrifices for four years(I went to college after my divorce and was a single parent working full time and going to college full time). I did what I was supposed to do, played by the rules, but I didn't count on the betrayal of "my dream" by my elected officials. Five layoffs later and a job making half of what I earned 1 year after college (1985) is certainly a way to get you politically motivated if nothing else!
I foresaw what we are living through today. First it was the factories that closed and blue collar workers got the first hit, then the collars got lighter and my tech job ended up in India.
Along with the factories went the tax revenue that they generated to their states and cities. Workers had to either get lower paying jobs (less tax revenue than good paying jobs), or depend on social services (a drain on revenue). How are our cities and states doing now? Chief Seneca once said "All things are connected..." This is certainly true of the fiscal collapse we see today and the origins that caused it.
I'm not entirely blaming the companies though. When NAFTA was being debated, Gerald Solomon (Republican, NY) said that it would kill Fruit of the Loom just as it had Anchor Hocking earlier. Before NAFTA, the Rose Growers in the South pleaded with congress for protection against the dumping of cheap flowers in this country. They were ignored and now our flowers overwhelmingly are shipped in. Read the Inquirer article, it goes into other companies and industries that tried to stay here... they pleaded and were ignored likewise. And now, as Nadar warned, our country is ruled by a global "tribunal" and can fine us if we try to protect what little industry we have left. Thank you NAFTA, GATT, and all the others that followed... The American worker has been sold out!
So many pray at the altar of "Global Trade" or "Free Trade." Trading is fine as long as we protect our people and industries just as our trading partners are doing. I'm for scrapping the whole "Free" word for "Fair."
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America: Whole Stole the Dream?(Bartlett & Steele)
http://www.barlettandsteele.com/journalism/ph...
Thank you for being so fair here. I appreciate the fact that you didn’t point an accusing finger at one political party over another. Fact is, we have been sold down the proverbial river by politicians in both parties.

We must all ask the question, why do people, when the risks and dangers are so great, both to themselves and their families, resort to revolution? It is because they cannot get any redress to their grievances either through the ballot box or through the Courts. That is where we find ourselves today!

Most citizens do not understand the game being played. We try to understand and reason our way to a legal, peaceful solution – and while we are trying to address and counter arguments and problems in detail and try to lobby our “representatives”, we are overwhelmed by new legislation coming down the pipeline. Our so-called representatives ignore or trivialize letters, petitions, enquiry, etc… because politicians are driving the process!
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#151 Nov 16, 2009
Doomed Sheeple wrote:
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Obviously, you are too brainwashed to know what the hell you are talking about. Good luck with that, Loser. Since there are so many Marxist utopias in this world, why don’t you try one on for size before condemning the rest of us to your totalitarian hell on earth? Why not? Because you are an ignorant loud mouth coward who doesn’t have a clue as to what you’re wishing for.
So, tell me, are the things I mentioned prevalent during your grandparent's youth in the 1950s? Are you going to revise history now, ignorant shit?

Must I, someone who lives in China, TEACH YOU AMERICAN HISTORY?
Doomed Sheeple

Colorado Springs, CO

#152 Nov 16, 2009
feawen wrote:
<quoted text>
I had to do a search to find an excellent article/essay that was published in the Philadelphia Inquirer in the early 1990s - "Who Stole The Dream." This should be a must read for people wondering how we got to where we are today and where our jobs went.
This has been an issue close to my heart for many years. When the NAFTA debate was going on in the house, my letter was read on the house floor. Our trade agreements are neither fair nor free. Many of us grew up with the idea, instilled in us by our parents, that if we worked hard, we too could have the "American Dream." I did my part and worked hard, got my B.A., put myself and my children through a lot of hard times and sacrifices for four years(I went to college after my divorce and was a single parent working full time and going to college full time). I did what I was supposed to do, played by the rules, but I didn't count on the betrayal of "my dream" by my elected officials. Five layoffs later and a job making half of what I earned 1 year after college (1985) is certainly a way to get you politically motivated if nothing else!

I'm not entirely blaming the companies though. When NAFTA was being debated, Gerald Solomon (Republican, NY) said that it would kill Fruit of the Loom just as it had Anchor Hocking earlier. Before NAFTA, the Rose Growers in the South pleaded with congress for protection against the dumping of cheap flowers in this country. protect what little industry we have left. Thank you NAFTA, GATT, and all the others that followed... The American worker has been sold out!

--------
America: Whole Stole the Dream?(Bartlett & Steele)
http://www.barlettandsteele.com/journalism/ph...
Thank you for being so fair here. I appreciate the fact that you didn’t point an accusing finger at one political party over another. Fact is, we have been sold down the proverbial river by politicians in both parties.

We must all ask the question, why do people, when the risks and dangers are so great, both to themselves and their families, resort to revolution? It is because they cannot get any redress to their grievances either through the ballot box or through the Courts. That is where we find ourselves today!

Most citizens do not understand the game being played. We try to understand and reason our way to a legal, peaceful solution – and while we are trying to address and counter arguments and problems in detail and try to lobby our “representatives”, we are overwhelmed by new legislation coming down the pipeline. Our so-called representatives ignore or trivialize letters, petitions, enquiry, etc… because politicians are driving the process!

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#153 Nov 16, 2009
Critical observations are the most powerful and effective weapons.
The economy is showing its ugly face when you go out of your den/dwelling/villa/ or house.
Let us revive with all our might to uphold the holy(or is it nasty) system so that the future generation clean the mess

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#154 Nov 17, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
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The exporting of our industrial base is nothing short of criminal.
There was a story on CNN this morning about a new KIA factory that opened this year in Georgia.
Kia got 43,000 applications for 3,900 jobs!
The mayor reports that the ripple affect of the factory will create many more small businesses and jobs.
Think of what our country would look like today if we still had all the factories that were relocated to China.
The recession would be over here as it is in China and the American middle class would be growing instead of shrinking.
But idiot politicians, educators, journalists and commentators on both sides of the political sprectrum who all claim to be so smart threw our economy away like it was nothing.
Obama gave billions to GM and Chrysler that moved plants to Mexico, Canada and Europe........his actions always speak louder than words.
gossamer

Warren, MI

#155 Nov 17, 2009
Obama wins no concessions from China on points at issue

BEIJING — President Barack Obama on Wednesday wraps up a three-day visit to China that’s left him keenly aware of the limits of his administration’s leverage over this economic powerhouse on issues from currency values to human rights.

Obama holds weaker influence with China than his predecessors did, in part because of U.S. dependence on the Chinese to finance American government debt, and because of a perception in China that the U.S. is troubled and China is ascendant.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/s...

Thanks a lot Obama for making the US look like a begger.

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#156 Nov 17, 2009
But Obama's inheritance is worse than any in history.

He should come back and reshuffle his cabinet before he starts to give a long sermons.
My heart is with him but my critical observation is from my brain
Doomed Sheeple

Colorado Springs, CO

#159 Nov 18, 2009
gossamer wrote:
Obama wins no concessions from China on points at issue
BEIJING — President Barack Obama on Wednesday wraps up a three-day visit to China that’s left him keenly aware of the limits of his administration’s leverage over this economic powerhouse on issues from currency values to human rights.
Obama holds weaker influence with China than his predecessors did, in part because of U.S. dependence on the Chinese to finance American government debt, and because of a perception in China that the U.S. is troubled and China is ascendant.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/s...
Thanks a lot Obama for making the US look like a begger.
Actually, we were beggars before Obama took office. However, it doesn’t appear that Obama plans to CHANGE the status quo.

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#160 Nov 18, 2009
Doomed
To change the so called never ending AMERICAN DREAM and super power fantacy inculcated in the minds of the citizens of USA need another 200 years to see the reality.

No Obma tries hs level best to change the staus quo.

"Subtle but important shifts in global warming positions announced by U.S. & China

"China and the U.S. announced on Tuesday a Joint Statement (available here) and a package of agreed actions on clean energy. This meeting between these two countries that account for around 40 percent of the world’s CO2 emissions from fossil fuels couldn’t come at a more critical time in efforts to secure a strong international agreement to address global warming pollution
We didn’t expect big announcements on the critical issues of specific emissions reduction commitments from the two countries (hopefully that will be outlined in the coming months), but the U.S. and China did agree to some very positive shifts on a couple of fronts. These were subtle, but important, changes in the Chinese position that has occurred over the last year. Having President Obama talking about global warming with China on such frequency and at such a high-level has definitely helped with this shift.
http://www.grist.org/article/2009-11-17-subtl...

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

Since: Jan 08

Rowlett, TX

#162 Nov 19, 2009
gossamer wrote:
Obama wins no concessions from China on points at issue
The masters of any situation do not have to make concessions to the weaker party.

And Obama's stupid economic policies are making America weaker than anyone ever thought possible.
Doomed Sheeple

Colorado Springs, CO

#164 Nov 24, 2009
Ramafuchs wrote:
Doomed
To change the so called never ending AMERICAN DREAM and super power fantacy inculcated in the minds of the citizens of USA need another 200 years to see the reality.
No Obma tries hs level best to change the staus quo.
"Subtle but important shifts in global warming positions announced by U.S. & China
"China and the U.S. announced on Tuesday a Joint Statement (available here) and a package of agreed actions on clean energy. This meeting between these two countries that account for around 40 percent of the world’s CO2 emissions from fossil fuels couldn’t come at a more critical time in efforts to secure a strong international agreement to address global warming pollution
We didn’t expect big announcements on the critical issues of specific emissions reduction commitments from the two countries (hopefully that will be outlined in the coming months), but the U.S. and China did agree to some very positive shifts on a couple of fronts. These were subtle, but important, changes in the Chinese position that has occurred over the last year. Having President Obama talking about global warming with China on such frequency and at such a high-level has definitely helped with this shift.
http://www.grist.org/article/2009-11-17-subtl...
...'Greatest Scandal in Modern Science'

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdeling...

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

Since: Jan 08

Rowlett, TX

#165 Nov 25, 2009
Doomed Sheeple wrote:
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...'Greatest Scandal in Modern Science'
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdeling...
Libs are doing their best to ignore this story and push on with cap and trade anyway.

The emails confirm what man-made-global-warming-doomda y-is-just-around-the-corner skeptics have been saying for 20 years.

The environmtalists are a bunch of lairs motivated by their own greedy monitary interests.

Rather than abandon the unnecessary cap and trade energy tax I expect them push even harder and faster become too many in the public realize they are being conned.

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