Air Force Expansion Could Mean Not-So...

Air Force Expansion Could Mean Not-So-Friendly Skies Over the West

There are 12 comments on the NewWest story from Oct 2, 2010, titled Air Force Expansion Could Mean Not-So-Friendly Skies Over the West. In it, NewWest reports that:

Opposition building to plans for Ellsworth and Canon Air Force bases to launch thousands more low-flying, sonic sorties over ranchland and other "primarily unpopulated" areas of Colorado, Montana, Wyoming, New Mexico, North and South Dakota.

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TyrannyWatch

Mimbres, NM

#1 Oct 2, 2010
Train to keep an eye on the citizens...Homeland Security = American Gestapo.
LCV

AOL

#2 Oct 2, 2010
It is for training purposes. In unpopulated wide terrain to simulate places like Afghanistan.

To spy on citizenry there are vans and SUV's on the roads, in the neighborhoods. Sometimes overhead helicopters, internet providers are wiretapping you according to Obama's order.

Is that plumber in the van with a ladder on top driving by your home several times a day really a plumber?
Looney

Santa Fe, NM

#3 Oct 2, 2010
LCV wrote:
Is that plumber in the van with a ladder on top driving by your home several times a day really a plumber?
toon. More likely a local burgler.
LCV

AOL

#4 Oct 2, 2010
Yeah that too.
free person

Alamogordo, NM

#5 Oct 3, 2010
Obama wants the Goverment to have the right to monitor and shut off the internet, now they are going to fly over us for practice...
Guess when they want to shut us down they will,
TyrannyWatch

Mimbres, NM

#6 Oct 3, 2010
Army embeds active-duty PSYOPS soldiers at local TV stations

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A soldier demonstrates how to use a non-linear editing system used to create broadcasts and public service announcements for the psyops mission at the 4th POG. The photo appeared on the official site of the U.S. Army.


Editor’s note: In 2000, the Dutch daily newspaper Trouw reported on the presence of military personnel from the Third Psychological Operations Battalion at CNN. According to Dutch journalist Abe de Vries, the military personnel were involved in news production at CNN’s newsdesks and this was confirmed by both CNN and the Pentagon. TV Guide reported in April of 2000 that PSYOP personnel were also present at NPR.

The U.S. Army has used local television stations in the U.S. as training posts for some of its psychological-operations personnel, The Upshot has learned. Since at least 2001, both WRAL, a CBS affiliate in Raleigh, N.C., and WTOC, a CBS affiliate in Savannah, Ga., have regularly hosted active-duty soldiers from the Army’s 4th Psychological Operations group as part of the Army’s Training With Industry program. Training With Industry is designed to offer career soldiers a chance to pick up skills through internships and fellowships with private businesses. The PSYOPS soldiers used WRAL and WTOC to learn broadcasting and communications expertise that they could apply in their mission, as the Army describes it, of “influenc[ing] the emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign audiences.”

WRAL and WTOC were on a list of participants in the Army’s Training With Industry program provided to The Upshot in response to a Freedom of Information Act request, and a spokeswoman with the Army’s Human Resources Command confirmed that PSYOPS soldiers worked at the stations.

“Both of those stations are very supportive of the military, and think very highly of the program,” said Lt. Col. Stacy Bathrick.“Our officers are there to learn best practices in terms of programming and production side that they can use when they deploy. To be able to get hands-on interaction with a news station — there’s nothing like that.” Bathrick said the soldiers were never involved in newsgathering.

There's a camp waiting for those who will not submit...

“I'm not nuts. Just different”

Since: Mar 08

Cheswold, Delaware.

#7 Oct 3, 2010
free person wrote:
Obama wants the Goverment to have the right to monitor and shut off the internet, now they are going to fly over us for practice...
Guess when they want to shut us down they will,
Only if we allow them to.
2HeadsSameBeast

Mimbres, NM

#8 Oct 3, 2010
The sheeple will always give up freedom for an illusion of security.

“I'm not nuts. Just different”

Since: Mar 08

Cheswold, Delaware.

#9 Oct 4, 2010
2HeadsSameBeast wrote:
The sheeple will always give up freedom for an illusion of security.
Which leads to my favorite quote.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin

Since: Jan 10

Rio Rancho, NM

#10 Oct 4, 2010
free person wrote:
Obama wants the Goverment to have the right to monitor and shut off the internet, now they are going to fly over us for practice...
Guess when they want to shut us down they will,
After years of the government monitoring our every move, in the workplace, in the bedroom, on the internet, through the "Patriot Act" which people who supported the last president also supported, now NOTHING has been proposed or implemented (such as shutting down the internet) and the very same people who were comfortable with the Patriot Act are spreading urban legends and rumors about stuff that hasnt been done nor will be done. Amazing what ignorance can do if given a voice.
combatpilot

Fort Worth, TX

#11 Oct 4, 2010
People, do you read the articles identifing what the USAF wants to do? This is an article about the USAF establishing new MOA's (military operating areas)for training purposes. It's designed to help improve our military training and defense capabilities. Hell, if New Mexico does not want Cannon AFB, we'll take it in Big Spring, Texas, move it now and we'll fly these low-level, simulated bombing runs over West Texas. I was driving from Clovis to Vaughn one day and saw two B-1 Bombers on low level runs paralleling the highway. It was the highlight of my trip to New Mexico

Since: Jan 10

Rio Rancho, NM

#12 Oct 4, 2010
combatpilot wrote:
People, do you read the articles identifing what the USAF wants to do? This is an article about the USAF establishing new MOA's (military operating areas)for training purposes. It's designed to help improve our military training and defense capabilities. Hell, if New Mexico does not want Cannon AFB, we'll take it in Big Spring, Texas, move it now and we'll fly these low-level, simulated bombing runs over West Texas. I was driving from Clovis to Vaughn one day and saw two B-1 Bombers on low level runs paralleling the highway. It was the highlight of my trip to New Mexico
B-1's arent stationed at Cannon. They are in Abilene, Tex, I believe.

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