Survey: Bad leadership drives soldiers to leave

May 21, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Army Times

Poor leadership is driving soldiers to leave the Army, reinforcing the service's push to make leader development a top priority.

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Mrs Alm

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Thank you, Army Times. I was and am on the receiving end of toxic, bullying and dysfunctional, discriminatory and incompetent Army Officer leadership at U.S. Army Recruiting Command (USAREC) and U S Army Accessions Command (USAAC) and TRADOC. You know, where Lt Gen Donald M Campbell, Jr, just left on Feb 17, 2011, and now where CG MG David L Mann, former Deputy CG is in command? I reported abuse of disabled Army Recruiters with PTSD and disabled Army civil servants. For reporting this, to be expected, I have received nothing but severe retaliation and harassment from the U.S. Army. The IG does not work. EEO does not work. The chain of command does not work. JAG does not work. OWCP does not work. Today I reached out to the President of Notre Dame University, Father John I. Jenkins, who will be hosting the Honorable SECDEF Robert Gates as graduation commencement speaker tomorrow, May 22, 2011, at Notre Dame. Where is the Army's conscience? I have asked Father Jenkins to give the SECDEF a message from me. God bless the U.S. Army, soldiers and family members, and may God help those of us who speak up.
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What an exciting time it is in South Bend, IN right now for the Notre Dame commencement exercises and ceremony with the Honorable Robert Gates as the graduation speaker. I called Notre Dame this morning and the ceremonies have already started. I have no way of knowing if my message was passed on to the SECDEF's staff, so tomorrow I will call the Notre Dame President Father Jenkins to see if it was and I will FEDEX a copy to SECDEF at the Pentagon. The SECDEF is retiring in less than 40 days so this will be my last chance to request an intervention directly from him and his office. The SECDEF and all Army Officers are paid government employees, paid with our taxes. We have the right to request their accountability. The entire USAREC/USAAC/TRADOC/Secretary of the Army chain of command has failed and I will see if the SECDEF's open door policy works. Keep in mind the subject of the Army Times article, and others similar.
Mrs Alm

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I found a resource that may be of assistance. It is called PTSD Foundation of America out of Houston, TX. The website is www.ptsdusa.org . I will contact them to help me publicize these issues. Army Recruiters are supposed to be picture perfect as they are the salesmen for the U.S. Army, but Recruiting Command hides their suicide event statistics unless you have thousands of dollars to buy them with a FOIA request. And bullies those who try to help. There is a report on line named "Assessing Cultural Change in the United States Army Recruiting Command", 30 Mar 2009. It goes so far as to recommend the civilianizing of the 7,500 recruiter jobs because combat vets with PTSD symptoms can struggle with selling and the pressure of selling.(google army recruiter suicides).
Mrs Alm

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Monday, May 23, 2011 - I called the number above like I was instructed. There is a message process where you can indicate the sensitivity level of your call and the level of priority. I indicated high priority but missed the sensitivity botton. I may call back and leave the message again and indicate both "high" sensitivity and "high" priority. I might as well do that to do it right.
Mrs Alm

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As I learned today, the SECDEF is very insulated and protected from inquiries and requests for assistance from the public. As my case has gone on for so long and the issues raised continue, I decided to contact a large U.S. city metropolitan newspaper - that serves my area. First I looked up the newspaper on the internet and found out how to contact the newsroom with a story lead. I sent them an e-mail. Then, I followed up with a phone call to the news leads hotline. The screener answered my call and subsequently referred me to a reporter, so I took his e-mail address and I sent him the story. Now it will be a waiting game to see if this large newspaper will write a story about this debacle I have witnessed and experienced at USAREC, with absolutely no assistance from one single Army Officer. Refer to the Army Times article that led to this thread. Fail.
Mrs Alm

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Today I contacted the President of the PTSD Foundation of America, located in Texas. He told me that the Foundation has a drawing going for a 2011 Chevy Silverado Extended Cab Truck with the proceeds gong to help our PTSD vets and families when the VA and the military lag far behind. Raffle tickets are $10.00 each. The drawing is this Wednesday, May 25, 2011, so buy your raffle tickets now! The finalists will draw the winning ticket on Memorial Day, Monday, May 3OTH. I purchased my ticket already.
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No call or contact form the newspaper reporter this afternoon. No worries. I will call him again tomorrow.
Mrs Alm

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It is early in the morning but I located a magazine that previously reported on aspects of this USAREC debacle. Checking today to see if they are interested in "the rest of the story".
Mrs Alm

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It just takes one. No, it just takes two. You and one witness who cannot be intimidated, I have my witnesses. Now, I need the newspaper or cable outlet to tell my USAREC story. I have located another media outlet and it looks good that they can step up and publicize this ridiculous set of Army circumstances - painful for soldiers and civilians alike. The magazine may still contact me, and the SECDEF's office needs five days before they call back, so maybe I will hear by Friday?
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Today I am back in contact with the national magazine. We will see what we will see. Also, Congress is hearing testimony today about how the VA lets down veterans with mental health issues, per a court order from a federal Judge.
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The steps are incremental and one has to start somewhere with requesting media support. Good news. Today we had a letter published. It is in the on line May Family News edition from Army One Source. You can find it at familynews@myarmyonesource.com .
The top story is entitled, "Dempsey Lays Out Themes as Army Chief". Click on "read more". Read the story, if you choose, and then scroll down to the letters box. Right now you will see one letter form one of my witnesses, dated May 25, 2011, Mrs. Livingston in California. She never dreamed Department of Defense would print her letter but they did. She has reported USAREC to the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) IG for abusing Army civil servants by withholding their rights they are entitled to under the U.S. Merit Systems. We have also reported USAREC to the organization President, Ms. Sue Webster, in Washington, D.C. of "Federally Employed Women" (FEW), which advocates for all women working for the federal government either in the military or as federal civil servants or contractors. FEW has invited me to submit my story for possible publication in their world wide newsletter. Also, regarding GEN Martin Dempsey, the Army Chief of Staff, it is my opinion that President Obama should not elevate him to Chief over the Joint Chiefs. GEN Ray Odiero is now in the running and I recommend that he be selected. GEN Martin Dempsey while he was CG at TRADOC, which is over USAAC and USAREC, these preventable suicides occurred, as well as this severe retaliation against the USAREC whistleblowers. As a member of my chain of command, GEN Dempsey's assistance was respectfully requested with a meeting with him in accordance with his "Open Door Policy". FYI - that "door" was closed.
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This was an interesting day. I heard from the national magazine several times, but of course, no one can foresee what that means. However, for me it did mean that there was another soul in this world besides my witnesses, and outside of USAREC, who understands how the machine works. Whether this unique understanding will materialize into an article remains to be seen. It doesn't seem likely, and improbable at best. But we always have hope.
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It was announced on "Politico" this morning that GEN Martin Dempsey is moving up to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, when he was only elevated to Army Chief of Staff a little over a month ago. The official announcement will come out next Tuesday. Cartright is out - apparently he was not a "team player" with the other Generals according to Government Executive on line this morning. What is a "team player" among Generals? Maybe he will tell us after he retires in August 2011. Does a "team player" keep their mouth shut at all costs? That is what I have seen while I worked at USAREC. The Army encourages you to have "moral courage" and then when you exercise it suddenly you are a pariah. As for GEN Martin Dempsey, there are those who would protest his ascendancy to the "throne" at Joint Chiefs, but their voices are forever silent - they are dead Army Recruiters who committed suicide on his watch. Whichever news outlet picks up my story, they will be able to order via FOIA a copy of USAREC's DoD-Suicide Event Reports going back to 2001. Memorial Day will be soon upon us. These young noble warriors will not be forgotten. This is Thursday - we'll see if Secretary Gates's office calls.
Mrs Alm

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Close but no cigar. The national magazine - if they do run a blurb about my raised issues, I believe it will be done sometime between now and Monday, May 30, 2011, Memorial Day. No call from Secretary Gates's office so I believe that is Pentagon propaganda - that they will even lower themselves to speak to a former civil servant about workplace issues or unresolved issues that an incompetent chain of command failed to address. Remember - this thread is in response to the Army Times article - soldiers (and civil servants) leaving the Army due to failed leadership. After Monday, I will send my article to another empathetic news outlet to see if we can get this story out there.
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Yesterday was a busy day. I made contact with the protesters outside the Fort Hood East Gate, in the "Watchtower". I explained to them how to order Fort Hood's DOD-Suicide Event Reports, going back to 2001. Not only does the report provide numbers of suicides, it indicates the method of suicide and the state of the deceased soldier's social network. No names are released, but the report can show the missed Army opportunities at Fort Hood over the years to address tghe stressors leading to the suicides. The Killeen "Under the Hood Outreach Center and Cafe" has asked me if I would like to be interviewed. The answer is "yes". I may make a trip out to Fort Hood and climb into the "Watchtower" for my future interview broadcast. The chickens have come home to roost for Lt Gen Donald M Campbell and MG David L Mann, of USAREC. All those years driving combat vets/Recruiters..........numbe rs, numbers, numbers! Rest in peace, dear departed Recruiters.
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You are completley correct. Army leadership is at an all time low. The Army officers and senior NCOs are either bullies or idiots. This is the begining of the downfall of the Army. And the way the Army treats civilian contractors overseas is frightening. God help us if they turn that attitude loose on us back in the states.
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I have experienced frightening treatment at the hands of the Army as a DOD civilian contractor as well. An innocent family member and I were having a meal in a restaurant - a recently returned Army military policeman obviously suffering from symptoms of PTSD - shows up - holds us against our will in the restaurant until the local Police arrive to free us. She is transported to the Police station to file a restraining order, he is charged only with "disturbing the peace". The contractor disciplines me via e-mail - blaming me. I file a legal challenge and the Army immediately deploys the mentally ill soldier back to Iraq to avoid stripping him of his military police capacity to carry a weapon and remain in his MOS, plus he is removed from the reach of the law. The DOD contractor settles with me out of court. I agree with you - this is the beginning of the downfall of the U.S. Army. Plus Congress and the President extended the Patriot Act today. Like you, I shudder to think if they turn the attitude that you and I have experienced on the American civilian population. This afternoon I heard again from the protestors outside the East Gate at Fort Hood. I let them know I sent the article about them to a national news magazine reporter with their contact info, and maybe miraculously they will be contacted and their important work reported. Tomorrow is a new day - we shall see what develops in this regard.
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Last evening I sent the Fort Hood "The Watchtower" news tip to the Huffington Post and this morning to Reader Supported News (RSN) reporter Marc Ash. Also, I'm working again with news organizations to obtain Lt Gen Donald M Campbell, Jr's, suicide event history on his "Watch" while on his two assignments at U.S. Army Recruiting Command (USAREC). He had plenty of help on his "Watch", if you can call this help, that of MG Michael X. Garrett, former Deputy CG of USAREC, who racked up extensive air miles hopping around visiting various USAREC Battalions and getting his mug in the newspaper while attending Army Recruiting gigs at ball games, NASCAR, luaus, ribbon cuttings, etc., ad nauseum. There is no evidence that any of his "Battalion hopping" saved one Recruiter/combat vet from suicide. In fact, Garrett is now at Fort Bragg, where the CID could determine no reason for the 10 infant deaths there over the past year.
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It is late Monday night. Tomorrow is a new day. GEN Martin Dempsey, formerly of TRADOC, over USAAC and USAREC, was nominated by President Obama as Chair over the Joint Chiefs today. A speaker during the ceremony stated that the new Joint Chiefs all reflected a combination of "moral courage, etc, etc". Moral courage, GEN Dempsey? To not stop the suicides at USAREC, of our own combat vets? Inside the shopping malls, strip malls, outside in the parking lots in their SUV's? This would really take "moral courage" - do not confirm Dempsey for Chairman - move up Ordierno instead. After all, the Army has on active duty over 400 Generals. Dempsey is not the only General who has been "waiting in the wings".
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On Monday, two letters were published - one in a national newspaper and the other in a national magazine. I thank those readers who supported my points of view. GEN Martin Dempsey was not President Obama's first choice, and hopefully, GEN Dempsey will not be his last and confirmed. I spoke with the protesters at "the Watchtower" out the East Gate today and will check back with them tomorrow. We do not second guess any soldier or vet's request for mental health services. USAREC's overly aggressive recruiting tactics, including waivers, deserves critical review relating to cause and effect on our post deployment Army mental health problems.

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