Discrimination Against Afro Hair in t...

Discrimination Against Afro Hair in the Military

There are 272 comments on the hair.afroglitzmag.com story from Aug 19, 2009, titled Discrimination Against Afro Hair in the Military. In it, hair.afroglitzmag.com reports that:

All over the globe, the military is forcing black women to get rid of their natural hair by straightening/relaxing/wearing wigs. Right now, a black woman is being forced to cut her locs, and straighten/perm the remainder of her afro hair. If not, she will most likely face a discharge. Tell congress to help stop discrimination against natural afro hair in the military by signing the petition here. People should be able to serve in the military and be themselves!

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miss alaska

Cincinnati, OH

#282 Apr 17, 2010
by the way i am going army why didn't you petition for all branches of the military air force is very lenient i would know i'm a air force brat an my mom had a fro

“Just Think...”

Since: Sep 09

New York

#284 Apr 17, 2010
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rattlecattle wrote:
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Slavery is the only COW blacks have to milk....just like Jews milk the holocaust.
Newsflash Dummy....no one owes you anything other than the truth.
You know what? Until you personally go through something traumatic in your life, you will probably always think that way. For the record, I don't have my hand out. I have worked for everything that I have. However, I will say that the past was rough for certain groups of people and I can understand why Blacks and Jewish people are angry. I am angry about the past too because it was wrong, period. I have learned from it though from a cultural point of view. I will never fully understand the pain and suffering that either group has went through because I have not personally experienced it myself and do not wish to have been there, but I will never sit here and act like they do not deserve to mention it, just like I will never expect a rape victim to shut up, either. I have no right, just like I feel you don't have a right.

Some White people get so defensive when Black people bring up the truth. It just irritates you that your ancestors were the last people to screw up doesn't it? Too bad. Such is life. It irritates me that some Black people are still ignorant to the opportunities that are in front of them. Not all of them have these opportunities though but some of the ones that do don't take advantage of them but you know what? Such is life.

There will always be fuckups in history. Don't get mad just because White people were the last ones to do it on a large scale. It's the truth. White people fucked up. I'll say it again... WHITE PEOPLE FUCKED UP and the FACT (yeah I said it) that Black people DID have slaves in the past does not make it any less WRONG that WHITE PEOPLE STILL FUCKED UP. So yeah, Black people, Jewish people, women, homosexuals, Native Americans, etcetera... all of the groups that have ever been oppressed in history have a right to be angry and you know what? Such is life.

As long as we as a people (the oppressed) are doing something to move forward then hey, go ahead and vent if it makes you feel better. Who am I to sit here and complain about it. If you don't like it then don't listen. The truth will still be the truth at the end of the day.

I ask this to people like you as well as those Blacks that you speak of that feel like someone owes then something, what are YOU doing to make things better? If you aren't doing anything then honestly, I don't care to hear anything that YOU OR THEM have to say.

By the way, I am not a dummy so don't get all emotional just because I expressed my opinion on things. It will be okay.

“Just Think...”

Since: Sep 09

New York

#285 Apr 17, 2010
rattlecattle wrote:
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White people never had slaves you dummy....but rich white people did.
So, "rich White people" are different from "White people"? Got it.
rattlecattle wrote:
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Blacks used to SELL other blacks to the slave traders on the coast or did YOU forget?
What does that have to do with White people having slaves? Does that all of the sudden make it right? So if I kill someone, my argument should be that other people in the world have killed before? Cool. I never said that all Black people were good, by the way, so don't think that you bringing up a negative in Black peoples' pasts makes what White people did in the past look any less horrible. Newsflash: it doesn't.
rattlecattle wrote:
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You need to thank the slave traders every day because without them your great grandparents would have starved to death in the hell hole called Africa and YOU would not exist.
That is definitely not going to happen. Instead I will thank my ancestors (and the White people that helped them) for showing strength and fighting throughout the years to give me the benefits that I enjoy today as an American citizen who happens to serve the country that I live in, which I choose to do because those same slaves that you speak about built this country with their blood, sweat and tears just as much as those White slave owners shaped it with their lies.

History happened. We can't change it but don't expect me to forget it, either. Either way, I live here and don't plan on moving. Now with that being said, since we (Black people) are here, and have been for years, I do think that we (all Americans) should focus on fixing this big race issue in the states and take some of this money that we spend on other countries (hmmm, money that they pay people like me to go overseas to fight for freedom and equality) and put it back into our own communities (in the United States) and once we fix our own problems in our inner cities and rural areas then we can focus on other countries (Africa included). Now is that going to happen? Probably not. But I try to contribute to that cause on a small scale in my own life everyday.
rattlecattle wrote:
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Today's arrogant african americans should put up a statue to the slave traders.....their ticket out of hell.
Confess....does velcro really scare you?
That's just an ignorant comment and I really don't know what your point is with that. By the way, my username is "Marine Currently Serving In The Army". Have you seen our uniforms lately? Does velcro really scare me? What do YOU think?
rattlecattle wrote:
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I am not a racist....I like blacks on my NFL team and besides I don't even own a race car.
You make me laugh but not because you're a comedian. I really could care less whether you are racist or not. Your thoughts and feelings about me as a Black Woman are not going to make me lose sleep either way. Go on and be who you really are because apparently someone in the universe feels that you are here for a reason...
NonWhiteWomenRul e

Toronto, Canada

#286 Apr 17, 2010
istherehope4 wrote:
just another way of stripping black people of their identity, anything that doesnt promote white eurocentric ideology is unacceptable to them. Black people you cant be who you are only what they want you to be in the army.
Europeans are having their racial and cultural identity attacked / stolen in Europe. Happens to everyone.

God bless Black butts.

Since: Jun 09

Scrotum, Idaho

#287 Apr 18, 2010
Thought Afros went out of style about 30 years ago.

“Just me”

Since: Dec 08

london

#288 Apr 18, 2010
istherehope4 wrote:
just another way of stripping black people of their identity, anything that doesnt promote white eurocentric ideology is unacceptable to them. Black people you cant be who you are only what they want you to be in the army.
If u are in the army you have to follow their rules.If they dont want afro then dont wear an afro.If u cant accept it then leave the army.
Nikki

Detroit, MI

#289 Feb 10, 2011
It is a huge deal. Most often, African Americans are the ones with the kinky, coarse or coily hair. There are females who do not want to relax their hair and should not have to. This is our natural state. As long as it is neat in appearance and headgear is worn properly, then I see no issues with an Afro. I am a female officer, and my hair is natural. I totally support the natural. I can wear my beret properly. But I carry a pick with me to make my hair neat and professional when I remove my beret. Sometimes the hair gets messed up when you have to put the beret on and take it off all of the time. And for the most part, it IS a black thing. That doesn't mean we are racist, it just means that we are the ones who have this grade of hair and should not be forced to make it straight if we don't want to. There is no where in the army regulation that says a female cannot have natural hair.
Proud female sailor

San Diego, CA

#290 Jul 31, 2011
I love how people always say that women get pregnant or are lazy. What about the men who get on limdu, or the guys who sit around talking about boobs, booty, etc. with the upper chain so they can get out of work. How about the fellows who also use the family care plan dilemma to get out?

It doesn't matter what gender or race a person is. It all boils down to character.

Don't automatically place me in a group just because I am a woman. I have served 13 yrs. Had my first child on shore duty, and I was still treated like a dirt bag while I was pregnant. It is never a good time for a woman to start her family. However, guys can go plant seeds left and right.

If you don't want to be in the military with women, then get out, buddy. I am here to stay.
Proud female sailor

San Diego, CA

#291 Jul 31, 2011
George Burnett wrote:
<quoted text>Hela gets group lumps then because the Brass won't enforce standards and discipline.The NCO's and commanding officers are afraid it will cost them a promotion.They are,of course,absolutely right.Real discipline of female troops would end a man's military career.The old "she say,he say";and as we all know,a woman would never lie.
I love how people always say that women get pregnant or are lazy. What about the men who get on limdu, or the guys who sit around talking about boobs, booty, etc. with the upper chain so they can get out of work. How about the fellows who also use the family care plan dilemma to get out?

It doesn't matter what gender or race a person is. It all boils down to character.

Don't automatically place me in a group just because I am a woman. I have served 13 yrs. Had my first child on shore duty, and I was still treated like a dirt bag while I was pregnant. It is never a good time for a woman to start her family. However, guys can go plant seeds left and right.

If you don't want to be in the military with women, then get out, buddy. I am here to stay.
lah

San Francisco, CA

#292 Apr 11, 2012
good converation...my daughter is in the air force and currently in tech school. she is african american and wears her hair closely cropped (1/4 inch in length when cut; she gets a haircut once per month). she does not straighten her hair. this is too short for regulation. the regs say 1 inch minimum. must she grow her hair out? she looks very professional with closely cropped hair.
Diplomat

Wareham, MA

#293 Oct 8, 2012
lah wrote:
good converation...my daughter is in the air force and currently in tech school. she is african american and wears her hair closely cropped (1/4 inch in length when cut; she gets a haircut once per month). she does not straighten her hair. this is too short for regulation. the regs say 1 inch minimum. must she grow her hair out? she looks very professional with closely cropped hair.
Unfortunately, she'll probably come across someone who will tell her to grow her hair to the 1 in. minimum. I'm a black AF officer and I too wore a closely cropped hairstyle...I was directed a couple of months ago to grow my hair out. It sucks, but it's the rule. I've actually been looking for ways to petition this rule. I plan to deploy one day and I would love to just get my hair clipped and keep it moving. I love being natural, but I hate the extra time that goes into the upkeep. Plus, as you stated, a caesar is one of the most professional hairstyles!

The AF wants its women to look feminine, but most of the women who cut their hair super short have the feminine faces to pull it off. I know I did.

Just my two cents and experience with this. I wish your daughter the best of luck!
The truth

Dallas, TX

#294 Jan 4, 2013
JohnnyFiddler wrote:
<quoted text>If dreadlocs are "natural state", you freaking MORON....then WHY does it have to be "DONE"?
You people couldn't tell the truth about ANYthing if was tatooed backwards on your forehead and a mirror was surgically attached to your noses.
Some how i have this belief that the hair will "naturally" lock on its.. Thats my belief though or you could look it up and find the same info young man. FOH

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