anyone been to incirlik base in turkey?
friend of fallen

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#104 Nov 16, 2010
KDR wrote:
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Howie,
It was at Pirinclik Air Station, not Incirlik. I worked there at the time. Dante worked on the other shift. I don't remember the woman's name.
Her name was Margaret Joanne Cartwright...she was a TSgt in the USAF, posthumously promoted to MSgt and awarded an MSM. She had a son and a sister, who took care of him.
friend of fallen

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#105 Nov 16, 2010
Howie wrote:
I am trying to find out some information regarding the homicide of a female sargent while at the Incirlik base approximately 1992 / 1993. She was killed by her fiance, Dante Ventresca, who was employed by General Electric (now Lockheed Martin).

KDR wrote:
Howie,
It was at Pirinclik Air Station, not Incirlik. I worked there at the time. Dante worked on the other shift. I don't remember the woman's name.

KDR and Howie, her name was Margaret Joanne Cartwright and she was a TSgt in the USAF. She was good people and a lot of fun. Tragically taken from us and her son way so early in life.
Howie

Phoenix, AZ

#106 Nov 17, 2010
Thank you so much for responding. I hadn't checked this for a long time thinking I wouldn't get a response. I'm actually Dante's ex-wife (before Joanne). I had a daughter with Dante & divorced him after 3 yrs.- physical abuse being one of the main reasons. After his return to the states, he damaged any chances of a relationship with his daughter by hurting her emotionally on various occassions. She's always wanted to know what happened but his family won't discuss it with her. We would appreciate any information you could give us or a way to contact someone who may be able to help us. I feel I know what may have happened due to my experiences with him but I feel she needs to find out for sure - especially since she met her and her son when Dante took them all on vacation.

I heard that her sister had gone to Turkey to speak for Joanne at one of Dante's court appearances. She brought a letter that Joanne had written her just two wks prior to her death, telling her how in love she was and that they would soon be married, etc. She tried to drive the point home that this wasn't a woman who wanted to kill Dante as he was claiming that he killed her in self-defense. I wish she had gotten ahold of me. I was told very little from his family and have been finding things out here and there throughout the years.

I'm sure she was a good person and it's an absolute tradegy that her son had to grow up without his mother while Dante has been allowed to remarry and even have another child. I feel sorry for his other child! Thank you again for replying and I hope my reply finds you. Please email me at [email protected] Thank you.
Go TURKEY

Turkey

#107 Dec 8, 2010
Truth about the Turkeyyyy!!! Listen up!!! You most likely had a bad childhood, and no one likes you around. Everything you post has racist comments and none of them are true. Only people you visited here probably the ones you deserve to be with. If you had good education, good family or a brain, you would not be making these comments. Turkish people has something you don't have: PRIDE..
Go TURKEY

Turkey

#108 Dec 8, 2010
MORE TO TRUTH ABOUT TURKEY: I am an American, my American baby was neglected by AMERICAN CDC. Right now I have a Turkish nanny that I am happy with. It is true that there are some bad nannies around, but if Americans hire them and allow to be in their home, that's not Turk's fault. You should keep your nasty thoughts to yourself. I am really curious about would you be able to make these comments about the african american people you live with? I bet not..Stop doing what you are doing and apologize!!!
the truth about Turkey

Warrensburg, MO

#109 Dec 10, 2010
Go TURKEY wrote:
MORE TO TRUTH ABOUT TURKEY: I am an American, my American baby was neglected by AMERICAN CDC.

Yeah, right. The CDC has standards and surveillance, Turkish nannies have neither. By the way, your grammer is abhorent. Is English your first language?

Right now I have a Turkish nanny that I am happy with.

Good for you.

It is true that there are some bad nannies around, but if Americans hire them and allow to be in their home, that's not Turk's fault.

So, whose fault is it? The American who took the chance? If that's true, then isn't there a chance YOUR child could have been abused, or are you "too smart" for that?

You should keep your nasty thoughts to yourself.

And YOU shouldn't criticize people who merely have a different opinion and a different perspective, you hypocrite.

I am really curious about would you be able to make these comments about the african american people you live with? I bet not..

What do African American people have to do with Turks? Do you consider the Turks to be a minority on the base, and you're wondering how I treat minorities? How do you even know what my ethnicity is? Do you ever read what you write, or do you just let it spill out of your brain, leaving a mess for the poor people who stumble across your meaningless babble?

Stop doing what you are doing and apologize!!!
Never. It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it, however "mean" and "unfair" it may be. Maybe you should do us all a favor and stay in Turkey; become a citizen. If it's so great there, then that shouldn't be a problem.
the truth about Turkey

Warrensburg, MO

#110 Dec 10, 2010
Go TURKEY wrote:
Truth about the Turkeyyyy!!! Listen up!!! You most likely had a bad childhood, and no one likes you around.

OH NO! NO ONE LIKES ME!? THIS IS AWFUL! YOU HAVE HURT ME! OW! OW!

Everything you post has racist comments and none of them are true.

They weren't racist comments. I offered my opinion. If all opinions were favorable, then that would mean SOMEONE was lying because NOTHING is perfect. Intelligent people take the good with the bad. People like you get offended over any little negative comment. Why should anyone believe you? You offer no proof of your experience in Turkey; just insults (to me). And you don't even know me. What does that say about you?

Only people you visited here probably the ones you deserve to be with. If you had good education, good family or a brain, you would not be making these comments. Turkish people has something you don't have: PRIDE..

Gee, let me see if there's a way to respond to your nonsense in an equally nonsensical fashion.....
Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Clause. Unfortuanely you've been an ignorant little b*0tch who enjoys deriding complete strangers on the internet instead of learning to agree to disagree and present your opinion in a clear and coherent manner. NO SOUP FOR YOU.
comments posted, see "dialogue" above
the truth about Turkey

Warrensburg, MO

#111 Dec 10, 2010
My opinions on Turkey will not change, no matter how many times someone posts a comment about how much they love Turkey, how rudely I'm behaving to their beloved Turks or how much of a jackass they think I am for having an opinion. It's an OPINION, you slanderous Cretan. If you don't share it, and it's SOO important that everyone agree with YOU, then give some valid evidence WHY my comments are flawed. Many people have, and their comments are refreshing to read; whereas yours are remniscent of an ignorant, belligerent simpleton.
Dave

Henderson, NV

#112 Dec 29, 2010
Tim wrote:
I was a dependent around 63-65. Incirlik was one of the best places we lived. I am still captivated by this crossroads of human history. When you live in this area you are in the middle of ancient civilizations. the people were good to us, curious mostly, why would Americans drive out to some village, and climb to the top of a mountain to look at old ruins.
Tim did you happen to know a girl named Flo? I have been trying to find out what happened to her I think she went somewhere in Texas.
I too climbed to the top of a mountain to look at the ruins, and went to the beach to see more ruins. It was a great assignment.
anonymous

United States

#113 Jan 25, 2011
the truth about Turkey wrote:
My opinions on Turkey will not change, no matter how many times someone posts a comment about how much they love Turkey, how rudely I'm behaving to their beloved Turks or how much of a jackass they think I am for having an opinion. It's an OPINION, you slanderous Cretan. If you don't share it, and it's SOO important that everyone agree with YOU, then give some valid evidence WHY my comments are flawed. Many people have, and their comments are refreshing to read; whereas yours are remniscent of an ignorant, belligerent simpleton.
Are you at WAFB?
vax2

Apopka, FL

#114 Jan 29, 2011
It is INCIRLIK. I was there when it was still considered a Common Defense Installation....also know as ICDI. I got there two days after the Shaw of Iran fled his country to go to Haiwai. I was there when the hostages were taken in IRAN and when Pres Carters sttempted rescue went wrong and USA military people died. I was a very tense and bad place when I was there. One day I was riding my bicycle to the Post Office and a Turkish man rode past me on his scotter and he kicked me and my bike to the hard paved road. There was a C-130 that crashed less than 5 mile from the runwayas the plane tried to land. My Squadron was on the schedule for "clean up" of any crashes. The plane had been full with 27 people on board. I saw the crushed and damaged and dead bodies of some of my friends that were on board. So........a persons opinion of the base in Turkey is based on when they were stationed there and everyone is free to tell they opinion.
friend of fallen wrote:
Howie wrote:
I am trying to find out some information regarding the homicide of a female sargent while at the Incirlik base approximately 1992 / 1993. She was killed by her fiance, Dante Ventresca, who was employed by General Electric (now Lockheed Martin).
KDR wrote:
Howie,
It was at Pirinclik Air Station, not Incirlik. I worked there at the time. Dante worked on the other shift. I don't remember the woman's name.
KDR and Howie, her name was Margaret Joanne Cartwright and she was a TSgt in the USAF. She was good people and a lot of fun. Tragically taken from us and her son way so early in life.
the truth about Turkey

Warrensburg, MO

#115 Jan 30, 2011
vax2 wrote:
It is INCIRLIK. I was there when it was still considered a Common Defense Installation....also know as ICDI. I got there two days after the Shaw of Iran fled his country to go to Haiwai. I was there when the hostages were taken in IRAN and when Pres Carters sttempted rescue went wrong and USA military people died. I was a very tense and bad place when I was there. One day I was riding my bicycle to the Post Office and a Turkish man rode past me on his scotter and he kicked me and my bike to the hard paved road. There was a C-130 that crashed less than 5 mile from the runwayas the plane tried to land. My Squadron was on the schedule for "clean up" of any crashes. The plane had been full with 27 people on board. I saw the crushed and damaged and dead bodies of some of my friends that were on board. So........a persons opinion of the base in Turkey is based on when they were stationed there and everyone is free to tell they opinion.
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Thanks for telling about your experience. There are far too many who think they know everything associated with this seemingly peaceful place. I'd like to share a website with you: http://www.actforamerica.com . Thank you for serving in the military. I can't imagine what you've experienced (while serving), but please know that I appreciate what you've done from the bottom of my heart. Thank you!
the truth about Turkey

Warrensburg, MO

#116 Jan 30, 2011
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you at WAFB?
Why would I tell a stranger on the internet my location? Especially when most of these people seem hostile. It's a shame when you can't even express an opinion without being ridiculed or insulted.
Wendy

San Antonio, TX

#117 Feb 4, 2011
Your son should be ok. Incirlik is a very small base and is very well protected. My husband and I just got back from Turkey. We were there for two years.It was beautiful.The people are great! Very hospitiable too.
One great bit of advice,learn to speack the language and all will be fine. It will be somewhat difficult at first but, once you catch on the locals will love you and respect you for attempting to learn their language. Tekrar Gurushuruz! Turkish for, See you later!
George Watson

Oakland, CA

#118 Feb 7, 2011
Hi,

My father was stationed there from Feb 65 to June 67.

I was looking at the Base on Google Earth and very little
of it, save the Runways look familiar.

I remember that we went to school 4th - 6th in Quonsehuts
that were separated from the K - 3 and 7-9th school by
about a half a mile.

It looks like they built brand new housing.

The only thing I recognised besides the runways was
the Base Pool, which I assume they did not move.
The Golf Course looks the same.

I don't remember the Turkish, if that is what it is,
housing so close to the base.

It was a great place to be a kid.
Save you missed out on American TV and the latest news
and rock n roll - we always seemed a month behind.

I enjoyed going down to Taursus and Mersin and visiting
the Roman/Byzantine ruins.

George Watson
Arthur Moore

Chicago, IL

#119 Feb 8, 2011
I was stationed in incirik afb it was a unique and enlightening tour the Turks are some of the most passionate people I've ever met warm loving people with giving spirits I had an adventure I will never forget. Gule Gule
Audrey Ellis

Fayetteville, NC

#120 Apr 1, 2011
We were statoned at Incirlik AB from 1997-1999. We took about children over and even the family dog. We had a wonderful two years there. Have some of our best memories of the Air Force. It is the best kept secret of the Air Force...Incirlik. It will depend on his job...what his hours of work are. But all personnel will have free time/ time off. Most everyone goes outside the gate to the village...to the resturants. Food is WONDERFUL!! Shopping is GREAT. Security is good...better than many US cities. We traveled all over the country!! I drove often. We made some wonderful friends in the village also. Our sons would love to go back to Incirlik. We even had Email back in 1997. So you can email him...just need to get that email address. Please do not worry...it is a great place.
DMarie wrote:
Hello! My boyfreind is being stationed in a Turkey Air Force base, he just graduated from basic camp. I haven't heard much about it from him, so I want to know what life is like on the base. He said he can't fly planes or anything since he wears glasses. I want to know if he will be safe and what he may have to do. I really wish he'd tell me but I have no idea when he will contact me since the timezones are so different. So I also need to know about what kind of free time he may have for contacts please, if anyone knows. Thanks!:)
The Truth about Tukey

Newport, KY

#121 Apr 2, 2011
We were statoned at Incirlik AB from 1997-1999.
It's 2011. If you talk to someone who is stationed in Turkey right now, they will tell you that Turkish customs have delayed all of the fresh food and (since it spoiled while sitting in customs) the commissary shelves are void of fresh produce, meat, eggs, bread etc. It's been this way for several weeks. This isn't exactly new (who knows how much it costs DECA) but it's not right; and it's the worst I've heard so far. Let's add to that the fact that the majority of the population is Muslim and a prominent Turkish leader just called for the country to return to the days of the Ottoman Empire and a desire to strengthen their ties with Iran. No more secular government. But who cares?! I'm sure I'll be called a bigot and a racest by most of you. So I guess no one cares. We can all just be thrilled that that our friends and family members are in Turkey. The people are REALLY nice. And um, there's this great food off base. What more could you want? Yeah. Sit back, turn a blind eye to all that BORING NEWS CRAP and statistics that show what the population and it's leaders really think about all you kuffers. Go catch a movie. Look forward to the NEW life like drama "Institution of Iron Fisted Rule by Sharia Law and Extermination of the Kuffers" at an area surrounding a Turkish base near you!
George Watson

Oakland, CA

#122 Apr 2, 2011
AIRSTREAM wrote:
was stationed at Incirlik from 1965 to 67 with Det. 114- APRON. One of the best assignments of my career.
My father, Col Watson was with Det 50
I am trying to remember what duties Det 114
had.
I enjoyed it there very much as a kid
baseball games to plat and softball games to watch.
I looked at pictures of the base on Google Earth and barely recognised it.
Dorothy

Mineola, TX

#123 Apr 14, 2011
Howie wrote:
I am trying to find out some information regarding the homicide of a female sargent while at the Incirlik base approximately 1992 / 1993. She was killed by her fiance, Dante Ventresca, who was employed by General Electric (now Lockheed Martin).
She was my sister! I don't know what made me do it but I just typed her name in tonight and I found your post. I would be interested in anything you can tell me. After he was sentenced, I let it go because it was eating me up.

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