Military age discrimination should be...

Military age discrimination should be outlawed.

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Discrimination

Chicago, IL

#1 Jan 17, 2011
1. If you can pass the physicals and test you should be able to enlist in the military at any maximum age.

2. Age restriction to become a Officer should without a doubt be outlawed.

3. Any prior service member should not be turned away from joining the national guard, or Reserve forces, because of maximum age or time break in service.

4, Prior service enlisted personal should never be restricted from becoming an officer or re-enlistment.
Still qualified

Lincoln, NE

#2 Jan 17, 2011
Discrimination wrote:
1. If you can pass the physicals and test you should be able to enlist in the military at any maximum age.
2. Age restriction to become a Officer should without a doubt be outlawed.
3. Any prior service member should not be turned away from joining the national guard, or Reserve forces, because of maximum age or time break in service.
4, Prior service enlisted personal should never be restricted from becoming an officer or re-enlistment.
I agree if you can do the job why discriminate. If you have the college degree, physically fit you should be allowed to join the military or be an officer. There should be no maximum age limit if you can prove you can do the job. They’re astronauts who are over sixty years old who have went into orbit into space which proves there are good qualified people who can do complex jobs. This discrimination stuff by the United States military is wrong and needs to stop.
James

United States

#3 Jan 18, 2011
If I want to age discriminate in my business the feds would ream me a new A whole. Obama says he’s trying to create more jobs well why doesn’t he start by stopping age discrimination in the government?
the train

United States

#4 Jan 18, 2011
James wrote:
If I want to age discriminate in my business the feds would ream me a new A whole. Obama says he’s trying to create more jobs well why doesn’t he start by stopping age discrimination in the government?
Your absolutely right if a personal business owner discriminated for age they would be in big trouble. The military and a lot of police departments discriminateall the time. The military should not get away with doing this.
Morgon

United States

#5 Jan 19, 2011
The federal government is the largest age discriminatory employer in the United States. All federal law enforcement agencies and the military discriminate.
Discrimination

Chicago, IL

#6 Jan 20, 2011
I am prior service and tried to get back into the service and they said I was to old. I am 51 years old, so I guess I will go get on welfare and sponge off the State since they won’t let me work.
Jason

Apo, AE

#7 Sep 22, 2011
I have two bachelor degrees but missed the age cut off to become an officer. I am 42, physically fit, and can do the job as an officer. Why is there an age cut off, do they seriously think I would be unable to pass Officer Training School? I would like to take my case to the ACLU and file a claim against the Government for discrimination. They need to show some historical justification/precedence for choosing a cut-off age for becoming an officer. I think the Government should open it up on a case by case basis. As it is, I find myself in better shape and of better mind then some of the officers I have worked with.
Noagediscriminat ion

Fort Wayne, IN

#8 Dec 4, 2011
Its get's worse. There are a lot of current civilian jobs that REQUIRE prior military experience(not equal academic or civilian experience but Military experience). This age discrimination issue has been voiced in several places and to date no one has been able to explain to me how I as a 43 or 44 year old am less capable for entry and service when there are 50 year old's serving in the current military. Worse those inside the service parrot ridiculous arguments as if we are asking them a favor when we are in fact demanding basic rights denied under stupid regulations that were in past used to keep minorities and women out. In time this will change, a pity we are denied an opportunity to serve and to benefit from the programs(educational etc.) they take for granted right now.
Finally, a nation's descent into fascism begins with idolatory of its military as the Romans, and later the Japanese, Italians and Germans discovered. US Soldiers are simply servants of its will not architects of its ideals. If I wish to serve my country, the artifice of laws that protect the privileges of those already in should not be allowed to keep me out if I can prove I am as able bodied as those in service. The laws of the nation must reflect its commitment to abolishing discrimination. This is the shameful last bastion.
Noagediscriminat ion

Fort Wayne, IN

#9 Dec 4, 2011
I will add. Recently as I was getting on a flight I was startled to see that the airline required even those who had paid for first class tickets and women and children to wait until all active duty military had boarded. There were about 2 or see, only 1 in uniform. I looked around and at least 10 other clearly out of uniform military opted to board waiting their turn. As I stated earlier this was an example of mindless idolatory (in contrast to vietnam era's mindless denunciation). Neither are good, our soldiers are servants of the people, an all volunteer military(well they weren't during vietnam) that are compensated for their service. Putting them on a pedestal and vesting such privileges through discrimination and red tape is completely counter to the spirit this nation was founded on, of transparent and accountable democracy to, by and for the people.

Why in heavens name a better democracy, a better America etc. is being created is baffling. If I am unable to secure a job because of the declining economy(the only thing not shrinking is the military budget and the mandate that now includes targeting Americans on American soil for perceived not proven behavior) how do the politicians think I will pay the taxes that pay for all the benefits and shiny hardware ? Isn't this fundamentally flawed thinking? Are we unpatriotic for not quietly allowing our gradual disenfranchisment ?
Hello

Mattoon, IL

#10 Jul 19, 2013
Sick of Age Discrimination! It should be abolished!
MVA

Beverly Hills, CA

#11 Mar 4, 2014
So what are we going to do about this?
Stephen Crowe

New York, NY

#12 Aug 2, 2014
Jason wrote:
I have two bachelor degrees but missed the age cut off to become an officer. I am 42, physically fit, and can do the job as an officer. Why is there an age cut off, do they seriously think I would be unable to pass Officer Training School? I would like to take my case to the ACLU and file a claim against the Government for discrimination. They need to show some historical justification/precedence for choosing a cut-off age for becoming an officer. I think the Government should open it up on a case by case basis. As it is, I find myself in better shape and of better mind then some of the officers I have worked with.
Um I would like to comment on this. I am turning 35, meaning I am still 34 headed to 35. A few years ago though around 31 32 I was thinking of trying out to become a officer. When I made a query, after a few weeks I got a generic letter from some general in the army saying thank you for my interest, but it appeared after review that I was past the age cut off. Now grant you, I can't say that a 19 18 year old is not more youthful than me. I mean they are in a way. However I am also a avid rock climber now, and have been swimming for years and I don't feel that I am physically unfit at all, if anything I am gradually getting stronger. So to you sir, being 42, even as I approach 35, I must seem young to you, and when I tried to get in around 32, you must have thought I was still very young. I don't agree entirely with the cut off being I believe is 29 to start out as a officer but let me give you at least one other explanation, to see if this makes sense. Most people starting ROTC for example are 18, meaning they are done and ready to be a officer at 21 22 years of age. You being 42, I bet (though it's not said), people feel weird that the guy above the starter officers, some commander is the same age as one of the recruits? I think it is also a retirement issue. I believe the army (as a officer) has a mental age at which officers are suppose to be out of the service for two reasons. One (due to the fact there are limited slots for officers compared to the troops) and another reason that accepting officers at say young middle age, which break apart this formula, as you might then or a crop of people in your age category might expect to retire at a much later date than the military has planned?
Stephen Crowe

New York, NY

#13 Aug 2, 2014
One last thing, when I applied not only did I have a B.A. for years at this point, I was about finished or had graduated with my masters degree.
Stephen Crowe

New York, NY

#14 Aug 2, 2014
So what do I do now, as my old field due to the recession I blame mostly, and also bad luck, I do not do anymore, which was archaeological work.
I am a professional extra. I get paid well, but I do not feel it's a career. Furthermore I find it funny that in the movie in6028dustry I can play a 25 year old or 20 year old college student but for certain jobs I put what I've done, and immediately I'm seen as too old not yet 35.
jjg

Mill Valley, CA

#15 Aug 6, 2014
I realize this is a very old string however, in case anyone else lands here, I wanted to add that the age discrimination practiced by the military may have other components. Top on my list of suspicion is the fact that the part of the human brain that inhibits risky behavior is not fully developed until the age of 25-28. What this means is once this part of our brain is fully matured, we are better equipped to access risk. Maybe the age thing is because once we're a bit older, we're not so moldable and will think twice before doing something really stupid that could kill us. The men and women of desired age range for enlistment do not have this ability.
Discrimination wrote:
1. If you can pass the physicals and test you should be able to enlist in the military at any maximum age.
2. Age restriction to become a Officer should without a doubt be outlawed.
3. Any prior service member should not be turned away from joining the national guard, or Reserve forces, because of maximum age or time break in service.
4, Prior service enlisted personal should never be restricted from becoming an officer or re-enlistment.
Matt

Alpharetta, GA

#16 Jan 17, 2015
You guys are right. I am 31 years old in elite physical condition and I was turned away from signing a SEAL contract because their official age cutoff is 28. It's pretty rediculous that you'd take an 18 yr old who is no where close to being fully matured physically or mentally and not take a 29-30 yr old. Someone should educate the military about when the athletic prime is for athletes. It's 28-32.
Ranger Material

Henderson, NV

#17 Aug 16, 2015
The military does not discriminate due to gender, sexual preference, religious beliefs, race, etc. but does discriminate due to age which a direct violation towards a specific group of United States Citizens. I am a 52 year old physically fit male who has made his living in the construction trade. My qualifications to enlist, just a summery, include Scuba Diver, Skydiver, Parachute Rigger, SL and Halo/Haho jumper, rock climber, numerous survival schools, numerous navigation and tracking schools, and the list goes on. The fact that I have to compete with a younger man that has NO experience compared to what I'm bringing to the table is insulting. The sooner the military ends age discrimination the sooner we will have a stronger nation. Good luck finding a younger man that has as much mental discipline as I have. Also, now 2 females are just days away from completing Ranger Training which I think is great because ANYONE who can complete the mission should have the opportunity, ANYONE!
Juania

Woodbridge, VA

#19 Mar 18, 2016
Jason wrote:
I have two bachelor degrees but missed the age cut off to become an officer. I am 42, physically fit, and can do the job as an officer. Why is there an age cut off, do they seriously think I would be unable to pass Officer Training School? I would like to take my case to the ACLU and file a claim against the Government for discrimination. They need to show some historical justification/precedence for choosing a cut-off age for becoming an officer. I think the Government should open it up on a case by case basis. As it is, I find myself in better shape and of better mind then some of the officers I have worked with.
I agree, in WWI & II many enlisted and officers were over the age of 40 and did a hell of a job. I am in the same boat as you are. If you can pass all the tests then why not? When a wounded soldier comes back he/she has to take a physical test to make sure they can do the job. How is that fair? The DoD is not in EEOC compliance, and that is shameful
Andrew Dans

Campbell River, Canada

#20 Apr 10, 2016
We have the congress and senate being run by old men and women who are in early stages of Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's! At the same time these old Geezers are willing to send these young kids to die, but are not willing to allow men and women to join the military in their 40s and 50s! It's a disgrace! Hank Kleeman was 38 years old when he gunned down an Su-22 fitter in 1981! Robin Olds was kicking butt as a dogfighter in his mid 40s! Dale Snodgrass is probably over 60 years old now, but I bet you he can still outfly a young nugget F-18 kid today! It's time to stop age discrimination! We have people in their 80s telling people in their 40s and 50s they are too old! What s joke!

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