Syria warplanes bombard Baba Amr

Mar 13, 2013 Full story: News24 90

A general view taken in February 2013, shows destruction in the Baba Amr neighbourhood of the central Syrian city of Homs.

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mxlplx

United States

#63 Mar 16, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
What I was trying to get across was that some of the blogists on this forum seem deeply unhappy with their country.
Damn right. Any country that runs up a 16 trillion dollar debt and then spends a trillion of it fighting the muslim fanatics that it originally empowered in Afghanistan and now wants to repeat the idiocy in Syria, needs a serious talking to.
rtloder

Sydney, Australia

#64 Mar 16, 2013
The other thing is its only recently imperialism got some competition. Before the 90s the developing world was the wealthy West's prerogative to exploit.
That's why corruption in the West is an open and shut case.
People who can make demands inevitably get paid.Them that can't don't.
I like everybody else don't see how "not" having the capacity to come up with the cash in a situation of stagnant economy and fiscal restraint will evade upheaval.
After all that's what started Arab Spring.
If as I suspect civilization is ending (Nations working together for a common cause) then the advocates for tightening up are in the right.
rtloder

Sydney, Australia

#65 Mar 16, 2013
Assad was never brutal compared to the alliance of the willing. And now the alliance is even worse they don't use their own soldiers any more they open up the prisons and arm the criminals.
Next they will turn the worst criminal loose Israel.
Syrian

New London, CT

#66 Mar 17, 2013
mxlplx wrote:
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Damn right. Any country that runs up a 16 trillion dollar debt and then spends a trillion of it fighting the muslim fanatics that it originally empowered in Afghanistan and now wants to repeat the idiocy in Syria, needs a serious talking to.
And don't forget the 7,000 young American lives lost in these idiotic wars!
check it out

Brisbane, Australia

#67 Mar 17, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
What I was trying to get across was that some of the blogists on this forum seem deeply unhappy with their country.
Thats your problem,you think anyone who criticizes the Criminal acts of their Country's Politicians is in some way a traitor,on the contrary they are the real Patriots.
The realtiy is that you can criticize the'criminal acts of politicians', as long as you want, IN THIS COUNTRY.

The question is, could you try that stunt and criticize say....Asssad's regime in his country?
Chilean

United States

#68 Mar 17, 2013
I tried to criticize Washington's ally Pinochet years ago and my entire family disappeared. Then all their friends disappeared but I managed to escape.

Then I moved to Guatemala and tried to criticize Washington's ally Rios Montt and the entire village where I was staying disappeared. Then all the neighboring villages disappeared.

I don't know much about Syria though.
Chris

Toronto, Canada

#69 Mar 17, 2013
Chilean wrote:
I tried to criticize Washington's ally Pinochet years ago and my entire family disappeared. Then all their friends disappeared but I managed to escape.
Then I moved to Guatemala and tried to criticize Washington's ally Rios Montt and the entire village where I was staying disappeared. Then all the neighboring villages disappeared.
I don't know much about Syria though.
Assad is not Washington's ally!
Oliver Cromwell

Liverpool, UK

#71 Mar 17, 2013
check it out wrote:
<quoted text>
The realtiy is that you can criticize the'criminal acts of politicians', as long as you want, IN THIS COUNTRY.
The question is, could you try that stunt and criticize say....Asssad's regime in his country?
I am not Syrian CLOWN and niether are you, so its not any of your business what can and can't be said in Syria just like its not Syrian business what can be said in yours,it isn't rocket Science.
CIA

United States

#72 Mar 17, 2013
Chris wrote:
<quoted text>
Assad is not Washington's ally!
Exactly! Therefore, he must die.
Historian

United States

#73 Mar 17, 2013
This whole mess started in 1953 with the US led coup in Iran.
Democracy

United States

#74 Mar 17, 2013
The US always supports democracy, except when it becomes problematic. Then it turns to fascists because they can always be bought.

Mohammad Mosaddegh was the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran from 1951 to 1953 when his government was overthrown in a coup d'Etat orchestrated by the British MI6 and the CIA.

An author, administrator, lawyer, prominent parliamentarian, he became the prime minister of Iran in 1951. His administration introduced a wide range of progressive social and political reforms such as social security, rent control, and land reforms. His government's most notable policy, however, was the nationalization of the Iranian oil industry, which had been under British control since 1913 through the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC / AIOC)(later British Petroleum or BP)

Mosaddegh was removed from power in a coup on 19 August 1953, organised and carried out by the CIA at the request of the British MI6 which chose Iranian General Fazlollah Zahedi to succeed Mosaddegh.
CIA Analyst

United States

#75 Mar 17, 2013
We acted in the 50's in Iran and created the Islamic Revolution twenty years later.

We acted in the 80's in Afghanistan and created al Qaeda's revolutions twenty years later.

If we act in Syria now, we figure we've got twenty years before any serious blowback and I'll be retired and on a good pension by then.

We're always thinking here at HQ.

Oliver Cromwell

Preston, UK

#76 Mar 17, 2013
CIA Analyst wrote:
We acted in the 50's in Iran and created the Islamic Revolution twenty years later.
We acted in the 80's in Afghanistan and created al Qaeda's revolutions twenty years later.
If we act in Syria now, we figure we've got twenty years before any serious blowback and I'll be retired and on a good pension by then.
We're always thinking here at HQ.
So it will be your Kids and Grandkids that get blown to pieces in the local shopping Centre.
CIA Analyst

United States

#77 Mar 17, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
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So it will be your Kids and Grandkids that get blown to pieces in the local shopping Centre.
Who cares? We'll be working for the Chinese by then anyway. I'm training my kids to pull a coolie cart and lay railroad ties. I figure what goes around comes around eventually.
check it out

Brisbane, Australia

#78 Mar 17, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
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I am not Syrian CLOWN and niether are you, so its not any of your business what can and can't be said in Syria just like its not Syrian business what can be said in yours,it isn't rocket Science.
Yeah your right. Let the Syrians kill each other. It's none of my business that genocide occurs in a foreign country. We can sit back and watch massacres on TV, like in Rwanda and say who cares? Afterall, its none of my business. We can then talk about it on forums like this, for years after the event.
Oliver Cromwell

Preston, UK

#79 Mar 17, 2013
check it out wrote:
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Yeah your right. Let the Syrians kill each other. It's none of my business that genocide occurs in a foreign country. We can sit back and watch massacres on TV, like in Rwanda and say who cares? Afterall, its none of my business. We can then talk about it on forums like this, for years after the event.
Problem with you people is you are very selective about what your business is,tell me when the South African Apartheid Nazis were on a rampage through Southern Africa you didn;t make that your Business,Palestinians have been slaughtered and cleansed for sixty years,that doesn't seem to be your business,as for Genocide your Country took part in Genocide in Vietnam,as far as Syria goes its under attack from outside powers who have made it their business to support head hacking Jihadist nutters like they did in Bosnia and Libya.
George

United States

#80 Mar 17, 2013
check it out wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah your right. Let the Syrians kill each other. It's none of my business that genocide occurs in a foreign country. We can sit back and watch massacres on TV, like in Rwanda and say who cares? Afterall, its none of my business. We can then talk about it on forums like this, for years after the event.
So, it seems you're concerned then about the genocide (it's the proper definition) of alawites and christians by these foreign jihadis. Good for you.
check it out

Brisbane, Australia

#81 Mar 17, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
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Problem with you people is you are very selective about what your business is,tell me when the South African Apartheid Nazis were on a rampage through Southern Africa you didn;t make that your Business,Palestinians have been slaughtered and cleansed for sixty years,that doesn't seem to be your business,as for Genocide your Country took part in Genocide in Vietnam,as far as Syria goes its under attack from outside powers who have made it their business to support head hacking Jihadist nutters like they did in Bosnia and Libya. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =JWUjgSmrN7YXX
Problem with you people is that you too, are very selective about what is your business. North Korean famine(was it around a million who recently starved to death there?) Gulags in Soviet Union (how many were involved there- for how many years?). Persecution in Iran. Cultural revolution in China- apparently many millions died there). You guys supported Pol Pot with his year zero philosophy until communist Vietnam invaded, and then you would have had to change sides.(bit of a quandry there).
Ethiopia? Thats alright because mengistu was a communist. So automatically supported him there, just as the Kremlin did.
I could go on. The easy thing about communists is that you know instantly their views on anything political. Thats because they ALL think the same. I can predict in advance all communists, because they do not allow any other theory, opinion or options. The right of politics has a broad range of views, of which some I do not agree with. But on the right, freedom of views is encouraged.
Chris

Toronto, Canada

#82 Mar 17, 2013
check it out wrote:
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Problem with you people is that you too, are very selective about what is your business. North Korean famine(was it around a million who recently starved to death there?) Gulags in Soviet Union (how many were involved there- for how many years?). Persecution in Iran. Cultural revolution in China- apparently many millions died there). You guys supported Pol Pot with his year zero philosophy until communist Vietnam invaded, and then you would have had to change sides.(bit of a quandry there).
Ethiopia? Thats alright because mengistu was a communist. So automatically supported him there, just as the Kremlin did.
I could go on. The easy thing about communists is that you know instantly their views on anything political. Thats because they ALL think the same. I can predict in advance all communists, because they do not allow any other theory, opinion or options. The right of politics has a broad range of views, of which some I do not agree with. But on the right, freedom of views is encouraged.
North Koreans wouldn’t starve if the U.S. would not force the world to keep them under constant severe sanctions, just as your country keeps Cuba under sanctions ever since it was established. There are no persecutions in Iran. As for Gulags, China’s revolution, and similar, your interpretation of history is distorted, with agenda in mind; and these are indeed the internal affairs. Policies of your country are so self serving, vicious, and often illegal, that nobody can benefit from your country’s involvement. Your country has borders, may be you can learn that, and start minding your own business.

You must be joking saying that the Right has diversity of views. How can you have diversity, when you think that your interpretation is the only true one; therefore that the Right is always right?
check it out

Brisbane, Australia

#83 Mar 17, 2013
Chris wrote:
<quoted text>
North Koreans wouldn’t starve if the U.S. would not force the world to keep them under constant severe sanctions, just as your country keeps Cuba under sanctions ever since it was established. There are no persecutions in Iran. As for Gulags, China’s revolution, and similar, your interpretation of history is distorted, with agenda in mind; and these are indeed the internal affairs. Policies of your country are so self serving, vicious, and often illegal, that nobody can benefit from your country’s involvement. Your country has borders, may be you can learn that, and start minding your own business.
You must be joking saying that the Right has diversity of views. How can you have diversity, when you think that your interpretation is the only true one; therefore that the Right is always right?
Back to that 'minding your own business' line again. When it suits your political side. In that case, we will now no longer discuss Israel again. After all, it is a soveriegn nation, it too has borders. It can do what it likes. You will not interfere, or have an opinion, if Israel decides to defend itself against, say, Syria or Hezbollah, in the future, as we should all mind our own business. I doubt you would allow Israel to do anything, without you people screaming and joining street rallies.
If the West is so evil, how come there are queues of people to enter or join? Meanwhile in NK "worker's paradise", they build walls to stop people voting with their feet.
What an embarrassment to be associated with such regimes as NK.

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