With deadline looming, White House details cuts

Feb 25, 2013 | Posted by: Mr_Bill | Full story: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com

Food safety inspections, early education classrooms and mental health treatment are all at risk if massive forced spending cuts are allowed to take effect at the end of this week, the White House said Sunday.

Those cuts would accompany deep reductions in defense spending - including stalling maintenance on Navy ships - that are also poised to trigger March 1. In detailed reports for all 50 states and the District of Columbia, President Barack Obama's budget office spelled out how the cuts - which are the result of a stalemate between Congressional Republicans and the White House over reducing the federal deficit - will affect localities, putting the stakes of the budget debate in stark terms as Congress returns to Washington after a week-long break.

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Feb 26, 2013
 
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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My recuiter told me I could get stationed in Scotland anytime I wanted; all I had to do was ask. Should I sue because it turns out we didn't have any bases in Scotland and I was too ignorant to know that?
You obviously DON'T know what you're talking about, or you wouldn't have said lifetime healthcare was in every enlistment contract you signed.
Ignorance is no excuse. The govt can change the terms of our service at any time; that WAS in our contracts.
Military retired pay & benefits are better than ANYTHING you will find ANYWHERE else in America- public or private.
It was and that is why we are unable to get a copy of it. I have requested copies of my enlistment contracts and the DOD has provided me with every other piece of paper in my SRB except for my enlistment contracts which I had requested. I was having a problem with my back and needed a copy of my original enlistment health check up. According to my original health check up is was 6' 2" tall I am now 5' 10 1/2 " tall and I have never had any surgery on my back. When this whole mess first began I was one of the first to sign on believing the DOD would release a copy of my original enlistment contract. Boy was I wrong. Several of us even when as far as to place the request using the Freedom of Information Act and still the DOD refuses to release a copy or our original enlistment contracts. One of our members had a copy of his original enlistment contract and the court rejected it because it was a copy and not an original which of course the DOD was refusing to release.

Yes the promise of free health care for life is written into our original contracts only it is impossible to get the DOD to release an original while our copies are inadmissible in the court.

It is a catch 22 and we are screwed AGAIN.

That is like the numb nuts who said we enlisted so we are asking for whatever we get and do not deserve our disability compensation. There was a draft when I enlisted. I really didn't have very many choices. It was either enlist or go in the Army and I did not want to go into the Army. Yes I received my Draft Notice while in Marine Boot Camp.
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Feb 26, 2013
 
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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No one is forcing you to accept Medicare. You are free to turn down Medicare and pay for you own medical care when you turn 65.
Freedom of choice.
Why am I not surprised at the deflection response you posted? I said nothing about being "forced", nor did I say anything about Medicare.

What is said was, you were advocating socialism/communism when you suggested physicians and hospitals should be forced to take federal government social medicine, in this case Obamacare, or be unable to get a license to provide medical care.

If you look at the stats on who owns hospitals today, you will find the vast majority are owned by the same physicians and private hospital groups you want to put out of business if they don't knuckle down to the demands of socialism. Would it surprise you to know that less than 20% of the existing hospitals today are run by any form of government? And the government run medical facilities are on the decline to be almost non-existent by 2030.

Maybe this fact there is a decline is rubbing liberals, socialist, communist, and social engineers a little raw. So you advocate "force" to do something to retain control over the losses, right?
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Feb 26, 2013
 
hey bama, howzbout cuts in foreign aid and stop sending billions to you muzzie brudderhood pals in libya, syria, egypt ???? try that first, then ask if there is more cuts needed.

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Feb 27, 2013
 
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It was and that is why we are unable to get a copy of it. I have requested copies of my enlistment contracts and the DOD has provided me with every other piece of paper in my SRB except for my enlistment contracts which I had requested. I was having a problem with my back and needed a copy of my original enlistment health check up. According to my original health check up is was 6' 2" tall I am now 5' 10 1/2 " tall and I have never had any surgery on my back. When this whole mess first began I was one of the first to sign on believing the DOD would release a copy of my original enlistment contract. Boy was I wrong. Several of us even when as far as to place the request using the Freedom of Information Act and still the DOD refuses to release a copy or our original enlistment contracts. One of our members had a copy of his original enlistment contract and the court rejected it because it was a copy and not an original which of course the DOD was refusing to release.
Yes the promise of free health care for life is written into our original contracts only it is impossible to get the DOD to release an original while our copies are inadmissible in the court.
It is a catch 22 and we are screwed AGAIN.
That is like the numb nuts who said we enlisted so we are asking for whatever we get and do not deserve our disability compensation. There was a draft when I enlisted. I really didn't have very many choices. It was either enlist or go in the Army and I did not want to go into the Army. Yes I received my Draft Notice while in Marine Boot Camp.
Nope, more lies.

I HAVE copies of ALL my enlistment/reenlisment contracts, and NO WHERE does it say I was entitled to lifetime healthcare.

NO WHERE.

What it DOES say is the contract is subject to change by the military without notice or recourse.

Why do you insist on continuing with your obvious ignorance/lies?

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Feb 27, 2013
 
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Why am I not surprised at the deflection response you posted? I said nothing about being "forced", nor did I say anything about Medicare.
What is said was, you were advocating socialism/communism when you suggested physicians and hospitals should be forced to take federal government social medicine, in this case Obamacare, or be unable to get a license to provide medical care.
If you look at the stats on who owns hospitals today, you will find the vast majority are owned by the same physicians and private hospital groups you want to put out of business if they don't knuckle down to the demands of socialism. Would it surprise you to know that less than 20% of the existing hospitals today are run by any form of government? And the government run medical facilities are on the decline to be almost non-existent by 2030.
Maybe this fact there is a decline is rubbing liberals, socialist, communist, and social engineers a little raw. So you advocate "force" to do something to retain control over the losses, right?
I don't care what you call it.

Doctors should not be able to refuse ANY insurance coverage, whether govt or private.
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I don't care what you call it.
Doctors should not be able to refuse ANY insurance coverage, whether govt or private.
I agree with Silence is Golden. Doctors spend a hell of a lot of time and money, in med school and internship to become doctors. And hospital groups invest huge sums of money putting together a community health care system. You would take all that away just because they refuse to give their services away, or deal with insurance companies who get free money in premiums, then invest that money for profit, not health care practitioners or facilities.

Point, list the locations of a Champus or Social Security Medicare/Medicaid hospital? List the location of any health insurance carrier owned hospital? You will be hard pressed to find any. Why? They know they would lose money and are not interested.

Your approach has been tried already and failed. It has also been tried in other professions and failed. Just ask the school teachers of America what your approach has done to them, education, and our children.

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I agree with Silence is Golden. Doctors spend a hell of a lot of time and money, in med school and internship to become doctors. And hospital groups invest huge sums of money putting together a community health care system. You would take all that away just because they refuse to give their services away, or deal with insurance companies who get free money in premiums, then invest that money for profit, not health care practitioners or facilities.
Point, list the locations of a Champus or Social Security Medicare/Medicaid hospital? List the location of any health insurance carrier owned hospital? You will be hard pressed to find any. Why? They know they would lose money and are not interested.
Your approach has been tried already and failed. It has also been tried in other professions and failed. Just ask the school teachers of America what your approach has done to them, education, and our children.
No one has to "give their services away"; they just wouldn't be able to charge $100 for a bandaid or $5000 for an xray.

There is a difference between making a profit and ripping off patients. Our current system promotes the latter.

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Nope, more lies.
I HAVE copies of ALL my enlistment/reenlisment contracts, and NO WHERE does it say I was entitled to lifetime healthcare.
NO WHERE.
What it DOES say is the contract is subject to change by the military without notice or recourse.
Why do you insist on continuing with your obvious ignorance/lies?
When did you enlist?
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No one has to "give their services away"; they just wouldn't be able to charge $100 for a bandaid or $5000 for an xray.
There is a difference between making a profit and ripping off patients. Our current system promotes the latter.
I have never seen a charge of $100 for a band aid or $5000 for an x-ray. MRI's are expensive, but not x-rays.

And if the services are a ripoff, I would suggest you ask the insurance companies why they would approve a claim for such high charges? I certainly will not pay that find of charge or fee out of my pocket.

And it is a known given in the health care industry that if a doctor or private owned hospital, even a county or city hospital, serves indigents, they raise the cost of those who have insurance or that can pay cash for medical services, to narrow the gap in the loses suffered in services to the indigents.

I would suggest you take the blinders off as to who is the culprit in the quest for bad socialized medicine. There is nothing wrong with profiting from a service or product. There is something wrong with the "re-distribution" of it to people who are unwilling to contribute a better society.

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When did you enlist?
I orginally enlisted in the 80's and served Gulf War I.

My brother enlisted in the 70's and served in Vietnam.

My uncle enlisted in the 50's and served in Korea.

My grandfather enlisted in the 30's and served in WW II.

My great-grandfather enlisted in the 1900's and served in WW I.

Another great-grandfather enlisted in the 1890's and served in the Spanish American war.

My great-great-grandfather enlisted in the 1870's.

2 of my great-great-great-grandfathers enlisted in the 1850's and served in the Civil War; one on each side.

My great-great-great-great-grandf ather enlisted in the 1820's.

My great-great-great-great-great- grandfather served in the Revolutionary War.

I have copies of all their enlistment/service contracts as part of my genealogy. NONE of them say ANYTHING about free medical care for the rest of their lives. Though my g5-grandfather was given 80 acres of land in what would become Tennessee in return for his service in the Revolutionary War.

In addition, another of my g5-grandfathers served in the French & Indian wars in the 1760's, but there are no records available other than the notation on his tombstone.

In addition, 4 of my ancestors served in the Prussian military.

In addition, my nephew is currently serving with the Marines.....

Yes, I come from a long line of military service, and only one of them was killed in action (WW II, battle of Leyte).

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I have never seen a charge of $100 for a band aid or $5000 for an x-ray. MRI's are expensive, but not x-rays.
And if the services are a ripoff, I would suggest you ask the insurance companies why they would approve a claim for such high charges? I certainly will not pay that find of charge or fee out of my pocket.
And it is a known given in the health care industry that if a doctor or private owned hospital, even a county or city hospital, serves indigents, they raise the cost of those who have insurance or that can pay cash for medical services, to narrow the gap in the loses suffered in services to the indigents.
I would suggest you take the blinders off as to who is the culprit in the quest for bad socialized medicine. There is nothing wrong with profiting from a service or product. There is something wrong with the "re-distribution" of it to people who are unwilling to contribute a better society.
Which is exactly why we need Medicare for all as an option. You should be able to choose to enroll in Medicare at any age or get coverage through your employer or pay for private insurance yourself or pay for your healthcare out of pocket.

Give people the option and see what they choose. No one is forced to enroll in Medicare right now, yet 99% of Americans do the day they turn 65; gee, I wonder why that is?

TriCare DOES set the maximum they will pay for any procedures/medications. I find it hilarious/sad when I look at my billing and realize that without my insurance I'd have paid $2500+ for an MRI, but the govt only allowed them to charge $250- of which I was responsible for just $25.

Making a profit is one thing; gouging sick people who have no choice is profiteering.
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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I orginally enlisted in the 80's and served Gulf War I.
My brother enlisted in the 70's and served in Vietnam.
My uncle enlisted in the 50's and served in Korea.
My grandfather enlisted in the 30's and served in WW II.
My great-grandfather enlisted in the 1900's and served in WW I.
Another great-grandfather enlisted in the 1890's and served in the Spanish American war.
My great-great-grandfather enlisted in the 1870's.
2 of my great-great-great-grandfathers enlisted in the 1850's and served in the Civil War; one on each side.
My great-great-great-great-grandf ather enlisted in the 1820's.
My great-great-great-great-great- grandfather served in the Revolutionary War.
I have copies of all their enlistment/service contracts as part of my genealogy. NONE of them say ANYTHING about free medical care for the rest of their lives. Though my g5-grandfather was given 80 acres of land in what would become Tennessee in return for his service in the Revolutionary War.
In addition, another of my g5-grandfathers served in the French & Indian wars in the 1760's, but there are no records available other than the notation on his tombstone.
In addition, 4 of my ancestors served in the Prussian military.
In addition, my nephew is currently serving with the Marines.....
Yes, I come from a long line of military service, and only one of them was killed in action (WW II, battle of Leyte).
they were a bunch of ph ag crossdressers who worked behind the lines letting the real men die for the cause. They lived and dreamed to suk peniz of the menzees in the old trailers in every woodtick military generation as they knew the scum low life they were. and you continue the tradition well. You troll to much. Like a dik sukr at a truk stop...u be there...
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Feb 27, 2013
 
Wonder why the status media hasn't reported on the 100's of illegals (criminals) being released back into the population even though the cuts haven't even taken place yet. ALso, ICE is no longer allowed to arrest illegals unless they have committed a crime. Who does this hurt? The american people. Does he care? NO!
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Which is exactly why we need Medicare for all as an option. You should be able to choose to enroll in Medicare at any age or get coverage through your employer or pay for private insurance yourself or pay for your healthcare out of pocket.
Give people the option and see what they choose. No one is forced to enroll in Medicare right now, yet 99% of Americans do the day they turn 65; gee, I wonder why that is?
TriCare DOES set the maximum they will pay for any procedures/medications. I find it hilarious/sad when I look at my billing and realize that without my insurance I'd have paid $2500+ for an MRI, but the govt only allowed them to charge $250- of which I was responsible for just $25.
Making a profit is one thing; gouging sick people who have no choice is profiteering.
I don't agree with enrollment in Medicare at any age. If you work for a paycheck you are already contributing to Social Security, which funds Medicare and SSI. This is beside funding a ton of federal Government debt.

And I would like to see proof that your insurance only paid $250 for an MRI, and you paid $25. So far all I have read is where you throw out these outrageous medical cost in dollars, but have yet to back those numbers up as one poster requested. That's creates a credibility gap between you and many of the posters here I would imagine.

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noargument wrote:
Wonder why the status media hasn't reported on the 100's of illegals (criminals) being released back into the population even though the cuts haven't even taken place yet. ALso, ICE is no longer allowed to arrest illegals unless they have committed a crime. Who does this hurt? The american people. Does he care? NO!
How does not arresting people who haven't committed a crime hurt the American people?

One would think that ARRESTING people who haven't committed a crime would be more harmful to the American people.

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I don't agree with enrollment in Medicare at any age. If you work for a paycheck you are already contributing to Social Security, which funds Medicare and SSI. This is beside funding a ton of federal Government debt.
And I would like to see proof that your insurance only paid $250 for an MRI, and you paid $25. So far all I have read is where you throw out these outrageous medical cost in dollars, but have yet to back those numbers up as one poster requested. That's creates a credibility gap between you and many of the posters here I would imagine.
I'm not sending you a copy of the bill, so you'll just have to get over it. Google the cost of an MRI; depending on who does it and what is being scanned, the costs range from $1000-$5000. I had an MRI on my hip and the bill came to just a bit over $2500 with all the doctor & radiologist fees; TriCare only authorized $250, and my co-pay for that was $25.

I was actually pleasantly suprised that's all I owed.

If you have insurance, look at any medical procedure they have paid for; you'll see they also negotiated a lower price than what the hospital/doctor would normally charge for uninsured patients.

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I don't agree with enrollment in Medicare at any age. If you work for a paycheck you are already contributing to Social Security, which funds Medicare and SSI. This is beside funding a ton of federal Government debt.
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Btw, social security taxes pay for social security; medicare taxes pay for medicare. Just look at your paystub sometime (assuming you work).

What is wrong with offering Medicare to all? Are you afraid everyone would sign up if given the chance, just like 99% of everyone currently over age 65?

Isn't it amazing how everyone supposedly hates "socialized medicine" and yet they immediately sign up for it the day they turn 65.

Maybe they don't realize the govt is running it?

I loved all the old geezers on Medicare the GOPasaurs trotted out demanding the government keep their hands off our healthcare! The irony obviously escaped them.

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I don't care what you call it.
Doctors should not be able to refuse ANY insurance coverage, whether govt or private.
In a perfect world; but many insurance companies make doctors jump through hoops, and still not pay what they are due.

This would be good, if insurance companies paid off quickly, with no hassles.

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Mr_Bill wrote:
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In a perfect world; but many insurance companies make doctors jump through hoops, and still not pay what they are due.
This would be good, if insurance companies paid off quickly, with no hassles.
Something Congress could easily take care of- if they weren't in the pockets of the insurance industry.....

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