Multiple people killed in Washington Navy Yard shooting

There are 20 comments on the Sep 16, 2013, The Miami Herald story titled Multiple people killed in Washington Navy Yard shooting. In it, The Miami Herald reports that:

Police and emergency crews gathered outside the Naval Sea Systems Command Headquarters building in Washington, D.C., where several people were killed and others have been injured.

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kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#1 Sep 16, 2013
I hold the gun industry thugs at NRA responsible. They are criminals because of their complicity in all of America’s mass murders.
William Joyce KVK1

Burnsville, NC

#2 Sep 16, 2013
kuda wrote:
I hold the gun industry thugs at NRA responsible. They are criminals because of their complicity in all of America’s mass murders.
Why don't you do the world a favor, go to the dollar store buy some clothesline and use it to hang yourself.
SNJ

Arendal, Norway

#3 Sep 16, 2013
William Joyce KVK1 wrote:
<quoted text> Why don't you do the world a favor, go to the dollar store buy some clothesline and use it to hang yourself.
Are you - rude as you sound - believing that there is no connection between US gun laws, US attitudes to gun permits AND the mumerous mass shootings within the USA?
You are regarded as the most naiv people on this green earth - and you prove it every day year after year through people with attitudes
and verbal behavious like yours.
It is not the President of the USA who has the power in your strange nation. And I thin that is endlessly sad, knowing so many fine Americans as I do - without influence on all the narrow minded making the useful majority of idiots within the US.....unfortunately.
You are beyond repair over there I'm afraid.....and tens of thousands of innocent people have to die every year because of that.
Mongol Man

Fallbrook, CA

#4 Sep 16, 2013
I am waiting for the prez to proclaim,"If I had a son he would look like Aaron Alexis".
Toby

Portland, OR

#5 Sep 16, 2013
I am all for getting assault weapons banned, but the problem is even if that is accomplished there would be millions of assault weapons still floating around. Plus many people who commit crimes with firearms don't legally purchase those weapons in the first place, many times the weapon is either directly stolen in a burglary, bought from a friend who has stolen the weapon, or bought locally from a gun ad in a magazine or a newspaper.

Also most all deaths by firearms in America is suicides anyway, and those firearm related deaths are nine out of ten times committed by a handgun not an assault weapon. In 2010 there were 30,470 firearm related deaths in America, of that total number 19,392 of those deaths were suicides by firearm.

That is 63 % of all firearm related deaths in America are suicides by firearms. Assault weapons don't make up even 2 % of those firearm related suicides. Out of the total 30,470 firearm related deaths in 2010 , assault weapons were used in less than 2 % of all firearm related deaths both suicides and homicides.
William Joyce KVK1

Burnsville, NC

#6 Sep 16, 2013
SNJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you - rude as you sound - believing that there is no connection between US gun laws, US attitudes to gun permits AND the mumerous mass shootings within the USA?
You are regarded as the most naiv people on this green earth - and you prove it every day year after year through people with attitudes
and verbal behavious like yours.
It is not the President of the USA who has the power in your strange nation. And I thin that is endlessly sad, knowing so many fine Americans as I do - without influence on all the narrow minded making the useful majority of idiots within the US.....unfortunately.
You are beyond repair over there I'm afraid.....and tens of thousands of innocent people have to die every year because of that.
Stick to what goes on in Sweden, we don't tell you what to do, so don't tell us what to do. Every morning I'll strap on my Colt, just like they did in Dodge City.
Mongol Man

Fallbrook, CA

#7 Sep 16, 2013
SNJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you - rude as you sound - believing that there is no connection between US gun laws, US attitudes to gun permits AND the mumerous mass shootings within the USA?
You are regarded as the most naiv people on this green earth - and you prove it every day year after year through people with attitudes
and verbal behavious like yours.
It is not the President of the USA who has the power in your strange nation. And I thin that is endlessly sad, knowing so many fine Americans as I do - without influence on all the narrow minded making the useful majority of idiots within the US.....unfortunately.
You are beyond repair over there I'm afraid.....and tens of thousands of innocent people have to die every year because of that.
Excuse me genius, but before you write my country off, you might mention the douche who murdered a whole bunch of people in Oslo a few years back. Norwegian moron.
Toby

Portland, OR

#8 Sep 16, 2013
Just remember the Virginia Tech killings,Seung Cho killed 32 people using two handguns with extended clips, a Glock and a Walther P22. It doesn't take an assault weapon to kill a large number of people, plus like I accentuated earlier , most all firearm related deaths are by handguns not assault weapons.

School Massacres and other massacres committed by assault weapons (as horrible as they are) even make up a smaller amount of the total number of firearm related deaths in America than does just the number of assault weapons related deaths, which represent less than three percent of all firearm related deaths.

School Massacres and other massacres committed by assault weapons make up less that 1/10th of 1 % of all firearm related deaths. The reality with these types of massacres in which assault weapons are used is they get sensationalized by the media and they get national news coverage for weeks and weeks.

The 1/10th of 1 % of all gun related deaths will get 99 % of the media attention . How many times will you turn on the news and have them inform you of the staggering amount of suicides by firearms in America, or the real firearm statistics? Media sensationalism and the tyranny of public opinion needs to be closely examined and remedied,
Toby

Portland, OR

#9 Sep 16, 2013
*remedied. period , sorry
Bill

Tappahannock, VA

#10 Sep 16, 2013
William Joyce KVK1 wrote:
<quoted text> Stick to what goes on in Sweden, we don't tell you what to do, so don't tell us what to do. Every morning I'll strap on my Colt, just like they did in Dodge City.
The only thing you strap on is long, made of rubber and black.
Toby

Portland, OR

#11 Sep 16, 2013
There are around 82 Americans killed everyday by firearms and 90 % of those deaths are with handguns, very few of those deaths are related to assault weapons. There is an informative research paper on the subject in the Harvard’s Journal of Public Law and Policy, titled " Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide?"

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp...
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#12 Sep 16, 2013
William Joyce KVK1 wrote:
<quoted text> Why don't you do the world a favor, go to the dollar store buy some clothesline and use it to hang yourself.
I’m not surprised by your response, William. After all, I did take a strong stand against insane, homicidal, gun-toting types.

But I am curious — why clothesline? Don’t you understand that the NRA would urge me to purchase a gun instead?

You seem to have lost your focus.
o dum ma

Abbeville, LA

#13 Sep 16, 2013
o dum ma could be son did it again, why you all blaming NRA you have tough back ground checks an such to get a legal gun which NRA supports. Thugs get their guns off the street with numbers filed down or stolen like other post states.
Toby

Portland, OR

#14 Sep 16, 2013
Any ban on assault weapons will have no appreciable effect on the total amount of firearm related deaths in America anyway. Spend some time researching firearm related deaths in America and the fist compelling fact is that most firearm related deaths are in fact suicides and handguns are the choice of weapons in an overwhelming majority of those firearm related suicides.

Handguns are also used in a majority of homicides in America, assault weapons represent a very small percentage of firearm related homicides, and massacres using assault weapons is much less than 1 % of all firearm related deaths in America. We hear about the 1/10th of 1 % from media sensationalism, that 1/10th of 1 % will dominate the news for months, but the 99.9 % of gun related deaths will not even be mentioned by the media. The rarest forms of firearm related deaths will consume national attention while ten times the amount of human lives will die from handguns everyday.
Toby

Portland, OR

#15 Sep 16, 2013
This just demonstrates how media influenced the American people are, or specifically how credulous they are in interpreting media reports in relation to real statistics. Going after assault weapons to prevent firearm related deaths is like attempting to ban chewing tobacco to prevent lung cancer, while inadvertently promoting the sales of cigarettes.

They take one of the rarest forms of firearm related deaths (assault weapons) and make it the centerpiece of gun control laws resulting in a nationwide shopping spree for guns and ammunition and a majority of those purchases were handguns which (IS) the weapon most used in all firearm related homicides and suicides.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#16 Sep 16, 2013
o dum ma wrote:
o dum ma could be son did it again, why you all blaming NRA you have tough back ground checks an such to get a legal gun which NRA supports. Thugs get their guns off the street with numbers filed down or stolen like other post states.
Or the get them at those “gun shows” that do not require a background check. The NRA does not seem interested in legislation that would not exempt them from selling guns without a background check. I would publicly support the NRA if it would. But, let’s not pretend that they favor tough background checks.
Solid

United States

#17 Sep 17, 2013
Fact : in the US you must have a back ground check to buy a fire arm !
Fact : criminals don't buy guns from stores
Fact: you don't need a gun to kill someone , bombs , knifes , sticks , hands , and so on will do the job to
Fact : crimes using weapons of any sort should have a hard and long punishment

Look you can't fix the crime in the US by using the ol'catch and release Thats for fishing not criminals

A crime using any weapon should have 25 years no if and or buts about it
And if you used that weapon than its death
If you have a weapon that is illegal in any shape or form you get 10 years

More time = less crime

I know of a man who has shoot a man with out kill him and only did 28 mo. Got out and 6 mo. Later shot and killed a man in cold blood they dropped the felon with gun charge and gave him 4 years he only served 24 mo. If thats justice I'm the president
Solid

United States

#18 Sep 17, 2013
Alcohol kills more people than guns so why no push to ban alcohol
SNJ

Arendal, Norway

#20 Sep 17, 2013
Toby wrote:
I am all for getting assault weapons banned, but the problem is even if that is accomplished there would be millions of assault weapons still floating around. Plus many people who commit crimes with firearms don't legally purchase those weapons in the first place, many times the weapon is either directly stolen in a burglary, bought from a friend who has stolen the weapon, or bought locally from a gun ad in a magazine or a newspaper.
Also most all deaths by firearms in America is suicides anyway, and those firearm related deaths are nine out of ten times committed by a handgun not an assault weapon. In 2010 there were 30,470 firearm related deaths in America, of that total number 19,392 of those deaths were suicides by firearm.
That is 63 % of all firearm related deaths in America are suicides by firearms. Assault weapons don't make up even 2 % of those firearm related suicides. Out of the total 30,470 firearm related deaths in 2010 , assault weapons were used in less than 2 % of all firearm related deaths both suicides and homicides.
By the way - and as some food for thought?: In north Africa there are thousands and thousands of landmines in the ground that were placed there during the battles in WW2. It is still very dangerous to move around there still today - 70 years later. Do you think that because these mines may represent some 2 per cent of all mines
left undiscovered/unremoved in the world today there is no reason, or no point in continueing to find and remove them?
SNJ

Arendal, Norway

#21 Sep 17, 2013
William Joyce KVK1 wrote:
<quoted text> Stick to what goes on in Sweden, we don't tell you what to do, so don't tell us what to do. Every morning I'll strap on my Colt, just like they did in Dodge City.
Have you ever thought of applying to get your tuition fees refunded?
Where is Sweden?

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