Former prosecutor says treatment of Guantanamo detainees puts U.S soldiers at risk

Jan 31, 2013 Full story: News Observer 12

The U.S. government's handling of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba puts its own soldiers and citizens at risk if they are detained by foreign forces, the former chief prosecutor at Guantanamo says.

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Don from Canada

Sudbury, Canada

#1 Jan 31, 2013
DUH! Is the US Government, finally realizing that their, "Guantonimo-type", jails, all over the globe,(that dispense cruel and unusual punishment, that is not allowed under 'The Geneva Convention'), will (probably) bring dishonor to America?
The following quote, is from a former US officer who was in charge in Gitmo, and resigned his post, and went on a lecture-tour of US Universities, to explain how the Trials were to be handled, by the different The U.S. government’s handling of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba puts its own soldiers and citizens at risk if they are detained by foreign forces, the former chief prosecutor at Guantanamo says.

QUOTE: Retired Air Force Col. Morris Davis served as Guantanamo’s chief prosecutor from 2005 to 2007 and will give four lectures at Triangle-area colleges Thursday and Friday. Davis says the United States cannot expect other countries to observe the laws of war if it doesn’t uphold them itself.

“The United States led the effort, particularly in the wake of World War II, in creating the Geneva Conventions and creating this body of law to regulate conflict,” Davis said by phone from Virginia.“And since 9/11, we’ve really turned our back on it.”

The detention facility at Guantanamo has been a center of legal debate since it opened in 2002 to hold detainees from the wars in Afghanistan and then Iraq. What happens there is of interest to people in North Carolina who believe that a Smithfield-based company, Aero Contractors Ltd., has served as an air taxi service for the CIA, taking detainees from Guantanamo to countries where they can be questioned under conditions not allowed under U.S. laws. The process is known as extraordinary rendition.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/01/30/264443... of the US Government.
Zhong San

Valley Stream, NY

#2 Jan 31, 2013
Canadian NATO Traitor like that above will meet end soon if come to United States.

Even in China, with corrupt government, no one criticizes NEIGHBOR ALLY just out of spite. Always tell Americans should annex feeble Canadian nation, but they are too stubborn.

“Abbiamo Vinto”

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#3 Jan 31, 2013
Don from Canada wrote:
El chancho"(so called by his fellows due to his odor similar to boiled kidneys, due to his poor hygiene and lack of bathing or showering) che guevara was the communist pig that gave the firing squad to many innocent Cubans and took great delight in doing so. He was a racist and particularly enjoyed humiliating the Cuban negroes & mulatoes as well as the native Amerindian Mexicans whom he despised and made no effort to conceal while he was in Mexico.
Since he was a commander just like fidel, and was bolder than fidel, he enjoyed great power. fidel did not like the competition so he send him off on mission to Bolivia, where he was killed as fidel expected. This gave the revolution a martyr, while removing the competition, as well as producing an icon for the revolution.
It is said by those that found che, that he said: "Don't shoot, don't shoot I'm che & I'm worth more alive than dead, don't shoot" The soldiers that found him laughed & told him to say his last prayers, he cursed God, begged, cried, made offers to his captors, whined, wet his pants, soiled his pants, sobbed, BANG! Justice was done!
He who had killed so many, and took so much delight in doing it, died like the coward he was!
Good riddance, the stinking "chancho" is dead!
**********What few people know is that while he claimed the title Doctor while he lived in Cuba, he never graduated from Medical School. The reason his fellow revolutionaries called him "che" was originally to denigrate him, because they refused to call him doctor or commandante, since those close to him looked down on him. The nickname stuck, and since in the Cuban jargon the word is unknown, it readily identified him. The people of Argentina use this word very liberally just as the Americans use the word "dude" or "man" or "guy". The myth is that he was a guerrilla expert, facts are that he never, not once, carried out a successful guerrilla activity.
True!
Don from Canada

Sudbury, Canada

#4 Jan 31, 2013
Zhong San wrote:
Canadian NATO Traitor like that above will meet end soon if come to United States.
Even in China, with corrupt government, no one criticizes NEIGHBOR ALLY just out of spite. Always tell Americans should annex feeble Canadian nation, but they are too stubborn.
Smart too, as you can see, that they keep up their despicable torture of their prisoners, in jails hidden all over the world,{in other countries), so they can (legally?) break,'The Geneva Conventions', without the American populace knowing what their elected government was up to. Pretty sneaky eh?
This doesn't mean we,(Canadians'), wouldn't help the USA, if they were under attack,(Here in North America). It does mean, that WE DO NOT APPROVE OF THESE SNEAKY TACTICS, IN ORDER TO TORTURE OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, TO GARNER INFORMATION. It opens the door to retaliatory treatment of US soldiers, when they are captured in the various frays your government starts around the world. Just remember, "YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE", my friend.
Don from Canada

Sudbury, Canada

#5 Jan 31, 2013
rTkLa1 wrote:
<quoted text>True!
If you keep submitting this cut and paste garbage, you'll eventually believe it. I sure don't.
Gordon Cubaking Robinson

Newton, NJ

#6 Feb 1, 2013
Don from Canada wrote:
<quoted text> El chancho"(so called by his fellows due to his odor similar to boiled kidneys, due to his poor hygiene and lack of bathing or showering) che guevara was the communist pig that gave the firing squad to many innocent Cubans and took great delight in doing so. He was a racist and particularly enjoyed humiliating the Cuban negroes & mulatoes as well as the native Amerindian Mexicans whom he despised and made no effort to conceal while he was in Mexico.
Since he was a commander just like fidel, and was bolder than fidel, he enjoyed great power. fidel did not like the competition so he send him off on mission to Bolivia, where he was killed as fidel expected. This gave the revolution a martyr, while removing the competition, as well as producing an icon for the revolution.
It is said by those that found che, that he said: "Don't shoot, don't shoot I'm che & I'm worth more alive than dead, don't shoot" The soldiers that found him laughed & told him to say his last prayers, he cursed God, begged, cried, made offers to his captors, whined, wet his pants, soiled his pants, sobbed, BANG! Justice was done!
He who had killed so many, and took so much delight in doing it, died like the coward he was!
Good riddance, the stinking "chancho" is dead!
**********What few people know is that while he claimed the title Doctor while he lived in Cuba, he never graduated from Medical School. The reason his fellow revolutionaries called him "che" was originally to denigrate him, because they refused to call him doctor or commandante, since those close to him looked down on him. The nickname stuck, and since in the Cuban jargon the word is unknown, it readily identified him. The people of Argentina use this word very liberally just as the Americans use the word "dude" or "man" or "guy". The myth is that he was a guerrilla expert, facts are that he never, not once, carried out a successful guerrilla activity..
EXACTLY!
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#7 Mar 15, 2013
I like the old adage that you can measure a society on how well they treat their prisoners.

Indefinate detainment with no trial is not a good measure of how the US is treating it's "prisoners".

Gitmo is like a case where a prosecutor will not drop charges even though he has a confession and dna from another party.

People do not like to reverse decisions or alter their stances out of stubborness in order to maintain the PERCEPTION they were right the first time. Many US officials simply don't want to be questioned or second guessed. They don't want to feel guilt, regret or embarassment by changing a their position many consider to be wrong.

This is as much about politics including impressing the hardline granny voters. Or maintaining the PERCEPTION that they or the US does not make bad decisions or always has the moral high ground.

I remember the cold war "jokes" or threats about the Russians sending their citizens to Siberia or a Gulag. There might not be slave labor at Gitmo but it is basically a prison in the middle of no where-most detainees are thousands of miles away from home. It's not like they are at the local jail.

There will always be people against the US so it's about time to set up something in federal prison and trial system for these alledged offenders. It's over a decade of the so called war on terror. Either you try these 'terror' suspects or release like other US prisoners.
U S MALE

Newton, NJ

#8 Mar 15, 2013
hugo-chavez wrote:
<quoted text>
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LOL!

feed the terrorists to the SHARKS!
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#9 Mar 15, 2013
U S MALE wrote:
<quoted text> LOL!
feed the terrorists to the SHARKS!
Do you feel safer simply because Gitmo exists? Are you an armchair quarterback or spectator at a street fight egging the combatants on?

Are you going to throw books to the sharks as well? The problem with Gitmo and the so called war on terror is that you are fighting an idea, a thought, a different point of view which many of these are at Gitmo for. How do you fight an idea. Thoughts an ideas go on forever or can be thought up by completely different people. These 'terrorists' are like the corner drug dealer, you arrest one and another be selling on a corner 2 blocks away the next day.

Different opinions. customs, religions, and/or unfortunetly terrorists/fanatics will almost always exist to the end of man. Get over it. Deal with it. Accept it. You can only minimize it without becoming a terrorist yourself.
P R E A C H E R

Newton, NJ

#11 Mar 15, 2013
Don from Canada wrote:
<quoted text> If you keep submitting this cut and paste garbage, you'll eventually believe it. I sure don't.
hugo-chavez wrote:
<quoted text>Satanas por favor no mas,......... piedad, en vida te servi...!AAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! Trae a raul y fidel aqui y liberame a mi...AAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! No QUIERO PASAR LA ETERNIDAD, PERPETUAMENTE ARDIENDO AQUI.. PIEDAD!!!!PAVOR! QUE DOLOR! QUE ARDOR! QUE HORROR!AAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! !
LOL LOL LOL!
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#12 Mar 16, 2013
Don from Canada wrote:
<quoted text> Smart too, as you can see, that they keep up their despicable torture of their prisoners, in jails hidden all over the world,{in other countries), so they can (legally?) break,'The Geneva Conventions', without the American populace knowing what their elected government was up to. Pretty sneaky eh?
This doesn't mean we,(Canadians'), wouldn't help the USA, if they were under attack,(Here in North America). It does mean, that WE DO NOT APPROVE OF THESE SNEAKY TACTICS, IN ORDER TO TORTURE OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, TO GARNER INFORMATION. It opens the door to retaliatory treatment of US soldiers, when they are captured in the various frays your government starts around the world. Just remember, "YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE", my friend.
It IS basically what goes around comes around. The US right now is looking at Gitmo and the 'war' on terror with tunnel vision. They boxed themselves with the policies of George and Dick. If Obama has kept his promises and closed Gitmo we'd be past this issue now. I still find it amazing that you see more pictures and video of Gitmo from the foreign press. It's like they don't want a so called domestic terrorist to know what Gitmo looks like.
Josh

Sparta, NJ

#13 Mar 17, 2013
hugo-chavez wrote:
<quoted text>Satanas por favor no mas,......... piedad, en vida te servi...!AAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! Trae a felix lopez aqui y liberame a mi...AAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! No QUIERO PASAR LA ETERNIDAD, PERPETUAMENTE ARDIENDO AQUI.. PIEDAD!!!!PAVOR! QUE DOLOR! QUE ARDOR! QUE HORROR!AAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! !
LOL!

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