Study: No overall negative impact after DADT repeal

There are 20 comments on the Sep 11, 2012, WTAE-TV Pittsburgh story titled Study: No overall negative impact after DADT repeal. In it, WTAE-TV Pittsburgh reports that:

For nearly 17 years, gay and lesbian soldiers of the U.S. military were expected to deny their sexuality under threat of dismissal as part of the policy known as "don't ask, don't tell." The repeal of the policy on Sept.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#21 Sep 20, 2012
Wait until married same-sex servicemembers start moving into on-base housing after DOMA is overturned.

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#22 Sep 20, 2012
Translator wrote:
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Translation:
It will take 50 years for homosexuals to destroy the US Military.
Perhaps that long but many already see a weakening in the military.

"The Pentagon claims “allowing gay men and women to serve openly in the U.S. armed forces presents a low risk to the military's effectiveness, even in time of war." (8) It is making assertions that simply are not true. In direct opposition to the Pentagon's statement, three of the four U.S. Armed Service chiefs told lawmakers that “allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military while the country is still at war could be disruptive to combat operations."

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#23 Sep 20, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
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Perhaps that long but many already see a weakening in the military.
"The Pentagon claims “allowing gay men and women to serve openly in the U.S. armed forces presents a low risk to the military's effectiveness, even in time of war." (8) It is making assertions that simply are not true. In direct opposition to the Pentagon's statement, three of the four U.S. Armed Service chiefs told lawmakers that “allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military while the country is still at war could be disruptive to combat operations."
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a0...
Psst, that was from a year ago.

Well, it's been a year, with our troops still in combat, and EVERYONE agrees there's been no "disruption to combat operations" because of DADT being repealed.

But keep screaming that the sky is falling.......
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#24 Sep 20, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Psst, that was from a year ago.
Well, it's been a year, with our troops still in combat, and EVERYONE agrees there's been no "disruption to combat operations" because of DADT being repealed.
But keep screaming that the sky is falling.......
The sky is not falling. Just a lot of gays who are now coming out the closet are hitting the ground with a thud. Big fall from such a lofty place where arrogance lives.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#25 Sep 20, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps that long but many already see a weakening in the military.
"The Pentagon claims “allowing gay men and women to serve openly in the U.S. armed forces presents a low risk to the military's effectiveness, even in time of war." (8) It is making assertions that simply are not true. In direct opposition to the Pentagon's statement, three of the four U.S. Armed Service chiefs told lawmakers that “allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military while the country is still at war could be disruptive to combat operations."
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a0...
And guess what. All 3 of those people have been proven incorrect. Notice they said it "could" be, not "would be" disruptive. Fact is it wasn't disruptive.

But then you often use questionable data when making your case.

Today is the one year anniversary of the end of DADTDP. We served in silence and now we don't have to lie.

I guess you feel lying about who you are is a good thing.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#26 Sep 20, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
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The sky is not falling. Just a lot of gays who are now coming out the closet are hitting the ground with a thud. Big fall from such a lofty place where arrogance lives.
And when it comes to arrogance you certainly are an expert at it.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#27 Sep 20, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>And when it comes to arrogance you certainly are an expert at it.
That's not true! How can you say that when you haven't been formerly introduced to my character?

But just the way you worded your post tells me your gay, proud of it, and don't give a crap about anyone who has an opinion. See, the height of arrogance is rudeness. And rudeness is what you excel in.
So hush and go to your room and let adults engage in adult discussions.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#28 Sep 20, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>And guess what. All 3 of those people have been proven incorrect. Notice they said it "could" be, not "would be" disruptive. Fact is it wasn't disruptive.
But then you often use questionable data when making your case.
Today is the one year anniversary of the end of DADTDP. We served in silence and now we don't have to lie.
I guess you feel lying about who you are is a good thing.
You served in silence? You never served a day in your life, unless it was wait service in a gay bar. But now I realize DNF stands for DidNotFinish, DidNotFight, or Don'tNoticeFemales, or DONUTFart. Probably a whole bunch more DNF donkey tails with pins out there, but your rudeness gets my drift, huh?

And don't start calling me a bigot or gay hater. I don't really care about what a person does in privacy. I only get tacky when a gay opens his mouth and and puts his foot in it for a change.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#29 Sep 20, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Psst, that was from a year ago.
I saw what that manipulative person was doing right away; I knew she was quoting from the previous statements of yore.
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Well, it's been a year, with our troops still in combat, and EVERYONE agrees there's been no "disruption to combat operations" because of DADT being repealed.
But keep screaming that the sky is falling.......
They'll never stop. Their hatred and snot-sucking obsessions is *dependent* upon claiming that *E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E* but them is wrong.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#30 Sep 21, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
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You served in silence? You never served a day in your life, unless it was wait service in a gay bar. But now I realize DNF stands for DidNotFinish, DidNotFight, or Don'tNoticeFemales, or DONUTFart. Probably a whole bunch more DNF donkey tails with pins out there, but your rudeness gets my drift, huh?
And don't start calling me a bigot or gay hater. I don't really care about what a person does in privacy. I only get tacky when a gay opens his mouth and and puts his foot in it for a change.
You are correct. I did not serve in the military.

My use of the word "We" was in reference to gays and lesbians in general, not me as an individual.

I'm sorry you were confused. Thank you for being as civil and adult as is possible for you.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#31 Sep 21, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not true! How can you say that when you haven't been formerly introduced to my character?
But just the way you worded your post tells me your gay, proud of it, and don't give a crap about anyone who has an opinion. See, the height of arrogance is rudeness. And rudeness is what you excel in.
So hush and go to your room and let adults engage in adult discussions.
Thank you for post # 28. Your character is now clear.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#32 Sep 21, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct. I did not serve in the military.
My use of the word "We" was in reference to gays and lesbians in general, not me as an individual.
I'm sorry you were confused. Thank you for being as civil and adult as is possible for you.
If you think I should offer up an apology to an idiot gay who chose to use a rude, tasteless, bigoted introduction to a poster who didn't ask for his opinion, you can stick it where the sun don't shine.

And in the best of military traditions, "You" are not "We" who served and are not entitled to such recognition-regardless of who you associate with and did serve. Gays and lesbians who served in the military, and are serving, are "We"-not "You".
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#33 Sep 21, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for post # 28. Your character is now clear.
See post #26 for a rude, thin skinned, smart ass!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#34 Sep 21, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
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If you think I should offer up an apology to an idiot gay who chose to use a rude, tasteless, bigoted introduction to a poster who didn't ask for his opinion, you can stick it where the sun don't shine.
And in the best of military traditions, "You" are not "We" who served and are not entitled to such recognition-regardless of who you associate with and did serve. Gays and lesbians who served in the military, and are serving, are "We"-not "You".
What gave you the impression I was seeking an apology? For myself or anyone else? This is a 'public forum'. As long as the Topix terms of service are followed I support anyone's right to air their views.

FYI Much of what I know about military service is from my brother who served for over 32 years.

Namaste.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#35 Sep 21, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
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See post #26 for a rude, thin skinned, smart ass!
I'll gladly admit I can be rude and a smart ass. But thin skinned? Nope. Been gay my whole life and developed a very strong sense of self as a result. And a pretty thick skin too.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#36 Sep 21, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>I'll gladly admit I can be rude and a smart ass. But thin skinned? Nope. Been gay my whole life and developed a very strong sense of self as a result. And a pretty thick skin too.
Did you not post (#11) the you were a straight man with issues and insecure about yourself?
(#35)-"been gay all my life." (Lie #1)
(#30)-"You are correct. I did not serve in the military." (Implied lie #2)
(#34)-"FYI-much of what I know about military service is from my brother who served for over 32 years."

Well, I had a cousin that worked on military "stuff" in the New Mexico desert during WWII, but that doesn't mean I know how to make an atomic bomb. Now I'm sure that doesn't resonate with you. You admitted you can be a smart ass, and I don't know how you can be sincere about sarcasm.

But I served my country in the US military, and I don't have to rely on any other family member's service to establish my opinion on military issues. I have walked the walk-I earned the right to talk the talk.

I do judge people by what they are, what they say, and what they do. I have seen some pretty gory stuff that made real men wretch, vomit, pass out, cry, and just go over the top 'in general'. If that happens in a combat environment during actual combat others, not in that condition, are affected. So if I am in that situation, with a gay person who does a girly freak out like they saw a mouse, and it places others in jeopardy, that will be the last girly freak out they will ever have. Many people in the military feel the same as I do.

Believe me! You are thin skinned and you can't be trusted with the truth issue. So I question most everything you post. I don't want you next to me in combat.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#37 Sep 21, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you not post (#11) the you were a straight man with issues and insecure about yourself?
I was responding in kind to 'tranlator'. You missed the humor and sarcasm.
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>(#35)-"been gay all my life." (Lie #1)
Actually I have known since my earliest memories that I wanted to marry a man not a woman. Odd that you think you can decide when a total stranger is being honest about their life. Does Homeland Security know of your amazing ability?
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>(#30)-"You are correct. I did not serve in the military." (Implied lie #2)
Do you read your own posts before you hit send. How can admitting I never served be an implied lie? But congrats on a very creative use of the english language. I'll be looking forward to when I see "implied lie" used on some TV cop and lawyer show.
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>(#34)-"FYI-much of what I know about military service is from my brother who served for over 32 years."
Well, I had a cousin that worked on military "stuff" in the New Mexico desert during WWII, but that doesn't mean I know how to make an atomic bomb. Now I'm sure that doesn't resonate with you. You admitted you can be a smart ass, and I don't know how you can be sincere about sarcasm.
But I served my country in the US military, and I don't have to rely on any other family member's service to establish my opinion on military issues. I have walked the walk-I earned the right to talk the talk.
I well aware of that. See I remember you from the DADT repeal threads. You said we'd have to create separate showers if gays served openly because you didn't like the idea someone was checking you out.
I thanked you for your service and speculated why you'd feel threatened by being seen naked. It struck me as very odd that a lean mean fighting machine could be so terrified by a pansy just looking at him.
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>I do judge people by what they are, what they say, and what they do. I have seen some pretty gory stuff that made real men wretch, vomit, pass out, cry, and just go over the top 'in general'. If that happens in a combat environment during actual combat others, not in that condition, are affected. So if I am in that situation, with a gay person who does a girly freak out like they saw a mouse, and it places others in jeopardy, that will be the last girly freak out they will ever have. Many people in the military feel the same as I do.
I'd probably feel the same. But based on what I have learned from many people who served, it's usually chest thumping macho shitheads like you that usually cause most of the cluster f*cks.
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>Believe me! You are thin skinned and you can't be trusted with the truth issue. So I question most everything you post. I don't want you next to me in combat.
I don't think I'd want you in my unit either. Geez someone so freaked out about being naked in front of other men should still be in Junior High not serving in a combat zone.

Once again, thanks for your service. Too bad when you spoke the oath to defend the Constitution and the people of this country, you lied. The only folks you wanted to keep safe are those you approve of. And the only parts of the Constitution you wanted to defend were the parts that said you could act like a big man for being a soldier.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#38 Sep 21, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>
See post #26 for a rude, thin skinned, smart ass!
my my my. This little sissy sure seems to have gotten under Captain America's skin!

LMAO

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#39 Sep 22, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
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I do judge people by what they are, what they say, and what they do. I have seen some pretty gory stuff that made real men wretch, vomit, pass out, cry, and just go over the top 'in general'. If that happens in a combat environment during actual combat others, not in that condition, are affected. So if I am in that situation, with a gay person who does a girly freak out like they saw a mouse, and it places others in jeopardy, that will be the last girly freak out they will ever have. Many people in the military feel the same as I do.
I don't want you next to me in combat.
Obviously you don't know anyone but the stereotypical "girly" gay man. That's what happens when you force all the "real" men to remain closeted; only the stereotype gets noticed. The overwhelmingy majority of gays & lesbians are "real" men & women; you just didn't realize you were serving right next the them all those years.

Btw, I saw many "real men" who wouldn't blink at ripping your head off and shitting down your neck in combat, but faint at the sight of a needle. Oh yeah, real men..... Good thing our enemy isn't armed with hypodermic needles!

Trust me, we don't want to be next to you in combat either.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#40 Sep 22, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>I was responding in kind to 'tranlator'. You missed the humor and sarcasm.
<quoted text> Actually I have known since my earliest memories that I wanted to marry a man not a woman. Odd that you think you can decide when a total stranger is being honest about their life. Does Homeland Security know of your amazing ability?
<quoted text>Do you read your own posts before you hit send. How can admitting I never served be an implied lie? But congrats on a very creative use of the english language. I'll be looking forward to when I see "implied lie" used on some TV cop and lawyer show.
<quoted text>I well aware of that. See I remember you from the DADT repeal threads. You said we'd have to create separate showers if gays served openly because you didn't like the idea someone was checking you out.
I thanked you for your service and speculated why you'd feel threatened by being seen naked. It struck me as very odd that a lean mean fighting machine could be so terrified by a pansy just looking at him.
<quoted text>I'd probably feel the same. But based on what I have learned from many people who served, it's usually chest thumping macho shitheads like you that usually cause most of the cluster f*cks.
<quoted text>I don't think I'd want you in my unit either. Geez someone so freaked out about being naked in front of other men should still be in Junior High not serving in a combat zone.
Once again, thanks for your service. Too bad when you spoke the oath to defend the Constitution and the people of this country, you lied. The only folks you wanted to keep safe are those you approve of. And the only parts of the Constitution you wanted to defend were the parts that said you could act like a big man for being a soldier.
Point #1-I have never posted anything about showers in the military, high school, or at the beach where I would demonstrate some form of paranoia.

Point #2-My amazing ability is survival in conditions that are unfavorable to human survival. And homeland security is a daydream for liberal handwringers.

Point #3-You haven't learned crap about being in the military. That's like telling me you learned all about the moon by watching the movie "Apollo 13".

Point #4-My oath is my word-my bond. Try screwing with the Constitution, or supporting those that do, and see if you will accomplish anything meaningful.

Point #5-I don't act like anything you would recognize.

And finally-I don't give a whale turd about your "thanking me for my service" you little prick. Just serving my country, which includes deluded little fairy people like you, was my pleasure. I get my satisfaction by doing the job I was trained to do, and doing it damn well. And as for fear of pansies, you are creating the social misinformation that's going to get someone in deep doo-doo-you just haven't had it 'in your face yet'.

BTW-if you have followed me on any other blog, you would know I'm ex-Navy. And from my 'experiences' with being 'solicited' by the fairy community, you need to understand one fact-you and your kind make me sick to my stomach. Other than that, do what you do, shower a lot to wash that crap from around your mouth, and avoid physical confrontations with people like me at all cost.

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