Hanau says goodbye to U.S. troops

Hanau says goodbye to U.S. troops

There are 1489 comments on the Stars and Stripes story from Aug 7, 2008, titled Hanau says goodbye to U.S. troops. In it, Stars and Stripes reports that:

Col. Ray Graham, left, U.S. Army Garrison Hessen commander, and Hanau's Lord Mayor Claus Kaminsky show off the presents they exchanged following the garrison's closure ceremony on Pioneer Kaserne in Hanau, ...

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Paul Huber

Fort Bragg, NC

#1071 Oct 3, 2012
bill08701 wrote:
If any of you guys are new to this thread "Rattle Kattle" has been trying to disrupt for the last two years. Just ignore him and he will usually go back to his pathetic life, he's almost comical lol. Anyone on here from the 574th Pers Svc Co..circa 72-76? What a great town and great memories of Pioneer.
I was stationed with the 574th from about Jan/Feb 74 to Nov '76. My first time in Germany, and I must say one of the best times of my life. I worked as a promotions clerk on the first floor, living upstairs on the 3d. Damned if I can remember my roomates' names tho. Some good friends and party buddies were David "Windy" and Bonnie, Randy and Candy Heise. I worked with SSG Hopkins (Hoppy) who has passed away some time ago. Was in a couple of the plays.. such as Jesus Christ Superstar ( I was a Roman guard)with a couple of friends.. Jim Schafer "Schafe". Who could forget Perry Broadnax as Herod! I remember "Big D " fondly. He lived right down the hall from me, and loaned me money to take emergency leave. Oh.... the parties in the barracks and the runs to the KFC across the street, and of course many, many nights at Tonys. God, the walk back from there would be something. On more than a few times we climbed the fence to avoid going through the guard shack. Lots of fun and lots and lots of memories! Aaaaah I also remember MSG Bunn. I do remember one of my roomates was on ski patrol in Garmisch for a while, and the other was from Corpus Christi, TX. I can see their faces, but cannot remember the names....
Paul Huber

Fort Bragg, NC

#1072 Oct 3, 2012
Barbara Decker wrote:
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I was with 574th PSC, 1974-1978, Pers. Mgmt. Worked for SFC Bunn. Loved Tony's and considered SGM Dawkins a great friend! The man had a heart of gold! Let's see who else I remember, Eve Wojcik, Perry Broadnaux, Ron Lenker, 1SG Long, Michael Bransn, Sheila, Elphie, Tony Gatlin, Bruce Stevens, Frank & Marge Hudson, the Anderson's, Chub, Cheryl and Phil getting married, SOOO many more. What a great time in my life. I keep wanting to go back and see it again, but it will never be the same. So Bill, where did you work? I seem to remember your name. Tall, thin, blonde I think.(If not, not as young as I once was LOL). What a pleasure it is to read something from someone who was there and who remembers our 'gentle giant' with fondness!


Hi Ya Barb! What a surprise to find this site, and see you on here. Do you remember the trip we took to the Octoberfest, I guess it must have been in '75 or '76? I believe our group stayed in Garmisch,and then we went to Innsbruck. Somewhere I have those photos. So sorry to hear about Big D. He was a great guy. Considering all of the parties and noise that went on in those barracks, right outside of his room, and he hardly ever came out and chewed our butts. Don't know if you remember SSG Hopkins, but he also passed away some time ago. I stay in contact with Randy Heise (if you remember him). He just turned 60 this past weekend, and I will be 62 this month. Can you believe it!!! I have moved from California where I lived for years to North Carolina to be closer to my daughter and son in law and grandkids. He is a Warrant stationed here at Bragg. They just came down on orders for Wiesbaden next year, so I now have a place to stay and can go visit. I ended up staying in and ultimately retiring from the Army. Was stationed in Heidelberg for 3 yrs, and then was on the IG team at Nellingen Barracks (Stuttgart) for another 3 yrs. Cannot wait to get back there. Not sure I want to go back to Hanau however. I know you can never "go back", but not sure if I could deal well with Pioneer being a ghost town. That happened to me at Fort Ord after it was closed. Sooooo difficult to go down those old abandonded streets and buildings where I took Basic and AIT and was permanent party in the early 70's before Hanau. Well, glad to see this site, and hopefully some old friends can get back in touch. Good to see this Barb!
tdsports

New Bedford, MA

#1073 Oct 4, 2012
Paul Huber wrote:
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Hi Ya Barb! What a surprise to find this site, and see you on here. Do you remember the trip we took to the Octoberfest, I guess it must have been in '75 or '76? I believe our group stayed in Garmisch,and then we went to Innsbruck. Somewhere I have those photos. So sorry to hear about Big D. He was a great guy. Considering all of the parties and noise that went on in those barracks, right outside of his room, and he hardly ever came out and chewed our butts. Don't know if you remember SSG Hopkins, but he also passed away some time ago. I stay in contact with Randy Heise (if you remember him). He just turned 60 this past weekend, and I will be 62 this month. Can you believe it!!! I have moved from California where I lived for years to North Carolina to be closer to my daughter and son in law and grandkids. He is a Warrant stationed here at Bragg. They just came down on orders for Wiesbaden next year, so I now have a place to stay and can go visit. I ended up staying in and ultimately retiring from the Army. Was stationed in Heidelberg for 3 yrs, and then was on the IG team at Nellingen Barracks (Stuttgart) for another 3 yrs. Cannot wait to get back there. Not sure I want to go back to Hanau however. I know you can never "go back", but not sure if I could deal well with Pioneer being a ghost town. That happened to me at Fort Ord after it was closed. Sooooo difficult to go down those old abandonded streets and buildings where I took Basic and AIT and was permanent party in the early 70's before Hanau. Well, glad to see this site, and hopefully some old friends can get back in touch. Good to see this Barb!
Hi Paul,
I was in the 574th from the Fall of 1975 through the Spring of 1978, and I think I remember you. I worked on the 2nd floor, probably doing ID Cards while you were there. Ernesto Rojhas? may have been one of your room mates. I'm trying remember another guy from Guam - Ben ???, John Bruno from Boston, I bought SSG Broadnax's car when he left Germany. I'm am slowly gathering names and information from my time in Hanau, and this site is a great asset for connecting to people.
Bill Coughlin

Stratford, CT

#1074 Oct 4, 2012
Paul Huber wrote:
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I was stationed with the 574th from about Jan/Feb 74 to Nov '76. My first time in Germany, and I must say one of the best times of my life. I worked as a promotions clerk on the first floor, living upstairs on the 3d. Damned if I can remember my roomates' names tho. Some good friends and party buddies were David "Windy" and Bonnie, Randy and Candy Heise. I worked with SSG Hopkins (Hoppy) who has passed away some time ago. Was in a couple of the plays.. such as Jesus Christ Superstar ( I was a Roman guard)with a couple of friends.. Jim Schafer "Schafe". Who could forget Perry Broadnax as Herod! I remember "Big D " fondly. He lived right down the hall from me, and loaned me money to take emergency leave. Oh.... the parties in the barracks and the runs to the KFC across the street, and of course many, many nights at Tonys. God, the walk back from there would be something. On more than a few times we climbed the fence to avoid going through the guard shack. Lots of fun and lots and lots of memories! Aaaaah I also remember MSG Bunn. I do remember one of my roomates was on ski patrol in Garmisch for a while, and the other was from Corpus Christi, TX. I can see their faces, but cannot remember the names....
Hi Paul. Bill Coughlin here. I was a SSG back then and ran Team2 for the records section. Your name rings a bell but I can't picture you. Perry Broadnax was on my team. Do you remember Eneida Maysonnet, she worked ID cards and inquiries, she worked for SSG Boyd (OB). Eneida and I ended up getting married but unfortunately divorced many years ago. Your roommate on Ski Patrol I can picture but his name escapes me. We probably saw each other a million times at Tony's. It was like a second home for me. I also was really bummed to hear about Big D, we were very close. On my next tour to Germany I went to visit him. he had an apartment downtown, it was covered from floor to ceiling with cases of liquor, I guess he was preparing for retirement lol
What a great time it was to be alive!
Arch Whitman

Dallas, TX

#1075 Oct 4, 2012
Pat R Rosey wrote:
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Bobby I was in the 223rd ORD DET. stationed at Pioneer Kaserne between the spring of 1970 to January of 1972 I’ve been looking every couple of months for someone from the 223rd. I hear the 223rd became the 81st Ord. in 1972 after I left. Before the 223rd got there I was in the 88th HEM.
Hello Bobby, I arrived at the 223rd Ord in Feb 1973, worked on the TOW. We became the 71st Ord sometime around May or June of theat same year. I really wished it had stayed the same. We tripled in size in a very short period of time. We used to have the first and second floor of the building, and the some other unit (maintenance group had the third and fourth. Shortly after changing our name to the 71st Ord we took the fourth floor and gave up the second floor.
I bet we know some of the same folks.
Paul Huber

Fort Bragg, NC

#1076 Oct 4, 2012
tdsports wrote:
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Hi Paul,
I was in the 574th from the Fall of 1975 through the Spring of 1978, and I think I remember you. I worked on the 2nd floor, probably doing ID Cards while you were there. Ernesto Rojhas? may have been one of your room mates. I'm trying remember another guy from Guam - Ben ???, John Bruno from Boston, I bought SSG Broadnax's car when he left Germany. I'm am slowly gathering names and information from my time in Hanau, and this site is a great asset for connecting to people.
Ernesto, for some reason your name does ring a bell, but can't picture you. So you got Perry's car? Believe he had a BMW. What a character he was.! Went to quite a few parties at his place.. He had his eccentricities, but God he could cook, and throw one hell of a party. Never knew who you were going to meet. Oh, wait, he had to move back into the barracks before I left. Can't remember the issue though. But, flamboyant would probably best describe him. I consider myself lucky though to have survived it. I have lived at the Windham's place. He ran the printing shop down on the first floor. Lets see, my room I believe was the first room on the left on the 3d floor, just off of the stair case. That was on the side above the orderly room, not the side where the CQ desk was. Then I was promoted,and had a private room. I got busted however, but still managed to keep my room. Uggggh, so frustrating not remembering names! So glad I discovered this posting. Maybe a bunch more will show up here. Who knows? Good to hear from you!
Paul Huber

Fort Bragg, NC

#1077 Oct 4, 2012
Bill Coughlin wrote:
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Hi Paul. Bill Coughlin here. I was a SSG back then and ran Team2 for the records section. Your name rings a bell but I can't picture you. Perry Broadnax was on my team. Do you remember Eneida Maysonnet, she worked ID cards and inquiries, she worked for SSG Boyd (OB). Eneida and I ended up getting married but unfortunately divorced many years ago. Your roommate on Ski Patrol I can picture but his name escapes me. We probably saw each other a million times at Tony's. It was like a second home for me. I also was really bummed to hear about Big D, we were very close. On my next tour to Germany I went to visit him. he had an apartment downtown, it was covered from floor to ceiling with cases of liquor, I guess he was preparing for retirement lol
What a great time it was to be alive!
Dang it! I wrote this long reply and it doesn't appear to have taken it. Yes it was a great time to be alive, and I am surprised I survived it. I know you probably saw me as I needed to go to records to retrieve files to compute the promotion points etc. Your name and Eneida's ring a bell, but I cannot put a face on them. Names pop up at me, but not full names. I believe a lot of friends worked out in the vans outside the entrance.. There was Randy Heise, Jim Schafer, "Big Bird", Billy Jack...?, God, and then a ton of faces without names anymore. I remember a Captain who was RIF back to his enlisted rank and had to leave. I remember when all the female soldiers were living up behind the caged entrance on the 4th floor. I remember Betty Redhair for some reason. Oh well, maybe they will come back to me, or who knows, maybe they will post something here as well. Really enjoying reading these posts.
Curtis Donley

United States

#1078 Oct 4, 2012
Sad to see it close! I was with the 122 maint. Battalion ; 3rd Armor Division from 80 thru 83. I did a lot of growing up then since I was just a teenager when I arrived. It was the best duty assignment I had.
Pat

Little Rock, AR

#1079 Oct 5, 2012
Paul Huber wrote:
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I was stationed with the 574th from about Jan/Feb 74 to Nov '76. My first time in Germany, and I must say one of the best times of my life. I worked as a promotions clerk on the first floor, living upstairs on the 3d. Damned if I can remember my roomates' names tho. Some good friends and party buddies were David "Windy" and Bonnie, Randy and Candy Heise. I worked with SSG Hopkins (Hoppy) who has passed away some time ago. Was in a couple of the plays.. such as Jesus Christ Superstar ( I was a Roman guard)with a couple of friends.. Jim Schafer "Schafe". Who could forget Perry Broadnax as Herod! I remember "Big D " fondly. He lived right down the hall from me, and loaned me money to take emergency leave. Oh.... the parties in the barracks and the runs to the KFC across the street, and of course many, many nights at Tonys. God, the walk back from there would be something. On more than a few times we climbed the fence to avoid going through the guard shack. Lots of fun and lots and lots of memories! Aaaaah I also remember MSG Bunn. I do remember one of my roomates was on ski patrol in Garmisch for a while, and the other was from Corpus Christi, TX. I can see their faces, but cannot remember the names....
I remember climbing the back gate to go to Tony's. I was at Tony's so much that if anybody spilled anything at my table he would tell me I knew where the mop was. It was so much fun growing up at Tony's. Was so sad when he sold the place and they split it in two and one was Tony's and the other one became the Boat. both long gone now.
Paul Huber

Fort Bragg, NC

#1080 Oct 5, 2012
Pat wrote:
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I remember climbing the back gate to go to Tony's. I was at Tony's so much that if anybody spilled anything at my table he would tell me I knew where the mop was. It was so much fun growing up at Tony's. Was so sad when he sold the place and they split it in two and one was Tony's and the other one became the Boat. both long gone now.
I think when I was there it was called E Tonys. I know it was on the way back from the 5 Pffening Play House for us, and we always stopped there on the way back. Great times and great food, but damn that walk back would sometimes take forever. It's a wonder I never got hit crossing that street! That and the KFC! Munchies would kick in, and I don't care if it was snowing or pouring down rain we HAD to go across the street and get some, and then go back thru the scrutiny of the guard gate. Such fun times!!!
sgt chuck

United States

#1081 Oct 5, 2012
Dave Jenkins wrote:
<quoted text> I borrowed the old MBenz from a SGT in 516th, can't rember his name. Can you put me om your E-mail list ? I tried to return your e-mail, but it came back. Chuck werent you up stairs from the Hatley's ?? Please keep in touch.
Dave
Yes Dave you are correct my e- mail is [email protected]
Bill Coughlin

Howell, NJ

#1082 Oct 5, 2012
Paul Huber wrote:
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I think when I was there it was called E Tonys. I know it was on the way back from the 5 Pffening Play House for us, and we always stopped there on the way back. Great times and great food, but damn that walk back would sometimes take forever. It's a wonder I never got hit crossing that street! That and the KFC! Munchies would kick in, and I don't care if it was snowing or pouring down rain we HAD to go across the street and get some, and then go back thru the scrutiny of the guard gate. Such fun times!!!
Hey Paul. I was there from 72 to spring 76. For the life of me I can't remember a KFC across the street. Probably because they didn't serve beer was the reason I didn't go. I remember around 75 Big D started going to the mess hall, it was mediocre at best, but after a few discussions with Mr Dawkins the meals became first class lol. I also remember the snack bar did a "steak night" tableclothes candles waiters it was really nice, you felt as if you were in restaurant back home. I to retired from the service and did two additional tours in Germany, but Hanau will always have a special place in my heart. I said this in earlier posts we were young and going a 100 miles an hour and didn't grasp how great it was at the time. I liked what you said about "surviving", I to attended a couple of Perry's parties and many others, looking back I wonder how in the hell I made it to work each day. Great memories....
Eric Carlson

Sag Harbor, NY

#1083 Oct 8, 2012
I was there at Pioner Kassern from 88 to 91 with the 568 Eng Co it was a great time there. Only thing we were tdy alot.
Paul Huber

Fort Bragg, NC

#1084 Oct 9, 2012
Bill Coughlin wrote:
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Hey Paul. I was there from 72 to spring 76. For the life of me I can't remember a KFC across the street. Probably because they didn't serve beer was the reason I didn't go. I remember around 75 Big D started going to the mess hall, it was mediocre at best, but after a few discussions with Mr Dawkins the meals became first class lol. I also remember the snack bar did a "steak night" tableclothes candles waiters it was really nice, you felt as if you were in restaurant back home. I to retired from the service and did two additional tours in Germany, but Hanau will always have a special place in my heart. I said this in earlier posts we were young and going a 100 miles an hour and didn't grasp how great it was at the time. I liked what you said about "surviving", I to attended a couple of Perry's parties and many others, looking back I wonder how in the hell I made it to work each day. Great memories....
Yep, I had forgotten about the steak night at the snack bar. Went a couple of times. But... I also remember that they made a killer Philly steak sandwich. Never forgot that stupid sandwich, but then the "munchies" always made things taste better. I also serve two more tours of Germany. Heidelberg (Schwetzingen/1st PERSCOM), and finally Stuttgart (Nellingen Barracks). Loved them both,and even though Heidelberg was special as my daughter was born there, Hanau always will hold an extra special spot. First German tour, and while I too went 100 miles an hour it seems, I will never forget the fun, the parties, and yes, the inevitable piss test! Big "D" was special, and although he always appeared to be gruff, at least to me, he was a kind and giving person. Hard to imagine even today, a SGM actually choosing to live in the barracks! But he hardly ever interfered with the partying, and when he did pop out of his room, we all knew we had gone too far. Soooo hard to believe that was 37 yrs ago!!!
Patricia

Little Rock, AR

#1085 Oct 9, 2012
Paul Huber wrote:
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Yep, I had forgotten about the steak night at the snack bar. Went a couple of times. But... I also remember that they made a killer Philly steak sandwich. Never forgot that stupid sandwich, but then the "munchies" always made things taste better. I also serve two more tours of Germany. Heidelberg (Schwetzingen/1st PERSCOM), and finally Stuttgart (Nellingen Barracks). Loved them both,and even though Heidelberg was special as my daughter was born there, Hanau always will hold an extra special spot. First German tour, and while I too went 100 miles an hour it seems, I will never forget the fun, the parties, and yes, the inevitable piss test! Big "D" was special, and although he always appeared to be gruff, at least to me, he was a kind and giving person. Hard to imagine even today, a SGM actually choosing to live in the barracks! But he hardly ever interfered with the partying, and when he did pop out of his room, we all knew we had gone too far. Soooo hard to believe that was 37 yrs ago!!!
OMG! I remember the snackbar steak and lobster nights too! I went to one on Pioneer but mostly went to the one on Fliegerhorst. It was awesome. Seems to me I remember going to one in the messhall on Fliegerhorst too!
Patricia

Little Rock, AR

#1086 Oct 9, 2012
Paul Huber wrote:
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I think when I was there it was called E Tonys. I know it was on the way back from the 5 Pffening Play House for us, and we always stopped there on the way back. Great times and great food, but damn that walk back would sometimes take forever. It's a wonder I never got hit crossing that street! That and the KFC! Munchies would kick in, and I don't care if it was snowing or pouring down rain we HAD to go across the street and get some, and then go back thru the scrutiny of the guard gate. Such fun times!!!
Tony's was at the back gate of Pioneer. E. Tony's was in Wolfgang by Old and New Argonner Housing areas. We used to skip school there after they built the High School (sadly it is gone now) and we also skipped school at the Rod n Gun Club and USO (we got caught there).
Mike Bennett

Brooklyn, NY

#1087 Oct 9, 2012
Any one from 881st Maint co / 548 LEM co during the years 1986 to 1988. My section chief was SSG. Sanders.We were all 52D's. Had great times in Hanau, Oktoberfest. A few from our company spent time training with the Germany Army which was fun. Our field duty(when we had it) was like being in he boy scouts. I cant believe it has been 26 years and it feels like yesterday, Been back a few years ago, no more boat, tony's was open looks like it was ready to close. Nice Mexican bar across from tony's. Still have the Red light club near the train/bus station in Hanau. Will never forget the great times here in Germany and in my unit.
Bill Coughlin

Stratford, CT

#1088 Oct 9, 2012
Paul Huber wrote:
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Yep, I had forgotten about the steak night at the snack bar. Went a couple of times. But... I also remember that they made a killer Philly steak sandwich. Never forgot that stupid sandwich, but then the "munchies" always made things taste better. I also serve two more tours of Germany. Heidelberg (Schwetzingen/1st PERSCOM), and finally Stuttgart (Nellingen Barracks). Loved them both,and even though Heidelberg was special as my daughter was born there, Hanau always will hold an extra special spot. First German tour, and while I too went 100 miles an hour it seems, I will never forget the fun, the parties, and yes, the inevitable piss test! Big "D" was special, and although he always appeared to be gruff, at least to me, he was a kind and giving person. Hard to imagine even today, a SGM actually choosing to live in the barracks! But he hardly ever interfered with the partying, and when he did pop out of his room, we all knew we had gone too far. Soooo hard to believe that was 37 yrs ago!!!
D was the best. I can't tell you the number of times I hit him up for a payday loan. He would give me the scowl and then pull out his wallet. We would go fishing every Sat morning during the warm months at Campo Pond (thats gone to from what I understand). He had a strange relationship with his German wife, she lived in Weurzberg I think and he would only drive up to see her on the off Sunday. He had a cold one time and I asked if he was taken anything for it, he said "If I take something for it it will be gone in 7 days if I don't it will gone in a week" typical D. I regret not keeping in closer touch with him. I had a son born in Heidelberg
M Bolan

Maple Grove, MN

#1089 Oct 11, 2012
I was stationed in Hanau on 2 different occasions. 1st time was with 26th S&S Co on Pioneer. I was a mechanic in the Motorpool. CPT Mad Max Frenzel was the CO and was responsible for the Best of the Rest slogan on the bay doors. That was like 1981 to 1984 I beleive.
2nd time I was stationed with 71st Ord for a short time before moving to the 53rd HMSC as the motor sergeant. After 53rd deactivated I moved to 8th MT BN S4 as the batallion motor sergeant. During that time it changed to the 18th CSB. I worked with a lot of good people during that time and miss the Gyro's from the little stand there in Grossauheim and of course the Binding bier.... not so much the Licher bier though. Not fun holding the ankles of someone doing situps during pt after a night of licher bier.....!
M Bolan

Maple Grove, MN

#1090 Oct 11, 2012
rosie jackson wrote:
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I didnt get to the company untill 1987 but whom was the commander at 26 s&S .
When I was there it was CPT Frenzel.... I cant remember the 1sg's name but remember he was a scarey guy. SFC Alverez was the motor sergeant when I left so he probably still was when you were there.

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