Jodi Arias

There are 259 comments on the ABC News story from Jan 18, 2013, titled Jodi Arias. In it, ABC News reports that:

The murder trial of Jodi Arias has been punctuated with increasingly angry calls for a mistrial and the arguments have cited a woman's claim of being stalked and menaced, suggestions of ethnic bias and personal jibes among the lawyers.

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Lonnie

Cookeville, TN

#82 Mar 7, 2013
I think this poor little honey has been through enough. She is clearly a victim and does not need to spend time in jail.
Thehalloweenquee n

Springdale, AR

#83 Mar 7, 2013
MacB wrote:
And yes, in hindsight it's pretty clear TA shouldn't have allowed her into his home or kept having sex with her. Had she warned him what she might do if he displeased her, I seriously doubt he would have. But I'm sure she was very nice to TA, too - right up until she wasn't. And yes, there are boyfriends she didn't kill. But maybe these ex-boyfriends couldn't have afforded her the life she saw with TA, so she dated them for the attention until a bigger better deal like TA came along (I think the previous guy was losing his house). But she would be 'nice' to most people because she craves admiration and craves being liked. In fact, these people appear very normal to those who aren't too close to them or haven't displeased them. They're cool with people who buy their act, feed their ego and don't confront them on anything. It's when someone stops doing what they want or starts seeing them for who they really are that the rage, malice and vengefulness appears. But JA is not crazy. She's perfectly sane, she knows right from wrong (she just doesn't feel the rules should apply to her) and she should absolutely be held 100% accountable and responsible for her actions.
Wow....finally someone with some sense! There is no real evidence of abuse or battered women's syndrome in this case at all! She was free to move across country and she is the one who drove to him, killed him, didn't call for help, smiled in her mugshot, lied even when they presented evidence that she was there (intruder story)... And to top it all she seemed not only willing in theses ex games but an instigator! Travis was finished with her on a serious level and was going to Cancun with another girl. Jodi was determined this was not gonna happen! This poor guy was certainly no saint but by all accounts he treated her well, even by her own admission. Travis died a horrible death. It was complete overkill. Way more than necessary to get away from an abuser.
An observant observer

Allentown, PA

#84 Mar 7, 2013
Am i the only one wrote:
I'm sorry but I do not believe Jodi Arias had the intent to kill Travis. If she did, why wouldn't she kill him As soon as she got there? Why have sex with him and take all these pictures? I believe he was abusive and she killed to save herself.
She wanted the pleasure of making Travis feel like she accepted their breakup. She wanted the ultimate revenge for what she felt was the final rejection by Travis. For months, the anger, jealousy and rage was mounting more and more. She wasn't going to let Travis destroy and deny their relationship that Jodi wanted to continue and build. She wanted to eventually marry Travis and have a family. Her twisted mind wouldn't take no for an answer. Killing him at the door would have been risky and no satisfaction enough to relieve all that pent up rage. Nope. It had to be sneaky, unsuspecting and above all, a complete shocking surprise. The ultimate Bon Voyage' present. Unfortunately, it wasn't the gift that keeps on giving. Jodi used her soft syrupy voice on Travis and lured him with sex. He'd be too aroused to figure out what was to come next. Then when he had his fun and was relaxed and unassuming, he went in to take a shower where Jodi knew he'd be vulnerable...then..BAM, Jodi got her revenge. This is what she was planning and waiting for. She was waiting to see that surprised shocked look on his face when she plunged that knife deep into him. Makes me wonder what she said to him as she was doing it. Maybe: Hey Travis, looks you won't be going to Cancun afterall.
An observant observer

Allentown, PA

#85 Mar 7, 2013
Correction: Looks like..
cecelia

Wichita, KS

#86 Mar 8, 2013
La La Land wrote:
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She was probably hoping that after they had a romp in the hay, Travis would change his mind about taking another woman to Cancun. He very likely refused to change his mind and Jodi then went ballistic on him. In her twisted mind, Jodi probably felt that she could persuade Travis to do what she wanted him to do. Travis probably realized at that point that he wasn't going to convince her that it was over. I'm guessing that he likely told her to leave and she then went into a fit of rage. It appears that Jodi wasn't going to take no for an answer. Travis biggest and fatal mistake was letting her in the door that day. Maybe that wouldn't have mattered since she had 3 gas cans. One of those gas can may have been intended to set his place on fire, just in case he refused to see her that one last time.
MAYBE she was invited in, mho, she let HERSELF in. we only have the words of a psycho stalker & absolute LIAR to draw conclusions from. she went with intent if she couldn't change his mind, HE wasn't going either. please AZ kill this psycho slutskank
Trial Watcher

Ashfield, MA

#87 Mar 8, 2013
An observant observer wrote:
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She wanted the pleasure of making Travis feel like she accepted their breakup. She wanted the ultimate revenge for what she felt was the final rejection by Travis. For months, the anger, jealousy and rage was mounting more and more. She wasn't going to let Travis destroy and deny their relationship that Jodi wanted to continue and build. She wanted to eventually marry Travis and have a family. Her twisted mind wouldn't take no for an answer. Killing him at the door would have been risky and no satisfaction enough to relieve all that pent up rage. Nope. It had to be sneaky, unsuspecting and above all, a complete shocking surprise. The ultimate Bon Voyage' present. Unfortunately, it wasn't the gift that keeps on giving. Jodi used her soft syrupy voice on Travis and lured him with sex. He'd be too aroused to figure out what was to come next. Then when he had his fun and was relaxed and unassuming, he went in to take a shower where Jodi knew he'd be vulnerable...then..BAM, Jodi got her revenge. This is what she was planning and waiting for. She was waiting to see that surprised shocked look on his face when she plunged that knife deep into him. Makes me wonder what she said to him as she was doing it. Maybe: Hey Travis, looks you won't be going to Cancun afterall.
She stated that she didn't know who he was taking to cancun.Perhaps her intent was to find out who it was and kill the Other Woman but Travis wouldn't tell her the name, That enraged her so she killed him instead.Just a theory but either way premeditated.
Judgeandjury

Cleburne, TX

#88 Mar 13, 2013
Life in the pen. She had her chance to come clean. Her lies discredit her testiony. She sliced him then shot him. She admits it. The sex is not relevant at all. They won't give her the needle because they cannot prove she planned it...but she did! Casey Anthony's attorney played it the right way; keep the liar off the stand. Lesson is, keep your guilty lying mouth shut. She could have walked.

Read up on Sociopaths....
Good day

United States

#89 Mar 15, 2013
I am at a movie till 10

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#90 Mar 15, 2013
MacB wrote:
Clearly they were in a dysfunctional toxic co-dependent relationship - I just think TA played the would-be hero/rescuer role, but eventually he realized something was way wrong and wanted out - and JA played the helpless waif/ victim and used guilt and feigned vulnerability to control him (the dependent party, while seeming weaker, is often actually the abuser and passive-aggressive controller in co-dependent relationships.) JA is provocative and seductive - especially to a conservative guy like TA (look up "taboo") and he kept getting sucked back in by his desires and her needs/ guilting/ offers of sex/ manipulations (look up BPD "hoovering"). When this stopped working and she realized she couldn't control him or the relationship, JA felt perfectly justified in killing him (look up BPD/NPD rage and BPD "splitting"). All TA had to do was say no to her. That's it. For other consistencies - take a look at BPD "distortion/smear campaign", BPD/NPD "projection", BPD reaction to "perceived or real abandonment/ rejection", BPD demeanor when lying, BPD "blaming to avoid personal responsibility". Even her saying "yes" all the time is due to a desperate need for acceptance. Before you start to feel too sorry for her, this is only "needed" so she can latch on and form a self-dealing, parasitic relationship, because she feels entitled to use any person as a tool to obtain her own ends. She jumped in the other guys arms the next day because she simply did not care what she'd just done - she felt no guilt or responsibility for TAs murder, because she lacks that fundamental capacity.
Scott Peck, MD, wrote a book about personality/character disordered/sociopath individuals called "People of the Lie." These people can appear absolutely normal at first blush, but he recognizes them as "evil". He asks what a "normal" (having normal capacity for empathy, sense of personal responsibility right and wrong, and a conscience) person's reaction is when confronted with an "evil" individual. Seems like "fear" or "revulsion" would top the list. But they don't. Confusion does. Because any "normal" simply cannot fathom a sociopathic, personality disordered individual's mind. You're seeking to attribute "normal" human reactions and rational cause and effect to a person that is missing some very vital mental and emotional components (not that she's "crazy". She knows right from wrong, she just ignores it when it suits her). All TA had to do was deny her what she wanted and felt entitled to. The rest of it is noise.
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No offense intended and I am not trying to "hit up" on you, but I think I love you. Brilliant post! Thank you.
flanders art

Long Beach, NY

#91 Mar 20, 2013
JerseyGrl wrote:
This case is not hard guys. Of course its first degree murder. Your telling me if a man stole a gun, rented a car to drive all that way, had sex witb an exgirl, slit her thoat, stabbed her 29 times, and shot her in the face, you would think it wasnt first degree murder? Comon now.You CANT possibly be that taken in by a cute face and a tightass! Just because he was a player(if thats really the case) doesnt dismis the fact that you cant take someone elses life...no matter what she looks like.
...Point well taken. Yes this is first degree. If the jurors
come back with anything less; what would they have been thinking?
Lonnie

Cookeville, TN

#92 Mar 20, 2013
Don't send a vicitm to jail.
Anonymous

Folsom, CA

#93 Mar 20, 2013
Lonnie wrote:
Don't send a vicitm to jail.
You must be one STUPID person, you can't even spell victim. She admitted to killing him, the only thing is should she fry or she should sit and rot in jail. I hope that she rots in jail and has to live every day with the knowledge she murdered Travis for her own selfish reasons. She is a victim of her own device
Observant observer

Allentown, PA

#94 Mar 21, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
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You must be one STUPID person, you can't even spell victim. She admitted to killing him, the only thing is should she fry or she should sit and rot in jail. I hope that she rots in jail and has to live every day with the knowledge she murdered Travis for her own selfish reasons. She is a victim of her own device
If Jodi spends the rest of her life in prison, she won't be spending it thinking about why she's really there. She has no remorse. The only thing she'll be sorry about is that she wasn't able to get away with fooling the jury. She once said she felt no jury will ever find her guilty. We'll have to wait and see if her prediction comes true. I don't see how any jury could let her off considering all of the evidence. Manslaughter is a possibility, although imo, she deserves murder one. I don't wish the DP on anyone, but for the heinous murder she perpetrated onto Travis, she deserves nothing less then LWOP.
MacB

Los Angeles, CA

#95 Mar 21, 2013
Rambling Rose - Thank you for the vote of confidence.

O. O.- agreed, she has no capacity for empathy, only self-absorbtion - but the most painful punishment for JA would be to cancel the "Jodi Show" both in and out of prison. Cut off media access, strictly limit visitation, and put her on DR where she'd have little to no contact with the GP (which would happen if she gets DP, I believe - she'd be in lockdown in her own cell, by herself, 23 hours a day). Without an "audience" to manipulate, and without the access to outside attention - it really doesn't matter whether it's positive or negative or even who she gets it from - she is nothing. Push her mute button. Take away the host(s) and let the parasite starve in her own abyss.

Also, is anyone else galled by the fact that by the end, AZ will have spent over a million bucks on her defense? And pay incompetent, inept, and clinically moronic "expert witnesses" to try to mislead the jury for days on end for $250 bucks an hour? And pay dull-witted, plodding attorneys who really aren't employable anywhere else (no wonder the hefty dude talks so slow and the woman repeats everything ad nauseum - they get paid by the hour and want to gobble as much as they can from the public trough) who keep bringing in baseless, irrelevant "defenses" that are obviously lies, and even if they were true, are not applicable on their face? I mean, wouldn't that money have been better spent funding a battered women's shelter or scholarships or feeding hungry kids? Or even filling potholes for that matter? What a toxic, parasitic, waste she is

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#96 Mar 22, 2013
guest

Hillsboro, WV

#97 Mar 22, 2013
I saw that on Jane Valez Mitchell and was like shocked. Why that is not allowed into evidence I will never know. It would be the number one motive for the murder, jealousy. I'd have also have asked to enter the video interrogation where she says she was jealous.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#98 Mar 22, 2013
As best I could tell from the video clip, it could be that journalists found it and not Martinez. There are quite a few things that has not been shown or allowed in trial. I do not know if that is Martinez's decision or something he does not know about (budget restraints).

First I read about the Motion For Protective Order on the Justice for Travis site on Facebook, then I looked at HLN site to find the video. It was also on the Facebook page but I had not read that far down to see it.

I do not know if Arias' billing records are an issue (as has been discussed on the FB page) but the ticket to Cancun being changed from Arias to someone else seems more "prejudicial" to me.
guest

Hillsboro, WV

#99 Mar 22, 2013
It would appear that the journalists have more nose for uncovering this stuff than the lawyers. I wish the stalking had been admitted, especially her sneaking in through the doggie door or the hacking his facebook and bank accounts. I just read her and Travis' myspace pages and she posted stuff about him after she killed him, tributes to him...it's one post is about his character he played but it was a week or so after his death. Sad. She stole that gun a week before killing him and she trashed him, she will probably be famous.

I listened to her saying she couldn't believe she did it, couldn't believe she was capable. I read the same thing in "The Only Living Witness" where Ted Bundy said the exact same thing! Very telling.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#100 Mar 22, 2013
There are more journalists covering this case than there are LE working on it. Also, do not forget about budget cuts and all that (although it has already cost $800K+). There was an article I posted from 1999 (on the PTSD my keester thread) regarding a case Martinez was prosecuting. It gave me a small insight on how he might operate (not using all 'evidence' but only using what fits with his idea to prosecute). There may not have been enough evidence to support the doggie door theory. I do not know.

As for Arias stealing her grandfather's gun, there is no proof of it but it is reasonable to believe she did. At least I hope that is what the jury will think. I wonder what other information (or drama) will come out before this trial is all said and done?
guest

Hillsboro, WV

#101 Mar 22, 2013
I believe all the circumstantial evidence would have been somewhat convincing, maybe not entirely. I hope she's convicted and at least gets life. I wonder if the jury will come out afterward and see all this and be like "we should have given her the death penalty" after all is said and done.

Interestingly, Martinez convicted the woman who poisoned her husband who was dying of cancer and put her on death row. If someone poisoning a man gets death, surely a woman who overkills will.

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