Jodi Arias

Jan 18, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: ABC News

The murder trial of Jodi Arias has been punctuated with increasingly angry calls for a mistrial and the arguments have cited a woman's claim of being stalked and menaced, suggestions of ethnic bias and personal jibes among the lawyers.

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MacB

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LAGuy - since you seem to be the self-appointed expert for BWS, you must see that neither TA nor JA fit any known profile of abuser or abused. Oh, wait, Jodi says she's been abused? Right, and she wasn't in AZ when TA was killed either. No, that was yesterday.

There is no actual, objective, evidentiary basis for this defense. It's a play for sympathy where absolutely none is deserved. Take a few things out of context and twist and distort them until they grossly misrepresent the truth and objective reality, and you can make Gandi look like an abuser.

It's actually a great disservice to women who actually are battered.

Occam's Razor - the most apparent answer/solution is usually the right one.

Those who disagree with your far-fetched, biased, insupportable rationalizations when there are simply no facts, evidence, or testimony to support them are thinking. And frankly, it seems they're doing a much better job of it than you.
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LAGuy - since you seem to be the self-appointed expert for BWS, you must see that neither TA nor JA fit any known profile of abuser or abused. Oh, wait, Jodi says she's been abused? Right, and she wasn't in AZ when TA was killed either. No, that was yesterday.
There is no actual, objective, evidentiary basis for this defense. It's a play for sympathy where absolutely none is deserved. Take a few things out of context and twist and distort them until they grossly misrepresent the truth and objective reality, and you can make Gandi look like an abuser.
It's actually a great disservice to women who actually are battered.
Occam's Razor - the most apparent answer/solution is usually the right one.
Those who disagree with your far-fetched, biased, insupportable rationalizations when there are simply no facts, evidence, or testimony to support them are thinking. And frankly, it seems they're doing a much better job of it than you.
Hey Mack, u lack an understanding of these players and the their
lifestyle ... breaking down a female mentaly and sexually can have a bad outcome ... do you know about the tapes about him wanting to tie her to a tree .. then all of the kinky dehumanzing texts .. it was an ongoing BDSM tinged relationship

Are you a Brother, just curious

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LAGuy - since you seem to be the self-appointed expert for BWS, you must see that neither TA nor JA fit any known profile of abuser or abused. Oh, wait, Jodi says she's been abused? Right, and she wasn't in AZ when TA was killed either. No, that was yesterday.
There is no actual, objective, evidentiary basis for this defense. It's a play for sympathy where absolutely none is deserved. Take a few things out of context and twist and distort them until they grossly misrepresent the truth and objective reality, and you can make Gandi look like an abuser.
It's actually a great disservice to women who actually are battered.
Occam's Razor - the most apparent answer/solution is usually the right one.
Those who disagree with your far-fetched, biased, insupportable rationalizations when there are simply no facts, evidence, or testimony to support them are thinking. And frankly, it seems they're doing a much better job of it than you.
And the opposite of Occam's Razor is the Jodi Arias method - baffle them with bullsh__!
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San Pedro Res - apparently, you lack an understanding of BDSM. The mantra for BDSM is safe, sane and consensual. That's the opposite of the characteristics of abuse or BWS. BDSM and BWS have no statistical correlation - There is no greater tendency toward (non-consensual) abuse among BDSM culture than the general population - in fact, there may be less.

But the real problem is your underlying assumption that either BWS or BDSM were factors in this murder. There's no evidence or supportable reason to believe that either were present in this relationship at all. Millions of couples talk dirty to each other every day. Maybe even a little kinky. But the vast majority don't kill each other.

The only reason this is being discussed, years after after the fact, is that JAs other lies were found out and disproved, so she had to come up with a new and improved CON. Because that's what this. Another smokescreen to confuse issues and evade responsibility for her actions. She is a very engaging, deceitful con artist who believes she's entitled to say and do whatever she wants, whenever she wants, because she's special and the rules don't apply to her. Her feelings become "facts" to her - regardless of objective reality. She "believe" whatever she says, even if it contradicts what she said five minutes ago. Baffle 'em with bullshit is right.

JA is a very convincing liar with a special gift for eliciting sympathy, which she's now using to evade the consequences of a vicious, pre-meditated ambush killing of some who had the audacity not to do whatever she said. Obviously, THIS fits the criteria for abuse. She didn't get her way, so she set him up and waited until he was most vulnerable, then "controlled" him right out of existence.

Obviously, if anyone breaks down anyone mentally and sexually, it can have a bad outcome. There's just zero reason to believe that happened in this case. Also, it would take YEARS of a deeply intertwined, co-dependent obsessive, escalating domination/abuse cycle to come close to justifying or even explaining the savagery of her attack.

These two people dated casually for a few months (at least as far as TA was concerned) went on a few trips, had some fun, were physically attracted and had sex, maybe with a little kink thrown in, and all was hunky dory. The problem came when TA tried to LEAVE the relationship, and when JA finally realized she could not "own" and control him. So, the most obvious explanation is that due to JA's NPD, BPD, entitlement and control issues - and NOT provoked or justified by anything TA did - she planned to kill him, she killed him, then did everything she could to avoid the responsibility and consequences for her actions. And she still is.

Again, BDSM and BWS are very different, neither seems to have been present in this relationship by any objective standard, and neither were not factors in this vicious and pre- meditated murder. In my opinion.

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Do not agree with forensics.
Think she held the gun on him at first, scared the hell out of him, perhaps told him some stuff like he would never stick his dick anywhere again...he told her to put the fkn gun down, moments later lunged for it and shot dead...in the pic of his face he looked stunned...then the stabbing began.
Don't forget that the Mesa PD Detective went with the theory for some time that Travis was first shot.
OMG! Not only are you delusional but now you are a forensics expert!
How foolish of the local cops to not call you up when they were sifting for evidence.
You had better start praying for this parasitic, evil lying witch straight away. She's going down for the count and you can take that to the bank.
This poor jury must be throwing up on their lunch breaks!
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LA Guy wrote:
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That was funny, btw, I was always the Dom.
Have you partaken or had the fantasy, most
women do.
This is LA Guy, posting from a sophisticated
LA perspective.
Go to "Jody Arias Self Defense Topix" for a more
complete picture.
Most woman????
Are you kidding me?
I'll tell you what "most woman" would like to say to you right now, but it isn't fit to print!
What a wanker!
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San Pedro Res - apparently, you lack an understanding of BDSM. The mantra for BDSM is safe, sane and consensual.
Was in "The Scene" for years. Tighten up you game, you are mostly repeating mush from websites. Obvious you are not an insider, nor have knowledge of the mindset of the players and possible consequences.

Are u Gay, only ask since my perspective of "The Scene" is from a hetero level.
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Attempting the Mary Winkler defense.
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I think she is very nice and hot.
I liked it when she said her mom would spank her with a wooden spoon.
I also would like to spank her with a wooden spoon.
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MacB wrote:
Why did you ask if I was a Brother?
The LDS is a force to be reckoned with.
Mighty strong numbers in the area.
Much sexism in the religion.
MacB

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LA Guy wrote:
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Was in "The Scene" for years. Tighten up you game, you are mostly repeating mush from websites. Obvious you are not an insider, nor have knowledge of the mindset of the players and possible consequences.
Are u Gay, only ask since my perspective of "The Scene" is from a hetero level.
LaGuy - You're whiffing the point, so I'll keep it real simple for you. BDSM had zero to do with this case. BWS had zero to do with this case. The only psychological and physical abuse in this case were by JA (stalking, homicide). JAs false allegations are a classic BPD distortion or "smear" campaign. Just noise.

She prepared to kill him, she killed him, and then tried to avoid responsibility for it. TA did NOTHING to provoke his brutal murder. Talking dirty and kinky sex don't justify quasi - decapitation. She's BPD, NPD, or some combination thereof. That's why she killed him.

It doesn't take a genius or repeating stuff from websites to say this. It just takes knowing a few basic facts, and applying a little logic, education and common sense.

Good luck.

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did anybody else catch the "NEVER again my friend" when he was joking about her singing the nat'l anthem? i think she went to Az with express intent to do him harm and how do we know Travis initiated that visit? maybe she showed up unannounced,(crawling through a doggie door?) why would she try to NOT leave a trail if this was a "make-up" session? if she REALLY loved him why would she over-kill him then drive to Utah to "make out" with her next available obsession?
They charged it right and i for one hope they follow through
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Jodi Arias was STALKING Travis A....In the phone sex tapes being played in court, SHE IS TRYING TO PLANT THE SEED in Travis's mind, that she is the marrying type and she is the one for him.....

Twenty-seven stab wounds, cut to throat, and gun shot to his face., OMG. SHE CAME TO HIS HOME, knowing she was going to kill him.

She was not the girl going to Cancun with him.
He had no interest in marrying her.
I believe she was going to burn down his house, to hid the evidence.

She is a very manipulating person, dangerous person, who needs to be behind bars the rest of her life.
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The last several posters are merely repeating mush, not thinking.

You cannot make your case by repeating a chronololghy of events.
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LaGuy - You're whiffing the point, so I'll keep it real simple for you. BDSM had zero to do with this case. BWS had zero to do with this case. The only psychological and physical abuse in this case were by JA (stalking, homicide). JAs false allegations are a classic BPD distortion or "smear" campaign. Just noise.
She prepared to kill him, she killed him, and then tried to avoid responsibility for it. TA did NOTHING to provoke his brutal murder. Talking dirty and kinky sex don't justify quasi - decapitation. She's BPD, NPD, or some combination thereof. That's why she killed him.
It doesn't take a genius or repeating stuff from websites to say this. It just takes knowing a few basic facts, and applying a little logic, education and common sense.
Good luck.
Many are borderline BP .. I played with a lot of sub females...accept it or not, they get real twisted, dellusioinal and dangerous from the indoctrination.
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Do you doubt TA was a Dom?
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I do believe Jodi loves Travis even though they had a dark day. Aswell I believe Travis would want know harm to Jodi.

Wes
I believe she sensed him moving on, the Mexico trip WITHOUT her was her breaking point. I think she was jealous of the girl he was taking and decided if she couldn't have him no one would. She knew she wasn't marriage material for him. If he would've said " Jodi I love you, come to Mexico with me" he would still be alive. Where is the proof that he abused her? There is no proof. There is proof that she killed him viciously and had no real injuries of her own. If this were a male who killed a female none of this nonsense would be entertained for a second!!!

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LA Guy wrote:
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Do not agree with forensics.
Think she held the gun on him at first, scared the hell out of him, perhaps told him some stuff like he would never stick his dick anywhere again...he told her to put the fkn gun down, moments later lunged for it and shot dead...in the pic of his face he looked stunned...then the stabbing began.
Don't forget that the Mesa PD Detective went with the theory for some time that Travis was first shot.
gun shot last. look at images. shell casing on top of blood. little bleeding in face or brain suggests that may have already been dead when shot.
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LA Guy - No. No evidence to indicate TA ever engaged as a "Dom" with anyone else - or really even sex, that I'm aware of. He's just a guy talking dirty because a girl says it turns her on. I think you are associating everything through your experience and trying to justify a murder/ attempted cover-up through an extremely far fetched, baseless theory. Your personal experiences and/or personal attraction to JA (i.e. That you could've "handled her" as you said) does not qualify you to make clinical edicts.

BPD/NPD is plenty dangerous enough on its own. And it actually fits the facts and JA's behavior prior to and after murder. She's not 'crazy' in the sense that she didn't know what she was doing and that it was wrong - and rationalizing and justifying herself (as you both are doing) is classic BPD avoidance of personal responsibility and "distortion" or "smear" campaign. I could go on and on about how the clinical aspects match with the behavior - literally hundreds if not thousands of examples in the information that's on the record.

I can only hope that no member of the jury is as taken by JA and secceptible to her bullshit as you appear to be. This 'abuse' is a total CON a murderer is using to avoid responsiblity for her pre-meditated, vicious, unwarranted actions and you are falling for it (and even embellishing it) hook, line, sinker, rod, reel and boat.

I guess I keep responding to you because it's annoying to see an example of the kind of enabling these sociopaths can manipulate others into in order to help them obscure reality, cover their tracks, evade responsibility for their actions and in this case, try to get away with murder. But like the man said - there's one born every minute.






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I think she is one hot chick and should never spend a day in jail.

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