4 months of persisitant pain after va...
Tom

Malaysia

#21 Oct 29, 2013
Hi, can anybody share which urology doctor is good to refer?
Mohammmadh

Saudi Arabia

#22 Dec 4, 2013
Take them out surgically laparoscopic
By agood general surgery doctor or a good urologist....
Most likely urology is pussy and they will refer u to pain managment & u will keep on suffering
Search for agood laparoscopic general surgery doctor and convens him to take at least the on in ur groin by the same aproach of laparoscopic hernia repair
I was operated to take the left groin fucking coils
They just grasp them out & pull them without injuring the artery ....very easy ....plan for the right
But the issue the coils in the back I still dont know
How to take them out yet but nothing is impossible you just need to have a good surguon welling to explore and help ...
Mohammmadh

Saudi Arabia

#23 Dec 4, 2013
re everyone
I am 29 y I am a resident doctor in University Hospital
I had a varicocele Embolisation 7 months ago
They told me its very simple & easy & painless & you will not feel any thing at all after one month !!!!
I did it And it was the most painful 7 months in my life
After the embolisation I had a sever inguinal pain that doesnt go ....I was on pain killer all the time
Until I decided that I cant live like this anymore and started my tough journey first I went to the useless urologist & the Radiologist who got me into this thing
There response was it happens sometimes !!!!!!
To have pain after embolisation & it might not go away at all !!!!! & told me to see pain specialist...!!! Just like that ..
Why the hell they didnt tell me that before ?????
I really hate the day that I did it
It changes my life ......no jim ....painful ejaculation....
Discomfort in the back & groin all the time ....I cant where tight belt ....for 7 months ....
What kind of life is this ???
Any how I went to many general surgey doctors who was really scared to touch the coils or the area
Until I found one brave excellent general surgery fellow who understood my pain & decided to help me and to operate one me to take out at least the groin coils at first step .....
And within a week I did ct scan & he putted a plan to take the left groin coils first & leave the left back & right side coils later ....
I had a laparoscopic left groin coils removal feel one month ago ....& know i much better now ....
Right side still ach ....with plan to take them after seeing the result in the left because it have never done before I am telling u its worth it ......
It might be the solution for all who is suffering pain from these dam coils for ever
Mike

Canada

#24 Dec 19, 2013
After removing the coils did you back pain go away also did the abdomen pain go away? I have some questions is it possible for me to get your email.
Mohammmadh wrote:
re everyone
I am 29 y I am a resident doctor in University Hospital
I had a varicocele Embolisation 7 months ago
They told me its very simple & easy & painless & you will not feel any thing at all after one month !!!!
I did it And it was the most painful 7 months in my life
After the embolisation I had a sever inguinal pain that doesnt go ....I was on pain killer all the time
Until I decided that I cant live like this anymore and started my tough journey first I went to the useless urologist & the Radiologist who got me into this thing
There response was it happens sometimes !!!!!!
To have pain after embolisation & it might not go away at all !!!!! & told me to see pain specialist...!!! Just like that ..
Why the hell they didnt tell me that before ?????
I really hate the day that I did it
It changes my life ......no jim ....painful ejaculation....
Discomfort in the back & groin all the time ....I cant where tight belt ....for 7 months ....
What kind of life is this ???
Any how I went to many general surgey doctors who was really scared to touch the coils or the area
Until I found one brave excellent general surgery fellow who understood my pain & decided to help me and to operate one me to take out at least the groin coils at first step .....
And within a week I did ct scan & he putted a plan to take the left groin coils first & leave the left back & right side coils later ....
I had a laparoscopic left groin coils removal feel one month ago ....& know i much better now ....
Right side still ach ....with plan to take them after seeing the result in the left because it have never done before I am telling u its worth it ......
It might be the solution for all who is suffering pain from these dam coils for ever
DOCTOR H

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#26 Dec 20, 2013
AND you can check the operation video by yourself on youtube ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch...
DOCTOR H

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#27 Dec 20, 2013
Alsalam Alikum

just pray for me

hopfully i was helpful to all people who is suffering
Mehedi Hassan

Kista, Sweden

#29 Dec 30, 2013
Hi, I went through that procedure on 25th of September, 2013. It was a moderate pain after I went through the precess. Then I went to see the doctor, they said its normal. Now after 1 year, I can say that I have no pain :) and I feel completely normal :)
Mike

Canada

#30 Dec 31, 2013
Mehedi Hassan wrote:
Hi, I went through that procedure on 25th of September, 2013. It was a moderate pain after I went through the precess. Then I went to see the doctor, they said its normal. Now after 1 year, I can say that I have no pain :) and I feel completely normal :)
What procedure did you go through. Also was it in 2012 not 2013 ? Was it the embolization or the removal of the coils? Also what kind of pain did you have and what was the time frame for it to resolve?
Tee

Centurion, South Africa

#31 Feb 19, 2014
Thank you for sharing guys, I am supposed to go for Varicocele embolization next week and now I think I am going to change my mind over this procedure... Thanks again for sharing.
Ian

Sydney, Australia

#32 Mar 11, 2014
Hi Guys,

I to seem to be having problems after varicocele coil embolisation....but after reading through this forum I believe that some of the comments 'maybe' misleading.

I am not a Dr but I have been researching this problem for 6 months now.
I had two operations, coil embolisation...and some scherotherapy to fix bi-lateral varicoceles. Second operation was because some co-lateral pathways opened up.

I think that the problem is not the coils themselves...but an in-completed embolisation procedure.

If you read the medical paper ( http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/20/9... ) Drs Yigal Gat and others who seem to be the leaders in this Interventional Radiology procedure you will realise that a full and complete embolisation is difficult.
In this article they clearly state that there will probably be some retroperitoneal co-lateral veins....that is through the abdominal membrane into the back.

What I think happens to some of us is that the Dr did not seal all the co-lateral veins...or new co-laterals opened as blood tries to re-route itself away from the sealed off spermatic veins.

We are early in the use of this procedure and therefore suffer the consequences of our Drs adapting to new methods of treating varicoceles.

Maybe some of you who are having problems should ask your treating Dr to more thoroughly examine you for new co-lateral venous pathways that have developed since your treatment.

There is also the question o be asked if since some drainage pathways have been sealed off then maybe some of the smaller arterial pathways need to be sealed to compensate for the restricted return.

Plenty of medical papers on this subject can be found here :
http://www.pirion.co.il/index.php...
ram

Seoul, Korea

#33 Mar 20, 2014
hi 2weeks ago i fell something in my scrotum. And i try to research in google and i found out that i have varicocele. i went to the hospital and the urologist said that i have varicocele.can some advance me here? still im not deciding if im going to take the surgery.
bmth

Bournemouth, UK

#34 Mar 24, 2014
Hi had the emolisation done about 8 months ago, I'm 22. Before the op it was bareable , it gave me a lot of pain when standing for long periods of time and shooting pains in the testicle and down my inner leg... I only decided to get the op because the veins were becoming bigger, it was 5 years from when the problem first started. So , after the op , the following evening , I went to the toilet and as I begun to urinate I passed out on the floor??? I went to the neurologist but they insisted nothing was wrong...since then I have not had a decent night's sleep, the testicle hurts incredibly 24/7 ! Through out each day I will often get shooting pains, somtimes the pain is so intense it renders me immobile and in serious agony, this lasts from 10sec-5min ... Walking hurts , lifting hurts , any sort of exercise hurts , I've kinda become used to the pain as the 'specialists' insist everything is normal. I have also had quite an increase in swelling from time to time . I don't take any pain killers as I'm on other meds. Is this all NORMAL? Has anyone ever had a successful op ?
bmth

Bournemouth, UK

#35 Mar 24, 2014
ram wrote:
hi 2weeks ago i fell something in my scrotum. And i try to research in google and i found out that i have varicocele. i went to the hospital and the urologist said that i have varicocele.can some advance me here? still im not deciding if im going to take the surgery.
Depending how bad it is right now? I had mine 8 months ago and I've been in serious pain since, read some.of the comments
I-get-it

Lakeland, FL

#37 May 7, 2014
I had the same exact thing. The coils were placed in pain got worse, fever, white count raised. Eight years later they were removed finding they were taking over my body inside. I don't recommend getting them.
Mike

Richmond Hill, Canada

#38 May 9, 2014
I-get-it wrote:
I had the same exact thing. The coils were placed in pain got worse, fever, white count raised. Eight years later they were removed finding they were taking over my body inside. I don't recommend getting them.
How did they remove your coils and what kind of issues were you having?. Did the issues resolve after removing the coils. We're there any side effects to removing the coils?
Paolo

Liverpool, UK

#39 Jun 18, 2014
Hi - I'm a 28 y/o. I had a left testicular varicocele embolisation in December 2013. I'd had the varicocele for about 15 years without any trouble, but I was starting to get unbearable pain in my groin when running. They advised I have the procedure, of which I did. I had some pain in the days after and went back to the hospital where they told me I had a hernia. As you can imagine, this left me extremely angry as I'd had a pointless embolisation. Anyway, the procedure that I didn't actually need has been a moderate success in terms of significantly reducing the varicocele, however, 6 months on and I am suffering from bouts (not all the time, just when exercising) of abdominal pain just to the right of my left hand hip and in the direct route of the inguinal canal. Ever since the procedure the left hand side side of my abdomen has felt very tight. I've been to Urology who tell me the pain is because I have a small hernia in my groin, I have seen the hernia specialist who tells me I don't have a hernia and that it's the procedure. All in all, very worried that this will get worse and honestly, if I knew of all these potential pain risks, I would have never had the procedure done! My next steps are to return to my GP and ask to be referred to a different hospital and get a scan. I wish there was some sort of support group out there for those who have had this procedure done - to me, it's not a routinely carried out position - I've since found out from my GP that I'm the first person to have it done who is registered at that practice! It's also not as safe as all the statistics suggest either! Anyway, would love to keep in touch with any of you who is going through this and how you're / you've dealt with things. Best wishes!
Fabian

Switzerland

#40 Jun 25, 2014
I had an left testicular varicocele embolisation in 1994. Two year later start suffering when I do some sports. The pain grow, until 2004, I cannot do bike. In 2011 I stopped running. And at beginning of 2014 I cannot do even home cleaning... And the suffering was MAXIMUM all the day. All surgeon or urologist I see, say "we cannot do anything", go to pain doctor.. One COILS Experts say "it is one inch to low", but I cannot do anything.
BUT one wonderfull surgean, see I am suffering every day and night (sleeping 3h max was a dream) and he do the job, last Friday. He remove the two coils.
I feel fully again my left leg. 18 years of suffering because Doctor follows the rules of stupid sellers, I am not OK with that
.
Even if the surgery is really complicated : to found a coil (metal spring) INSIDE a veine (veine most of all dead, without blood). In a 3D space... without IRM, because coils a mettalic, is really difficult.
But after a little more than 3 hours of surgery and some check to a scanner, he was able to remove them... And my life is back again. Less than one hour after the surgery, I felt my left leg so well.

IMPORTANT : Better choose a surgean, that is an expert of "laparoscopy" because it is more usual for him to work on a 3D complexicty. Anyway searching some non-visible coils in a space full of matter is finding a needle in a haystack.

Best wishes for everyone !

Since: Jul 14

Frostburg, MD

#41 Jul 6, 2014
Quick question to Three3 and anybody else out there. I had the varicocele coil embolization on my left side after varicoceles were found with some scrotal swelling. I had the embolization done about a month ago and have been gradually experiencing more pain and slight swelling up and down each day with pain in the exact spot as you (inner left thigh and groin area) and always adjusting my left scrotum. Did you eventually recover from this? Please let me know if this is normal.
Three3 wrote:
I undertook a Varicocele Embolization 2 months ago. Initially over the course of 2 years i had a small cyst. Doctors said nothing to worry about.
I began feeling a numbing pain on my inner left thigh and groin area when sitting i constantly had to and still now have to readjust my left scrotum.
After speaking with a urologist I was told the pain comes from a Varicocele.
Having had the op i feel the pain is more focused now to my left scrotum. It is getting worse and affecting my mood. Was told to expect this for about 2 months but surely this should not be getting worse.
Am going to see uroligist again re this. Will keep posting.
Mike

Markham, Canada

#42 Jul 18, 2014
Hi Fabian just wondering how the recovery has been after the removal of the coils. I am planning on having mine taken out at the end of September. Do you feel 100 % again now ?
Fabian wrote:
I had an left testicular varicocele embolisation in 1994. Two year later start suffering when I do some sports. The pain grow, until 2004, I cannot do bike. In 2011 I stopped running. And at beginning of 2014 I cannot do even home cleaning... And the suffering was MAXIMUM all the day. All surgeon or urologist I see, say "we cannot do anything", go to pain doctor.. One COILS Experts say "it is one inch to low", but I cannot do anything.
BUT one wonderfull surgean, see I am suffering every day and night (sleeping 3h max was a dream) and he do the job, last Friday. He remove the two coils.
I feel fully again my left leg. 18 years of suffering because Doctor follows the rules of stupid sellers, I am not OK with that
.
Even if the surgery is really complicated : to found a coil (metal spring) INSIDE a veine (veine most of all dead, without blood). In a 3D space... without IRM, because coils a mettalic, is really difficult.
But after a little more than 3 hours of surgery and some check to a scanner, he was able to remove them... And my life is back again. Less than one hour after the surgery, I felt my left leg so well.
IMPORTANT : Better choose a surgean, that is an expert of "laparoscopy" because it is more usual for him to work on a 3D complexicty. Anyway searching some non-visible coils in a space full of matter is finding a needle in a haystack.
Best wishes for everyone !
Fabian

Switzerland

#43 Jul 22, 2014
How I feel ?
Wonderful, my leg is back (all felt).

I suffer increasingly from 18, First, I could not put myself in certain positions.
There 10 years, I could not even ride a bike.
There 3 years, I needed to stop footing.
And last year, no more ski...
And the suffering at the beginning of this year was 10 on a scale of 10 !

But now, after the removal of two of the four coils they put inside me 18 20years ago, it really is a miracle.
No more pain at all.

My joke is : "I can sit down for hours without suffering at all ! "... for a software programmer ... it's better ;)

Do not hesitate to ask, I will answer with my experience :)

Best wishes for everyone !

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