Prostatitis - half year of active tre...
Mark

Baltimore, MD

#49 Jul 10, 2012
superman2011 wrote:
having suffered chronic prostatitis and doing 7 months of urology research and reading countless failure and success stories...I will put in my 2 cents
First off to the guy stated use nitrofurantoin and flagyl. neither of those medications can penetrate
the prostate. nitrofurantoin may do wonders for an e coli UTI but as stated it can not enter the prostate gland neither can amoxicillin many of these drug names being thrown out can not be used for prostatitis.
onto enterococcus faecalis which is a very strong infection. a man on a forum actually took 6 antibiotics prescribed by his doctor over a 10 month period. sensitivity testing was done in a laboratory...the enterococcus faecalis of this patient was found to be susceptible to many drugs they were all tried and all failed. as a last ditch effort avelox was used avelox is only used when all other drugs fail. avelox is used in hospitals to treat deadly infections that kill people. it is the strongest antibiotic pill that is available. and it is very expensive... avelox was prescribed to said patient for 6 weeks. patient said all prostatitis symptoms were completely gone in 2 weeks
and you can't cure bacterial infections with herbs
and vitamins .. that is just dumb people.. broccoli treatment ? lets apply the non sense to a man dying of pneumoniae..do you think some herbs and broccoli are going to get rid of his pneumoniae ? of course not don't be asinine. by the way pneumoniae bacteria also causes prostatitis it's called klebsiella pneumoniae...
some advice for sufferers ..get a 3 glass urine test done.
cephalosporin antibiotics work wonders for prostatitis but doctors generally only use cipro, doxy, sulfa etc..by the way doxycycline is usually only successful on STD prostatitis caused by organisms such as chlamydia and gonorrhea.. doxycyclineis is usually not effective at killing the different strinas of bacteria found in the prostate. example doxy only kills a couple of strains of Escherichia coli..and most strains of Escherichia coli are resistant to doxycycline and tetracycline antibiotics...
cephalexin covers almost all of the organisms and their particular strains that cause prostatitis accept with the exception of enterococcus faecalis...
if e coli or another organism is suspected that is non STD a 1 - 2 gram shot of Ceftriaxone should be given then 4 weeks of cephalexin prescribed. this would knock out 80% of the chronic prostatitis cases...
instead stupid doctors give 250 mg shots of Ceftriaxone which is not enough to amount to anything and then prescribe doxycycline. so basically you get a tiny shot that weakens said bacteria then it grows back immune when Ceftriaxone runs out and the doxy doesn't do squat. truth is most doctors have no clue how to treat prostatitis and very few urologists do either.... because they do not take the time to research and do case studies. I have done 7 months of research plus read clinical trial studies
I even had to tell my urologist how to treat my prostatitis when the bacteria was located because he wanted to give me an ineffective drug that would not have killed the organism
you have to do urology research and spend the time studying if you don't you will end up with prostatitis for life. I also ended up with an epididymitis infection when the prostatitis infection flowed backwards into the testicle.
and the whole time the doctors said it was all in my head.. what a bunch of quacks I tell ya..you should have seen that dumb ass urologists face when I tested positive for e coli prostatitis. I kept telling him just because the urinalysis is clean it does not mean I don't have a prostate infection. he of course wouldn't listen to me. in the end I had a 3 glass urine test done and proved his ass wrong and got an apology to


Hi superman my name is Mark is there anyway I could get in touch with you thru email or phone ? My email is [email protected]

Since: Jun 12

Jonesboro, AR

#50 Nov 13, 2012
david wrote:
Superman - I am 31 and have had a messed up lower urinary tract for a few months since I got an std (trichomonas) which was really hard to get rid of, and I'm not entirely sure that i have gotten rid of it. I took tinidazole 1g twice a day for 10 days, combined with Levofloxacin. About a week later though, I got the flu, and as I started to get better, I had burning sensation while urinating. I went to see a different urologist again and he said I might have a prostatitis and ordered a semen culture. I didn't have any prostatitis symptoms but tested positive for e. coli, but at a very low level.
I have been having my first symptoms of prostatitis and I didn't know what to do because I went to 2 urologists and one prescribed me exactly what you said, and the other just nitrofurantoin and told me the stronger treatments might do me more harm than good in the long run. So for now I have just taken the nitrofurantoin, although just for 5 days so far but I don't feel any better. I waited a while because I thought the root of the symptoms be in my head but I'm pretty sure now the root of my symptoms is coming from about 2&1/2 inches inside my rectum
The big question I had is if you ran into any issues of chronic trichomona infection in your research. I can't find much information but I have a strong feeling I might not have gotten rid of it completely
superman here,not using my other account anymore. nitrofurantoin is a good antibiotic but it doesn't penetrate the prostate. have you tried metronidazole (flagyl) usually that works pretty good for prostatitis caused by trichomonas. Trichomoniasis is a sexually transmitted disease caused by the parasitic protozoan Trichomonas vaginalis. Trichomonas vaginalis causes Vaginitis in women. that is not something you want hanging around in your prostate.

A shot of Zithromax probably wouldn't hurt either just in case you have mycoplasma, uroplasma or Chlamydia as well.
Gianfranco from Switzerla

Switzerland

#51 Nov 21, 2012
Hi! I just agree with all what you wrote! I had to do an eradication of Helicobacter pylori for 3 weeks: Levoflox and Clarythromycin. When I stopped the therapy, after 3 days I had an acute Prostatitis - with Leuco in Urine and some Enterococcus faecalis...10 Cyproxin, than again 10 days Cyproxin and than Vibramycin...no help, still burning symptoms...should I take Avalox or a cephalexin? Please reply, I need help! Thx GF
Daryl

Sydney, Australia

#52 Nov 26, 2012
I have been reading these posts for a while as i also have urinary, epididymis problems. Still being tested and waiting. I agree with Superman. That many Doctors are the problem. Once they leave with their qualification they stop learning, just when they started getting to some basic understanding of thier chosen profession. Everyone else in society has to continualy upgrade thier quailifications to maintain there employment. I have argued with many Doctors in the past about incorrect diagnosis regarding myself, my friends and family. And of course they will always tell you its in your head. Yes, well it is all in my head. Its called common sense and basic intelligence. Be careful, Doctors kill.
Eduardo

Madrid, Spain

#53 Dec 9, 2012
Hi Superman (MOS), I have faecalis in my prostate as shown in my last semen tests. I have been prescribed Nitrofurantoin but from the comments above it sounds like it is useless since it doesn't reach the prostate. Is Avelox the only way to kill it? Any side effects?

Thank you Superman and everyone who could help.
Regards from Spain.

Since: Jun 12

Jonesboro, AR

#54 Dec 9, 2012
Eduardo wrote:
Hi Superman (MOS), I have faecalis in my prostate as shown in my last semen tests. I have been prescribed Nitrofurantoin but from the comments above it sounds like it is useless since it doesn't reach the prostate. Is Avelox the only way to kill it? Any side effects?
Thank you Superman and everyone who could help.
Regards from Spain.
Nitrofurantoin can't penetrate the prostate at all. You'd have to use a drug ending in floxacin for Enterococcus faecalis. such as ciprofloxacin,
levofloxacin(levaquin) Ofloxacin or Moxifloxacin(Avelox). Avelox seems to penetrate better than the others and seems to work a little better on
Enterococcus faecalis, it is an expensive drug though,$350 for 3 weeks.
GTX

Greece

#55 Jan 14, 2013
There is no treatment for prostatitis
and this is from someone who has tried all possible up to date
even research drugs and more than 500 massages along with antibiotics
it is not only due to the bacteria in your prostate
99% of the men around you have bacteria in their prostate
the problem is more neuroimmuno-endocrinological that means that multiple factors play their role, most notably hormones and neurotransmitters.
Its like in chronic fatigue syndrome. One sufferer gets one simple virus like CMV or EBV and he is sick for life, and others have 15 viruses in their bodies and feel no issue at all.
You have to understand that if you want to live through prostatitis. It is how your receptors, cytokines and hormones are affected through the infections not due to the actual infections themselves.
I have tried cipro+avelox+doxycycline together
then a cephalosporin+levaquin+doxycyc line together
then glimbax+avelox+dalacyn together
multiple antifungals
injecting antibiotics in the prostate
finally intravenous vancomycin 100 euros per day treatment for 3 weeks (the most powerful class of antibiotics available for strep infections) in a nephrology clinic
then finally other combinations and research drugs from japan (newest classes of fluoroquinolones to which bacteria have never been exposed before)
results less than dissapointing
all this along with painful drainage massages more than 300 up to today
allright it have to admit symptoms improved like 25-30%
and they stayed like that for a couple of years then got worse
before i couldn't sit in a chair now i can drive for hours without feeling pain,thats all the improvement i got
all the rest of symptoms remain, pain in testicles, and prostate, stinging pain in penis, urgency to urinate etc etc
i still massage my prostate and get white infectious fluid out ever other day
this disease is incurable (probably due to the calcifications too, probably due to the fact that chlamydia and staph/enterococcus hide in many phases(active/cryptic/propagat ing) in ones immune system and offcourse due to hormonal and other factors
but
what the real deal is that cutting down smoking, caffeine, and exercising (resistance training) which uplifts your hormones (especially testosterone levels conversion rates and ideal cortisol utilisation) was the best approach
not that it heals but the blood stasis is managed and you feel better by far
if you believe that you can be treated by antibiotix... you are completely mistaken and only going to hurt yourself (i suffered a year of side effects post those treatments, most of the time bed ridden from the quinolone headaches, vision and tendon issues)
the only thing you will manage is to make infections completely resistant like i have done and so many other people and end up with cancer :(
my treatment period lasted for 8 months more or less with no less than 3 abx agents simultaneously plus very painful drenching massages
i have known at least another 50 people who have tried this treatment and much much much more and all failed
their improvement is between 15-30%(rare) and it wanes over the next few years :(
Peter Stown

Catonsville, MD

#56 Jan 14, 2013
GTX wrote:
There is no treatment for prostatitis
and this is from someone who has tried all possible up to date
even research drugs and more than 500 massages along with antibiotics
it is not only due to the bacteria in your prostate
99% of the men around you have bacteria in their prostate
the problem is more neuroimmuno-endocrinological that means that multiple factors play their role, most notably hormones and neurotransmitters.
Its like in chronic fatigue syndrome. One sufferer gets one simple virus like CMV or EBV and he is sick for life, and others have 15 viruses in their bodies and feel no issue at all.
You have to understand that if you want to live through prostatitis. It is how your receptors, cytokines and hormones are affected through the infections not due to the actual infections themselves.
I have tried cipro+avelox+doxycycline together
then a cephalosporin+levaquin+doxycyc line together
then glimbax+avelox+dalacyn together
multiple antifungals
injecting antibiotics in the prostate
finally intravenous vancomycin 100 euros per day treatment for 3 weeks (the most powerful class of antibiotics available for strep infections) in a nephrology clinic
then finally other combinations and research drugs from japan (newest classes of fluoroquinolones to which bacteria have never been exposed before)
results less than dissapointing
all this along with painful drainage massages more than 300 up to today
allright it have to admit symptoms improved like 25-30%
and they stayed like that for a couple of years then got worse
before i couldn't sit in a chair now i can drive for hours without feeling pain,thats all the improvement i got
all the rest of symptoms remain, pain in testicles, and prostate, stinging pain in penis, urgency to urinate etc etc
i still massage my prostate and get white infectious fluid out ever other day
this disease is incurable (probably due to the calcifications too, probably due to the fact that chlamydia and staph/enterococcus hide in many phases(active/cryptic/propagat ing) in ones immune system and offcourse due to hormonal and other factors
but
what the real deal is that cutting down smoking, caffeine, and exercising (resistance training) which uplifts your hormones (especially testosterone levels conversion rates and ideal cortisol utilisation) was the best approach
not that it heals but the blood stasis is managed and you feel better by far
if you believe that you can be treated by antibiotix... you are completely mistaken and only going to hurt yourself (i suffered a year of side effects post those treatments, most of the time bed ridden from the quinolone headaches, vision and tendon issues)
the only thing you will manage is to make infections completely resistant like i have done and so many other people and end up with cancer :(
my treatment period lasted for 8 months more or less with no less than 3 abx agents simultaneously plus very painful drenching massages
i have known at least another 50 people who have tried this treatment and much much much more and all failed
their improvement is between 15-30%(rare) and it wanes over the next few years :(
==========

I have to disagree with you here, it depends on what is causing your infection. I know 2 friends of mine that have been cured completely after 2 years of suffering prostatitis symptoms.

Please don't discourage people with you comments, you may not be able to cure your infection but does not mean others will not get cured..

Thanks

Since: Jun 12

Jonesboro, AR

#57 Jan 16, 2013
GTX wrote:
There is no treatment for prostatitis
and this is from someone who has tried all possible up to date
even research drugs and more than 500 massages along with antibiotics
it is not only due to the bacteria in your prostate
99% of the men around you have bacteria in their prostate
the problem is more neuroimmuno-endocrinological that means that multiple factors play their role, most notably hormones and neurotransmitters.
Its like in chronic fatigue syndrome. One sufferer gets one simple virus like CMV or EBV and he is sick for life, and others have 15 viruses in their bodies and feel no issue at all.
You have to understand that if you want to live through prostatitis. It is how your receptors, cytokines and hormones are affected through the infections not due to the actual infections themselves.
I have tried cipro+avelox+doxycycline together
then a cephalosporin+levaquin+doxycyc line together
then glimbax+avelox+dalacyn together
multiple antifungals
injecting antibiotics in the prostate
finally intravenous vancomycin 100 euros per day treatment for 3 weeks (the most powerful class of antibiotics available for strep infections) in a nephrology clinic
then finally other combinations and research drugs from japan (newest classes of fluoroquinolones to which bacteria have never been exposed before)
results less than dissapointing
all this along with painful drainage massages more than 300 up to today
allright it have to admit symptoms improved like 25-30%
and they stayed like that for a couple of years then got worse
before i couldn't sit in a chair now i can drive for hours without feeling pain,thats all the improvement i got
all the rest of symptoms remain, pain in testicles, and prostate, stinging pain in penis, urgency to urinate etc etc
i still massage my prostate and get white infectious fluid out ever other day
this disease is incurable (probably due to the calcifications too, probably due to the fact that chlamydia and staph/enterococcus hide in many phases(active/cryptic/propagat ing) in ones immune system and offcourse due to hormonal and other factors
but
what the real deal is that cutting down smoking, caffeine, and exercising (resistance training) which uplifts your hormones (especially testosterone levels conversion rates and ideal cortisol utilisation) was the best approach
not that it heals but the blood stasis is managed and you feel better by far
if you believe that you can be treated by antibiotix... you are completely mistaken and only going to hurt yourself (i suffered a year of side effects post those treatments, most of the time bed ridden from the quinolone headaches, vision and tendon issues)
the only thing you will manage is to make infections completely resistant like i have done and so many other people and end up with cancer :(
my treatment period lasted for 8 months more or less with no less than 3 abx agents simultaneously plus very painful drenching massages
i have known at least another 50 people who have tried this treatment and much much much more and all failed
their improvement is between 15-30%(rare) and it wanes over the next few years :(
If you can't get rid of the prostatitis then why not just have the gland removed instead of laying their suffering ?
James

Harrison, NY

#58 May 2, 2013
I want to share my success story. I contracted Bacterial Prostatitis on July 2010. I was 24 at the time. The infection was E-coli, Candida and Enterococcus Faecalis. The first course of antibiotics got rid of the E-coli and the Candida but not the Enterococcus Faecalis. I had multiple courses of antibiotics thereafter including: Sulfamethoxazole Cephalexin, Augmentin (two courses of 2 weeks and after 1 year of 30 days). My last positive culture came back saying I had Serratia bacterial infection. I tried various “natural treatments” you can find online like vitamin C, Cranberry juice, coconut oil, Cayenne pepper but nothing worked. After two years of failed treatments I visited an Infectious disease specialist who finally found a cure. He put me on Levaquin (orally) and Ceftriaxone (intravenously). After 24 days my cultures came back negative for the first time in two years.

My symptoms were never bad. Just redness and infrequent tenderness.

Some more details: The intravenous antibiotics (Ceftriaxone) required a pic line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripherally_ins... . I also had to get and MRI.

As far as how much this cost, I was lucky I had insurance. My insurance got billed for for over $22,000 for the treatment that worked. If you don’t have insurance expect the following: intravenous antibiotics -$10,000, MRI -$2000, PICC line placement -$3500 (it is considered minor surgery), lab work, doctor’s visits, and intravenous visits were the rest. I ended up paying about $3,000 out of pocket because the insurance the best but you can schedule a payment plan and pay over a few years if your bills are high.

The Infectious Disease doctor was Eugene French and I highly recommend him if you are in the Tri-State area. He is based in North NJ, just google his name. If you do end up needing Intravenous Antibiotics, Dr French does them in his office. His staff is great and he can have up to 20 people in there getting treatment at the same time. Some antibiotics take 10-15 min some take 2-3 hours to administer and you have to be there every day. You might have to take time off work if your treatment requires Intravenous antibiotics. You might have to go on disability if you can’t adjust your schedule at work.

Here is the doctor’s link
http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-euge...
http://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/348948/...

All in all, if you have a detectable recurring infection you should definitely consult an infectologist. Every case is specific but my experience showed me that if you find the right doctor you can get rid of this nasty bacteria.

If you have any questions posts here and I will reply back
Tommy

Ajka, Hungary

#59 Jun 12, 2013
In my case no bacteria was ever found, did tests for aerobes, anaerobes, protozoans and STD several times. Had multiple courses of cipro (10 days - did nothing), doxy (10 days - slight improvement) and levofloxacin (4 weeks) which was effective but I relapsed within a month after sitting on cold surfaces (plastic chair). Then 12 weeks of levofloxacin which was a fatal mistake.
Now I have fungal prostatitis and terrible side effects (joint, tendon pains, vision problems) from the levaquin all worse then the prostatitis itself.
SO NEVER TAKE FLUOROQUINOLONES MORE THAN 4 WEEKS IN FULL DOSE NO MATTER WHAT!
Use combination antibiotics for short periods several times instead these would work better than single ones long term - you have to look for the ones that have synergistic effect - check out PubMed.
eg.:doxy + macrolides
ofloxacin/cipro (not levaquin)+ doxy
Herbal remedies can also work well with antibiotics and try to improve your immune system and protect your liver and kidneys with antioxidants, milk thistle, minerals - vitamins, lots of fluid etc.
NOTE: All abx cause some damage to your kidneys and liver so you have to carefully adjust the dose and duration of treatment.
Libby

London, UK

#60 Jul 18, 2013
Dear superman,
I hope you are still on this site your posts have really brightened my day and I'm feeling very very down. I essentially have 'female prostatitis' where the infection is in the glands that come off the urethra. I have an awful awful symptoms associated with it....the dreaded brain fog. At the moment my life is over. It had recently been detected that I have enterococcus as well as E. coli infection. I have had it for 18months and have had numerous oral antibiotics.
I am hopeful that my new doctor that has found the enterococcus is going to give me Iv abs that both the bacteria are sensitive although I know he likes to start with nitrofuritoin as he thinks the infection is in my bladder but I know it isn't its in the gland. So he is barking up the wrong tree. I have also got an appointment with another doctor about injections into the gland. I just hope they can get the right abs in high enough concentrations to rid me of this once and for all.
I think superman is right it is the fact we don't get the right bacteria identified in the first place and aren't initially treated with antibiotics aggressively enough. That is the reason the bacteria become so resistant.
Superman what is your email I would love to correspond with you I have also spent months and months researching this infection my email is [email protected]
Libby

London, UK

#61 Jul 18, 2013
TheManOfSteel wrote:
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If you can't get rid of the prostatitis then why not just have the gland removed instead of laying their suffering ?
Superman what is your email would you mind if I corresponded with you, which antibiotic was it that eventually got rid of the enterococcus? My email is [email protected]
doppie

Sudan

#62 Jul 19, 2013
i have this infection once i am a child i had kidney infection when i was 7 years old and so it become chronic prostate infection and the bacteria is staphylococcus haemolyticus i tried many antibiotic such as cipro clindam chloramphenecol and menevem injection with no any action once time before i took ceftriaxone injection and it do well for short time or as i think now days i ignored this disease for nothing to do more now i am 29 years old >>>
alibi

London, UK

#63 Jul 26, 2013
Hi please help...i have had symptoms for aboit 6 months...pain in testicles, stinging in the penis, burning and itching in the testicles and generally unpleasant. Ive been treated with ciproflaxin for four weeks and nothing. Noticed my semen was snot coloired then could not ejaculate. Finally got dr to run semen test. Came back with entra coccus. Prescribed amoxicillin which made the symptoms worse. Went back to dr to plead for pain killers and he prescribed doxycillin my semen is clearer now and a semen test said did not have infection, however symptons still persist. I have m.e aswell my life is a living hell and i dont feel dr knpw what they are doing?
Ryan

Richmond Hill, Canada

#64 Sep 13, 2013
Hi there, ive suffered for about a year now with chronic prostatitis I've tryed all kinds of antbiotics but the minute I go off them to see if my syptoms are gone i start to feel a uncomfortable feeling above my penis burning and pain down their. But that's not all i could probably live with that if that was it..but I also feel like I am getting sick ache body,headache ,very tired, just feel like I might have the on set of the flu. I really don't want to be on antbiotics but I just can not work or function on a daily basis with feeling like I have the flu its just bloody terrible.if I could only get these flu symptoms to go away I could live with the other shit. I've tryed a lot of things but nothing works.
Wisnia

Choroszcz, Poland

#65 Nov 7, 2013
James, hello, i have the same symptoms ... only rednesss.... where u get cured, redness dissapear?:)Could I contact You in some way?
Stavros

Baia Mare, Romania

#67 Dec 2, 2013
Question for the Man of Steel .

Hi everyone . I have tested for E. Faecalis in the semen in the last 3 years . My only pain is the inflammation of the semen tubes next to the testicle . I have never had a 3 - 4 glass test . The urine is clean at every test .
I read everything about E. Faecalis in semen , I have done magnetic-resonance of the prostate , shoes chronic prostatitis , nothing else .
I have tried TMP for 6 weeks , no results , now I'm on Levofloxacin 500mg /day on 12 weeks treatment ( at 8 weeks now ). The symptoms next to my testicle come and go . I read somewhere here that a 4 week Ceftriaxone with Levofloxacin will knock out E. Faecalis . What do you think Man of Steel , for the last 4 week Levofloxacin treatment should I get Ceftriaxone ? I know that Ceftriaxone is not agaist strains of E. facecalis but I read somewhere that other bacterial strains in the prostate sometimes don't show up in any test . What do you think ?
ManofSteel

Jonesboro, AR

#68 Jan 7, 2014
Stavros wrote:
Question for the Man of Steel .
Hi everyone . I have tested for E. Faecalis in the semen in the last 3 years . My only pain is the inflammation of the semen tubes next to the testicle . I have never had a 3 - 4 glass test . The urine is clean at every test .
I read everything about E. Faecalis in semen , I have done magnetic-resonance of the prostate , shoes chronic prostatitis , nothing else .
I have tried TMP for 6 weeks , no results , now I'm on Levofloxacin 500mg /day on 12 weeks treatment ( at 8 weeks now ). The symptoms next to my testicle come and go . I read somewhere here that a 4 week Ceftriaxone with Levofloxacin will knock out E. Faecalis . What do you think Man of Steel , for the last 4 week Levofloxacin treatment should I get Ceftriaxone ? I know that Ceftriaxone is not agaist strains of E. facecalis but I read somewhere that other bacterial strains in the prostate sometimes don't show up in any test . What do you think ?
I've lost that account as I can't remember the password anymore, but yeah it sounds worth a try just don't take ceftriaxone less than 1 gram, because if you go less than that it could kill some and leave some and then grow resistant and ultimately come back, been there done that. If you have the cash prostate massages could help the oral antibiotics penetrate better, or if you have a wife or girlfriend have her massage your prostate with a come hither motion, not a poke or finger motion but a come hither motion, the first prostate massage will be painful but after that they should start helping, because first massage you will be blocked up in your prostate and it will help unblock.
GFC

Zurich, Switzerland

#69 Jan 8, 2014
Dear Superman
Please help...I suffer from chronic prostatitis since 13 month. I my Urine they found Enteroccocus faecalis and bactericides cloche. I was treated with 1g/day of Levofloxacin for 3 weeks. The symptoms came back, than I get Tetracycline 200mg/day for 3 weeks. the symptoms came back. what do you recommend you to do? A combination of 2 ABX, Avalox? I have strong burning symptoms - I wake up every night, please help! Thank you very much! GF

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