Where in the US can I get a HYDROCELE...
Hdave58

Haines City, FL

#798 Oct 23, 2012
I have had the ultra sound about 6 years ago, my size then was a lime size, but my Dr. did not say anything about a hydrocele, so two months ago I show my Dr. the grapefurit size I am now and he says you have a hydrocele and need surgery. I asked if there was any other way and he said no and gave me a Urology Dr. name who he said he knew for 20 years and trusted him. So I call the office and ask if I had this done, would this Dr. accept my insurance in full payment and not charge me a $25.00 visit charge every time I went there and not charge the differance in what the insurance would pay and bill me the rest, well you all know the answer and that was NO...So I then started to do the online search about this problem and even talked to my insurance company telling them that if a Aspiration was done it would cost about 10 times less that an operation and i would have a 75% success rate and they approved of it. So I called another Urology Dr. office which is in my insurance plan and they refused to do a aspiration sayng it will not fix the problem. I think I should be able to choose what I want to do as it is my body. Anyway I can't find any Dr. to do what I want so I want to ask where do I buy the equipment to do it myself?
Marc

State College, PA

#799 Oct 23, 2012
Hdave58 wrote:
I have had the ultra sound about 6 years ago, my size then was a lime size, but my Dr. did not say anything about a hydrocele, so two months ago I show my Dr. the grapefurit size I am now and he says you have a hydrocele and need surgery. I asked if there was any other way and he said no and gave me a Urology Dr. name who he said he knew for 20 years and trusted him. So I call the office and ask if I had this done, would this Dr. accept my insurance in full payment and not charge me a $25.00 visit charge every time I went there and not charge the differance in what the insurance would pay and bill me the rest, well you all know the answer and that was NO...So I then started to do the online search about this problem and even talked to my insurance company telling them that if a Aspiration was done it would cost about 10 times less that an operation and i would have a 75% success rate and they approved of it. So I called another Urology Dr. office which is in my insurance plan and they refused to do a aspiration sayng it will not fix the problem. I think I should be able to choose what I want to do as it is my body. Anyway I can't find any Dr. to do what I want so I want to ask where do I buy the equipment to do it myself?
Hello, I discovered my hydro last year. It happened slowly so I didn't really notice until it started to get the size of a large egg. I did tons of research and found this forum (THANK GOD!). I do not have insurance so the operation is out of the question right now. I went to a general practitioner to make sure I didn't have cancer etc. I tell you I never felt so upset in my life. This "doctor" left the room for about 2-3min.(I think he went on the internet to look up hydrocelle) when he returned he did the light test(I had to show him how to do it) He asked me how I new all this info and I told him how I've been doing hours of research, he just rolled his eyes. Well needless to say I was charged $250(for 25min) for this jerk to tell me everything I already new. I left the office so upset and alone. I am so glad for this forum. I suggest reading all the info over and over. I was scared to do my first drain, but once I did it I know I can do it as many times as needed. Trust me I feel NO pain when draining and afterwords you can go about life. In my case when I drain some fluid leaks into my sack which the body absorbs within 2-3 days. I have only drained twice with NO infection etc...I believe I will have to do this every 2-3 months. I use Bactine and spay it on my sack, I wipe down needle and syringe with alcohol. I use the following needles: http://www.imed.com/p/becton-dickinson_precis... As far as the syringe I got the 60ml but it is way to big. I am ordering a smaller syringe soon (20ml-30ml) as pulling on this while holding your hydro is hard to do. After watching a video on youtube of the hydro operation I think that even if I had insurance I still might prefer to self drain. It really is that easy. If you have any questions just ask.

Since: Oct 12

Haines City, FL

#800 Oct 23, 2012
Hi Marc, I live in Tampa, FL., and its a small world, I was born and raised in Allentown, Pa. I have been to State College but that was over 30 years ago, anyway thanks for the reply. So I went to the site you posted and it shows a needle but what else do I need to get? Could you please list all the things I need? And I understand you say there is no pain, how can that be? I have read other reports on here and some say they use a tube and let gravity drain it out, have you heard that one?
Marc

State College, PA

#801 Oct 24, 2012
Hdave58 wrote:
Hi Marc, I live in Tampa, FL., and its a small world, I was born and raised in Allentown, Pa. I have been to State College but that was over 30 years ago, anyway thanks for the reply. So I went to the site you posted and it shows a needle but what else do I need to get? Could you please list all the things I need? And I understand you say there is no pain, how can that be? I have read other reports on here and some say they use a tube and let gravity drain it out, have you heard that one?
Hello, When I injected the needle I was pleasantly surprised that all I felt was a small pinch. Here is what I do: I darken my bathroom. I wipe down syringe and needle with alcohol. I spray sack with Bactine. I sit on a chair and I cup my hydro and pull it tight to the sack. I use a flashlight to spot any veins. I position the needle away from veins and in front side of hydro angled upward. The testicle is located lower back of hydro http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.c... and then insert it just enough to puncture the hydro. Some fluid does leak some from puncture while the needle is in. I slowly pull on the syringe plunger and drain the hydro. The fluid I get is almost clear with a little yellow. after I'm done I remove plunger and pour the fluid in the toilet. I wipe down sack with alcohol and spray with Bactine again. I use a 60ml syringe but it's to big to handle one handed. I plan on getting:http://www.ebay.com/it m/380315199197?ssPageName=STRK :MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1 423.l2649 I did get an enema syphon that I could attach the needle to, but it doesn't give an air tight fit to the needle so I just use the needle/syringe method. I also heard of the needle tube way, but I have yet to find a tube that fits inside the needle. The syringe can be used over again, but must be cleaned. I wash it real good and wipe down with alcohol and air dry with plunger out. The whole thing takes me about 5-10min. and afterwards I can go about things. I do have to tell you that some fluid leaks into the sack so my sack does get a little spongy (scared the heck out of me the first time). But after doing research found that the body absorbs the fluid in a few days. In my research I found that there are guys that want their sack to be filled with fluid (saline infusion) for whatever reason (to each his own). That is not to be confused with our hydro problem. If I can do this anyone can! I was so scared the first time I almost chickened out, but I new I had to do it before it got to big. I have come to the realization that unless this thing repairs its self I will have to do this every 2-3 months. Do I really want to do this? Hell NO!, but in this life you have to take what life gives you and make the best of it. After hearing what guys go through with the operation..pain, swelling, being laid up for a couple days/weeks...I can't afford to take that risk. I'm the working uninsured and can't miss a day of work. No work...no pay. Plus I read that some guys had theirs return even after having the operation. Good luck with what ever you decide and keep us posted. To all you guys that are considering self draining... I say do all the research you can...read these posts on this forum. Good luck to all of you, you are not alone. Marc

Since: Jul 12

Jacksonville, FL

#802 Oct 24, 2012
The end of the bulb syringe tube gets stretched by the plastic insert it comes with. If you cut off about a quarter inch you should get an airtight seal.

Since: May 12

Los Angeles, CA

#803 Oct 26, 2012
Hdave58 wrote:
Hi Marc, I live in Tampa, FL., and its a small world, I was born and raised in Allentown, Pa. I have been to State College but that was over 30 years ago, anyway thanks for the reply. So I went to the site you posted and it shows a needle but what else do I need to get? Could you please list all the things I need? And I understand you say there is no pain, how can that be? I have read other reports on here and some say they use a tube and let gravity drain it out, have you heard that one?
Hello Hdave58,
Please see my posts #706 and #710 on July 13th and 16th, 2012

http://www.topix.com/forum/med/urology/TETU3H...

http://www.topix.com/forum/med/urology/TETU3H...

I think they will answer a lot of your questions.
Good Luck, Brian
Rob

Moran, WY

#804 Oct 26, 2012
Very informative thread - thank you

Wow. I learned a great deal more after reading this whole thread. It took me a few hours but was very informative. Otto AKA Alan Prince, you should have just left it at being part of the percent of those opting for sclarotherepy of which it did not work instead of you ranting and putting on your sour grapes show. Blame your body instead for the failure.

I too am a Chicago guy living right now in Jackson Hole and might see Dr. Levine too at Rush Medical Center when I return. But for now, I will purchase the 19 guage needles and tubing and do the gravity based draining method for my 12 inch softball sized 'cele that was described here. It seems much easier than syringes and pumps in addition. Of course I'll clean everything real good prior to the insertion. Cheers.
leo

London, UK

#806 Nov 1, 2012
can you self aspirate an epididymal cyst/ spermatocele? anyone ever done this before?
hydrotex

Houston, TX

#807 Nov 2, 2012
leo wrote:
can you self aspirate an epididymal cyst/ spermatocele? anyone ever done this before?
I have been self-aspirating a right-side hydrocele for about 2.5 years. The testicle on that side is enlarged and may involve a cyst. This has not hindered aspiration at all.
Self-treater

Brisbane, Australia

#808 Nov 4, 2012
Hey guys - I have a (properly diagnosed) spermatocele which I put up with for several years before I went to see a specialist. He charged me $400 to perform an aspiration with a large syringe (the whole procedure took about 5 minutes) and sent me on my way. After watching what he did I was pretty confident if it came back I could perform the same procedure myself and save myself $400. It was back to the same size within 3-4 months and I've now aspirated it myself a couple of times using a 20ml syringe with a fresh needle attached each time. I apply some topical anaesthetic about 5 mins prior, wipe everything down with a betadine swab, insert the needle being very careful not to pierce something I shouldn't (like a vein or my testicle) and withdraw the fluid. Usually takes a couple of times as my spermatocele seems to hold around 40-50 mls of fluid. It's clear and has the consistency of water. I just went and got the syringe and a few new needles from the local vet but I'm sure you could get them from any chemist as well. Once you get over the horror of having to insert a needle into your own scrotum (and it's really not THAT bad) - I've found it a pretty easy and painless process that has saved me alot of money.

Since: Nov 12

Bronx, NY

#809 Nov 26, 2012
I'm amazed at all the info on here and stories you guys have shared. I'm an uninsured working individual. Over the past 9 or 10 months or so my hydrocele began gracing my life with its presence. It's now probably the size lf a tennis ball, and I have had an ultrasound to confirm that it's a hydro and nothing more serious. All the Dr's are directing me the way of surgery. Being uninsured this would require a great financial commitment on my part, one that I'd most likely be unable to fulfill. All the reading on this thread has shown me that there are other options which I may be able live with and that I'm not as alone as I felt in the beginning. I'm workin up the courage to stab my boys and hope eventually it decides to just go away! Again, thank you for spilling the beans about your beans! I'll update when the deed is done and hopefully my story can help someone too.
Marc

State College, PA

#810 Nov 26, 2012
Klanger wrote:
I'm amazed at all the info on here and stories you guys have shared. I'm an uninsured working individual. Over the past 9 or 10 months or so my hydrocele began gracing my life with its presence. It's now probably the size lf a tennis ball, and I have had an ultrasound to confirm that it's a hydro and nothing more serious. All the Dr's are directing me the way of surgery. Being uninsured this would require a great financial commitment on my part, one that I'd most likely be unable to fulfill. All the reading on this thread has shown me that there are other options which I may be able live with and that I'm not as alone as I felt in the beginning. I'm workin up the courage to stab my boys and hope eventually it decides to just go away! Again, thank you for spilling the beans about your beans! I'll update when the deed is done and hopefully my story can help someone too.
Hey, you are not alone. I felt the same way. If you haven't read my earlier post.#799 and #801. The guys on this forum have been great. I have drained mine four times and each time it gets easier as far as being scared. Good luck and let us know how you do.

Jeremy

San Jose, CA

#811 Nov 27, 2012
A couple of days ago, I drained it for the 2nd time. For some reason, I couldn't get much "juice" out of it---seemed like the needle got clogged. Regardless, just like the first time, it has continued to shrink (a lot) after the draining. It's gone from about a tennis ball to a small kiwi, although I probably didn't get more than 10ml or so out of it. I'd call that a major success.
Maybe somebody else has already suggested this, but here's a trick that I found useful...
The first time I drained it, I felt like I needed a third hand. This time, instead of trying to hold a flashlight and stab myself at the same time, I used a headlight. No, I didn't put the headlight on my head, since that would be useless. Instead, I cinched the headlight strap around my sack and wiener (if you can picture that...), so, the light was held in place under my balls, without any need for me to hold it. I could easily adjust the position and direction of the light with a one finger, which freed up both hands for the delicate needlework.
Phillip

Golden, Canada

#812 Nov 30, 2012
Thanks to this thread I decided to aspirate after putting up with my hydro for over 2 years.
I used a 60c.c. syringe and did the flashlight in the darkened room routine,marked a spot where there were no viens with a marking pencil.

First poke produced a few yellow drops. Second poke hit paydirt and I got a lot of milky white fluid. Third poke was the same.
In all I got half a cup of liquid.

My left testicle has a strawberry sized hydro on it,left it alone for now. The right testicle had a hydro the size and shape of a flattened lemon.
It's now gone and my sack looks normal.

The insertions were surpringly painless. But the vacuam produced by the large syringe did irritate my right testicle and I felt like I had received a light slap in the gonads.
I might also have gone near a vien as there was some pink in the fluid.

All in all it was an easy procedure. Just keep sanitation in mind when doing it and infection should not be an issue.
Marc

State College, PA

#813 Dec 3, 2012
To the guys that have been doing the self draining...have any of you ever noticed any hard spot on the hydro at the place where the needle was inserted? As my hydro has begun to get larger I noticed a small hardness about the size of a small bb. No pain etc..I just noticed when I was looking over my hydro. It could have always been there I may have just not noticed it before.
Julian Kane

Hamilton, Canada

#814 Dec 5, 2012
Overcome Your Hydrocele

Learn all of your options available to get rid of your Hydrocele without surgery.

http://www.hydroceles.net
SamJ

San Antonio, TX

#815 Dec 5, 2012
I would be interested to see what that is all about....
Probably goes like this:
1-Locate hydro
2-Obtain proper size needle and syringe
3-Clean area
4-Stick it
5-Drain
6-Dont hit any veins
7-Be happy!

Not to be skeptical but....

If you are so inclined, send me only $9.99 !
SamJ

San Antonio, TX

#816 Dec 5, 2012
I'm sorry Julian (if that is your real name) but I think that the postings above are a pretty good knowledge base for non-surgical hydrocele treatment. I would be happy to review your document and write an unbiased account and review of it. If it is novel and successful then a glowing review would certainly boost your sales. I self-aspirated about 2 months ago and its about time for a "touch-up" so if you, pardon the expression, have the balls....so do I.
Bill

South Bend, IN

#817 Dec 6, 2012
Wow, this is really funny. Peddling an e-book here when this thread is amazingly helpful in explaining options and providing information for people to make informed decisions about possible treatments.
SamJ

San Antonio, TX

#818 Dec 6, 2012
Bill wrote:
Wow, this is really funny. Peddling an e-book here when this thread is amazingly helpful in explaining options and providing information for people to make informed decisions about possible treatments.
That was my point exactly Bill. The book is probably a copy of all of the posts here!

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