Where in the US can I get a HYDROCELE aspirated?!?

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Paul M

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Feb 1, 2007
 
Surely some MD is willing to do this less expensive, less risky procedure to simply drain my hydrocele with a needle and inject (sclerectomy) the fluid to stop it from re-occurring.
Seems like the only option in the US is SURGERY - expensive and more complications. I don't want someone slicing away down there. I've read horror stories on the forums about what goes wrong.
A study in Toronto comparing aspiration to surgery showed that surgery has complications 5 times more than aspiration
I have to do something before this thing gets bigger, it's already the size of a large grapefruit
Michael Santa Fe

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Sep 6, 2007
 
I'm on the same mission. Let me know what you come up with?
Hope I don't have to go to Toronto!
Stuart in Boynton Beach

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Dec 3, 2007
 
Make it a threesome. I too am looking for the same alternative to surgery and for the same reasons. I can no longer afford to keep going to a new urologist to ask if they will aspirate it only to be told surgery is the only option. I understand the risk of infection with aspiration, but also see the surgical risk statistics - not to mention the high cost. I do not have insurance to cover the operation. Mine is also the size of a very large grapefruit. I know it is starting to affect my mental state so I hope I can find an affordable option soon. I am more than willing to accept the risk of infection with an aspiration if I could only find a physician to do it.
Roger

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Dec 11, 2007
 

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Aspiration of a hydrocele,is a simple procedure that you can due yourself,with little or no pain involved.
Get a 20 guage needle,plastic tubing,small hand held vaccum pump and a collection jar.This might sound odd to you but you can buy all this ,except the needle,at an auto parts store,ask for a brake bleeder kit.The plastic tube connect to the needle and then to the collection jar and the jar to the pump.Make sure everything up to and including the jar is sterilized.Use and autoclave,what you say you don't have an autoclave.An autoclave is just a fancy name for a pressure cooker.Wash your hands and rinse with isopropyl alcohol, drug store item.Sterilize the site where you will inset the needle,make sure no prominent veins are seen,place needle on the selected spot and quickly insert,don't try to push it in slowly.
To make sure this is actually a hydrocele get a bright flashlight and place on the scrotum in a dark room if it glows red like a tail light it is a hydrocele also at the same time you can see where your testicle is located so that you won't stick the needle into it.
You might be wondering if this guy knows what he is talking about,after two hydrocele operations and no improvement I do this about twice a year,for the past 5 year without any problems.
lwarranty

United States

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Jan 2, 2008
 
DO IT YOURSELF - I do not use a vacuum pump however, I am afraid to over-aspirate or remove so much fluid as to cause iritation. I went to Tractor Supply, bought some #20 needles and tube. I sit in a metal chair on a towel, get comfortable, pour a little alky on my scrotum, find a spot just above my testicle, while holding my scrotum tight - causing pressure to hold the hydrocele out, like a water baloon, I push a needle in gently, at an upward angle, until I see fluid, then I put screw the tube to the needle and pull slow and gentle, I have had up to 7 20ml tubes full of fluid at times, but it works great. I have at times, hit a blood vessel and caused some internal discoloration, and other times, pulled the needle out too soon and had fluid build up at the base of my penis or shaft as it continued to drain under the skin. But this is going on 10 years and no other problems... I too went the gauntlet of doctors and operation, no thanks - no more - not ever. My father went through the same misery for years but never tried it himself. My guess is the post before this was performed by a mechanic??? Regardless, it was REAL easy, when I held pressure and started to push the needle in, I was amazed at how little went in before fluid started to pour out! Hope this helps, but remember, some folks get infection from door knobs, I couldn't get it if I licked toilet seats for a living... B-b-b-b-b-careful!
lwarranty

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Jan 2, 2008
 
IN ADDITION - I do this about every three weeks - sometimes because of discomfort and other times to look at a normal scrotum in the mirror. Alas, compared to some folks problems, I love my hydrocele...
Gundo74

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Jan 6, 2008
 
I am relieved to know that I'm not the only one with hydroceles. After reading this do it yourself surgery is becoming more of an option for me. But I Have to know, after you drain it what happens with that little open wound. do you antibotics on it? Does blood still leak out? How long does it take to heal. Can I go to work the next day? I need to know post ops stuff before I consider it.
Gundo74

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Jan 6, 2008
 
I know I live in canada, but I couldn't pay my health benefits and doctors tend to misdiagnose.
Roger

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Jan 6, 2008
 
Gundo74

When you get a shot is there an open wound ,no.
There might be a small amount of blood from the injection site for a minute or two just clean off with alcohol wipes.
You can do anything you want immediately after as there are no side effects.
If it makes you feel better you can put some antibotic salve on the injection site,but if you disinfected and sterilized everything before it no necessary.
flakid

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Feb 8, 2008
 
hey lwarranty: I am trying to find these items, but I'm out here in LA and no one seems to have any idea of what I'm talking about. Plus, the nearest tractor supply is a good 50 miles away. What are these items typically used for? Tractor equipment? Irrigation? I know this seems weird but I have to be more specific so I can tell people what I am looking for. Thanks alot for your help and advice
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DO IT YOURSELF - I do not use a vacuum pump however, I am afraid to over-aspirate or remove so much fluid as to cause iritation. I went to Tractor Supply, bought some #20 needles and tube. I sit in a metal chair on a towel, get comfortable, pour a little alky on my scrotum, find a spot just above my testicle, while holding my scrotum tight - causing pressure to hold the hydrocele out, like a water baloon, I push a needle in gently, at an upward angle, until I see fluid, then I put screw the tube to the needle and pull slow and gentle, I have had up to 7 20ml tubes full of fluid at times, but it works great. I have at times, hit a blood vessel and caused some internal discoloration, and other times, pulled the needle out too soon and had fluid build up at the base of my penis or shaft as it continued to drain under the skin. But this is going on 10 years and no other problems... I too went the gauntlet of doctors and operation, no thanks - no more - not ever. My father went through the same misery for years but never tried it himself. My guess is the post before this was performed by a mechanic??? Regardless, it was REAL easy, when I held pressure and started to push the needle in, I was amazed at how little went in before fluid started to pour out! Hope this helps, but remember, some folks get infection from door knobs, I couldn't get it if I licked toilet seats for a living... B-b-b-b-b-careful!
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Feb 8, 2008
 
thanks again
geoff

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May 8, 2008
 
try the Urology Institute of Pittsburgh. I wanted the surgery and the doctor only wants to drain.
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May 24, 2008
 
My husband has developed a sudden-onset hydrocele, starting about 8 weeks ago. It's now much bigger than a grapefruit; he is in some discomfort, can't walk, it looks dreadful even in baggy trousers. We've been completely mucked about by our local hospital, on the basis that surgery is the ONLY answer. The anaesthetist will not let the operation go forward, due to Bob's weight and asks why on earth haven't the urology dept. drained it already?! This is our GP's view as well. We have to wait another fortnight for an "urgent" appointment. So it's not just a US problem!
lwarranty

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Jul 1, 2008
 
flakid wrote:
thanks again
Sorry its been awhile since I looked into this site, for supplies you can get them mail order, it is really medical supplies for animals. However being in the middle of TN, I can assure you most folks aren't using it on the family dairy cow. Tractor Supply and any farm supply will have needles and tubes. It is a fairly painless procedure and at times, just pushing the needle through the outer scrotum into the hydrocele will drain into your scrotum overnight. The procedure as I understand when performed, the patch of skin on the side of the hydrocele, in a triangular shape, is cut out. The allows the hyrdocele to drain into your scrotum and be absorbed into the body. The triangular shape I imagine is to keep the patch from growing closed? I also understand they have another process, less invasive that involves a small tube sutured into the hydrocele sack that basically performs the same. The tube is much less invasive and quicker recovery. During the "patch" method, I understand they inspect your testicle/s during the procedure. My guess is handling your testicles cannot be good for them and bruising would add to recovery time. The purpose is self evident, looking for cancer and other issues. The recovery time I believe is basically cause you don't want to move around and life when your testicles have been used in a basketball game. Otherwise, I can say with experience, had I not picked up a needle and addressed this myself, my quality of life would have been complete SHIT. This issue side tracked everything in my life, sex, athletics, work and just sitting in a theatre. With medical insurance and doctors - it became a complete pre-exam, ultrasound, waiting, reading, consultation bullshit every time a new doctor got involved. Now, its every two weeks, a stick, a couple of pulls, wipe it down and off I go. The entry point may bleed a tad, 96% of the time it won't, but I choose to apply some pressure till I see some fluid or blood, I beleive it will help - not unlike a puncture wound, if it bleeds, it cleans itself! Again, this is NOT for everyone, but for those of us who get nowhere - this works!
lwarranty

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Jul 1, 2008
 
Another note for anyone with this - I AM NOT A DOCTOR - I AM A MECHANIC, the issues that create hydrocele are typically injury, lifting, falling, accidents anything that could tear the lining loose at your lower abdomen. IF you have a sudden onset, over a short period of time, DO NOT ASSUME HYDROCELE. A friend of mine had a sudden onset that turned out to be puss from a terrible infection. DO NOT ASSUME - GO TO A DOCTOR, for those who are broke from the cost of gasoline and health insurance co-pays, have lost the quality of life to where it per-occupies all your thoughs and the big "CANCER" scare is running through your head daily, take a flashlight and look through your scrotum, it should be clear and you should almost be able to see the intenisty from the bulb center. If you cannot see through your scrotum, be very careful, you could have other problems. Stop, think, do the right thing, this is a LAST DITCH EFFORT to live with the problem, this is NOT A CURE!
Rschmid

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Jul 3, 2008
 
I took the advice from lwarranty and used a 20 ml syringe with a 21 gauge needle, all of which I got from a pharmacy. The pharmacist did not like the possibility of infection so she said that she will give it to me only this once.
It was fairly simple: just poke the scrotum and hold the needle in and pull on the plunger to remove the fluid. AVOID hitting the testicle. I should have then just removed the syringe from the needle and unloaded the fluid, and then put the syringe back on the needle and remove more fluid. I will do that next time. Instead, I just removed the plunger from the syringe and let the rest of the fluid leak out into a pan.
I found websites that have the 20 gauge needles and 30ml syringes:

http://www.imed.com/shop/detail.cfm/Sku/K2290

http://www.nextag.com/20-gauge-luer-lock-need...

You can also get this stuff at a medical supplies store in your city.
Scott D

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Sep 10, 2008
 
I had a massive one removed my a surgeon (980 ML of Fluid, nearly a quart)

I was on my back for 3 weeks, and bleed from the incision for 2 months.

The advantage is it can never come back, but it was not a good experience.

I got a vasectomy 2 years later, and he had a very hard time, due to scar tissue in the area too.
DaveP

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Nov 7, 2008
 
I had a hydrocelectomy in 2006. Stitches came loose, took forever to heal, on my back going nuts. Doctor said its OK the inside stitches will hold. Well it slowly grew back and its the size of a grapefruit again. Went back to another doctor today to tell him I wanted aspiration, He said to do surgery again, even though its much more difficult the second time with all the scar tissue. Dont think Im gonna go through all that again. Im considering the do it youself technique described here. Thanks
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Petoskey, MI

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Dec 7, 2008
 
Scott D wrote:
I had a massive one removed my a surgeon (980 ML of Fluid, nearly a quart)
I was on my back for 3 weeks, and bleed from the incision for 2 months.
The advantage is it can never come back, but it was not a good experience.
I got a vasectomy 2 years later, and he had a very hard time, due to scar tissue in the area too.
I hate to tell you this, but they can come back. your Dr. lied to you as they so often do. just ask Dave. Iwas told the same thing, but through my own medical research i found out that hydroceles can come back
william

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Jan 14, 2009
 

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I was able to find an online medical supply to buy the 20 gauge needles in western canada and have aspirated twice myself after the doctor did it once. No problem with infection so far. The hydrocelectomy is covered by provincal medical insurance here, but I am not sure I want to go through the operation. I bought 100 needles for 20 dollars canadian so I will aspirate every 6 weeks or so as needed for as long as I dont have problems.

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