Mental Wellbeing vs Mental Illness

Mental Wellbeing vs Mental Illness

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WTELH

UK

#1 Oct 20, 2015
How fine is the line between one and the other?

Or is it just a crock of dung?
WTELH

UK

#2 Oct 20, 2015
To the poster that goes by 'Humanspirit',

I have appreciated reading many of your contributions to this {very touchy} subject.
The links you've provided have been very informative tho, I would prefer if {on occasion} you give an opinion in your own words. Thanks

While it's receiving more attention over the past couple of decades, this is still a subject many like to ignore, when in actuality it should be one of the top trending discussions.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#3 Oct 20, 2015
I can contribute somewhat to this to the conversation... many yr ago my mother was admitted to a State Mental Institution after attempting suicide. She was administered a number of weeks of electric shock treatments. Did this result in mental well being or contribute to ongoing mental illness? When released she spent the following months/years trying to remember her life that she had forgotten... burned from her memory. She found peace after a time with the loss of her bad memories. I have spent my whole life trying to be fee of my bad memories I can't forget. I am beginning to think I would really benefit from moms electric shock therapy to at last be rid of my many memories which come back to mind to haunt me daily. Mental well being as you put it... is found in the release of guilt and the memories surrounding them. Mental Illness knows no such freedom.
WTELH

London, UK

#5 Jun 18, 2016
cowface wrote:
I can contribute somewhat to this to the conversation... many yr ago my mother was admitted to a State Mental Institution after attempting suicide. She was administered a number of weeks of electric shock treatments. Did this result in mental well being or contribute to ongoing mental illness? When released she spent the following months/years trying to remember her life that she had forgotten... burned from her memory. She found peace after a time with the loss of her bad memories. I have spent my whole life trying to be fee of my bad memories I can't forget. I am beginning to think I would really benefit from moms electric shock therapy to at last be rid of my many memories which come back to mind to haunt me daily. Mental well being as you put it... is found in the release of guilt and the memories surrounding them. Mental Illness knows no such freedom.
First, let me apologize to you cowface for not returning a post here.

I can relate to how you feel. My brother also experienced depression all his life. He'd been writing suicide notes since he was 12, until he turned 46 and then there was no note to read, just his lifeless body after he'd shot his heart.

He was diligent in trying to get help in the end. He also underwent 16 EST treatments. I was terrified for him. I'll admit,'One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest' kept playing in my mind. I told him to pretend he was better and get out. He told me, they told him he was better. He told me, he was not. I was thousands of miles away and really couldn't do anything for him, but listen. I could/can relate and begged him not to use a gun. If I recall, I believe I gave him ideas of easier ways. I know how horrifying that sounds, but I'd been a survivor on two other occasions of those I loved that shot themselves, dead.

I wonder, but I don't know,... are they considered insane when they take their lives? That's rhetorical, as I'm not expecting you to have an/the answer.

Thank you for sharing and I hope you'll come back. I'd all but given up on this forum. The only one that visits for the most part is the one that posts that psychiatry is a hoax. I don't believe that.

My best to you and yours, Sir.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#6 Jun 18, 2016
WTELH wrote:
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First, let me apologize to you cowface for not returning a post here.

I can relate to how you feel. My brother also experienced depression all his life. He'd been writing suicide notes since he was 12, until he turned 46 and then there was no note to read, just his lifeless body after he'd shot his heart.

He was diligent in trying to get help in the end. He also underwent 16 EST treatments. I was terrified for him. I'll admit,'One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest' kept playing in my mind. I told him to pretend he was better and get out. He told me, they told him he was better. He told me, he was not. I was thousands of miles away and really couldn't do anything for him, but listen. I could/can relate and begged him not to use a gun. If I recall, I believe I gave him ideas of easier ways. I know how horrifying that sounds, but I'd been a survivor on two other occasions of those I loved that shot themselves, dead.

I wonder, but I don't know,... are they considered insane when they take their lives? That's rhetorical, as I'm not expecting you to have an/the answer.

Thank you for sharing and I hope you'll come back. I'd all but given up on this forum. The only one that visits for the most part is the one that posts that psychiatry is a hoax. I don't believe that.

My best to you and yours, Sir.
Strange your post should find me just now. I am currently on a camping hiedis trying to save myself from a total mental break down. So far this has helped... but then back to work Monday, and back to the same stress and anxiety which has been bringing me down of late.

In answer to your question about the insane... I don't like that word or description. I prefer mentally ill. Those who take their own lives do so because they have lost all hope, and living has become too much to bear. Nothing insane about that.

I think insane people do much worse than simply take their own life... but rather the insane kill, destroy and take others lives, rape, molest, and ruin lives of others... which is truly insane.
WTELH

London, UK

#7 Jun 21, 2016
cowface wrote:
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Strange your post should find me just now. I am currently on a camping hiedis trying to save myself from a total mental break down. So far this has helped... but then back to work Monday, and back to the same stress and anxiety which has been bringing me down of late.

In answer to your question about the insane... I don't like that word or description. I prefer mentally ill. Those who take their own lives do so because they have lost all hope, and living has become too much to bear. Nothing insane about that.

I think insane people do much worse than simply take their own life... but rather the insane kill, destroy and take others lives, rape, molest, and ruin lives of others... which is truly insane.
I'm sorry to hear you have stress and anxiety to the point it's affecting your well being.
There is much written about how badly that affects our brain and body.
Recognizing your struggles is the first step to perhaps seeking some professional help?


I agree many take their lives because they feel hopeless and helpless to change that.
I'd like to believe they transitioned to the point of insanity, for Christian reasons. Those
in the faith say a true Christian wouldn't take their own lives and many believe it's the
quickest path to he||, but that's another topic altogether. Thanks for sharing, cowface.
WTELH

London, UK

#8 Jun 21, 2016
Perhaps these links on the subject would be of interest to you. There are many more, but here are just two.

Your Brain on Stress
WTELH

London, UK

#9 Jun 21, 2016
Long Term Effects of Stress on Your Body


I have experienced it all my life and have only recently begun
taking medication to help alleviate the symptoms. It helps.
HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#10 Jul 11, 2016
WTELH wrote:
To the poster that goes by 'Humanspirit',

I have appreciated reading many of your contributions to this {very touchy} subject.
The links you've provided have been very informative tho, I would prefer if {on occasion} you give an opinion in your own words. Thanks

While it's receiving more attention over the past couple of decades, this is still a subject many like to ignore, when in actuality it should be one of the top trending discussions.
I have given my opinion many times but the articles do the same. Each article represents a different place. That's a lot of opinions to write. Saves time
Its reality

High Springs, FL

#12 Apr 30, 2018
No matter how WTELH points the finger many of the articles over the years are my articles. There is no denying that there is no diffintion to mental illnesses. The illnesses are based on the raising of hands by and at the APA meetings by college clones.(rectal lickers). There are no sound facts to mental illnesses and the "made to order" mental illnesses are based on the time and place in society including what is popular in the judicial courts and the drugs marketed.. The was killings because of mind drugs are seldom mentioned however the KILLINGS IN LAS VEGAS AND THE MURDERS IN HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE ONE COMMON DENOMINATOR....MIND DRUGS AND COUNSELING.
FROG

Harrisburg, PA

#13 Aug 28, 2018
Psychiatry can be dangerous for Autistics. Autistics are a neurominority. Autism is a difference in the fundamental brain structure and is part of natural diversity. Autistic ways of thinking, behaviors, and expressions should be encouraged, not suppressed. Psychiatry should be supportive of Autism and empower Autistics and those who are different to be themselves as Autistics and neurodivergent individuals.

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