Will my kid get schizophrenia?

Will my kid get schizophrenia?

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Oslo, Norway

#1 Jan 18, 2013
Hi everyone,

I'm new here.I wanted to take a medical advise from a person who knows about my problem.Sorry if my english isn't good(it's not my native language).I've been with a guy for many years and recently I found out I have got accidentally pregnant with him.Ok till now but the thing is that he has a brother diagnosed with schizophrenia some years ago.Let me tell you the story as it is 'cause it might help.No one else in the family has any problem neither any of his aunt cousins as far as I know.Everything started when his brother broke up after a 4 months relationship with a girl that he like a lot.At first he tried with every way to take her back.After he start not going out,staying all day at his room ,eating almost nothing,smoking and most of all drinking a LOT!A bottle of whisky per day was for sure.This kept going for about almost a year and in the beggining everyone thought it will pass.After I started realizied it might be depression.His parents didn't seem to see that,or at least didn't want to admit sth was not right.They keep give him money and kept buying alcohool with the hope he'll get back to his self again.But almost after 10 months,he lost his self.He star not talking ,not eating NOTHING,not smoking and mostly not drinking...So I said to my noyfriend he needs a doctor.They finally took him to a psychologist but he announced he needed a psychiatrist.I found him on and he diagnosed him with psychotic schizofrenia..They start gave him medicines and time by time he got better.After a year and a half taking less medicines he also found a girl and got engaged.Everything good except one thing.Now and 5 months almost he stoo by his own taking tge medicines believing he don't need them and by my supsise he is well,or better I can say he found his own self.He is looking for job,starting a family and everything and I'm confused.Sorry for the long long story.Let me get to the point..how many possibilities my child or my child children have to get schizofreneia.I'm thinking the abortion if I know my kid will get sick for all his life.Plz help me.thank u

High Springs, FL

#2 Jan 19, 2013
Inside the Battle to Define Mental Illness

Every so often Al Frances says something that seems to surprise even him. Just now, for instance, in the predawn darkness of his comfortable, rambling home in Carmel, California, he has broken off his exercise routine to declare that ďthere is no definition of a mental disorder. Itís bullshit. I mean, you just canít define it.Ē Then an odd, reflective look crosses his face, as if heís taking in the strangeness of this scene: Allen Frances, lead editor of the fourth edition of the American Psychiatric Associationís Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (universally known as the DSM-IV), the guy who wrote the book on mental illness, confessing that ďthese concepts are virtually impossible to define precisely with bright lines at the boundaries.Ē For the first time in two days, the conversation comes to an awkward halt.

Pasted from < http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/12/ff_dsmv... ;

There are no genetic tests, no brain scans, blood tests, chemical imbalance tests or X-rays that can scientifically/medically prove that any psychiatric disorder is a medical condition.


High Springs, FL

#3 Jan 19, 2013
Psychiatric Diagnosis: Too Little Science, Too Many Conflicts of Interest [i]

Paula J. Caplan, Ph.D.

Harvard University


The Concerns

There is a lot of pain and suffering in the world, and it is tempting to believe that the mental health community knows how to help. It is widely believed, both by mental health professionals and the general population, that if only a person gets the right psychiatric diagnosis, the therapist will know what kind of measures will be the most helpful. Unfortunately, that is not usually the case, and getting a psychiatric diagnosis can often create more problems than it solves, including a lifetime of being labeled, difficulties with obtaining affordable (or any) health insurance (due to now having a pre-existing condition), loss of employment, loss of child custody, the overlooking of physical illnesses and injuries because of everything being attributed to psychological factors, and the loss of the right to make decisions about oneís medical and legal affairs. The creation and use of psychiatric diagnosis, unlike, for instance, psychiatric drugs, is not overseen by any regulatory body, and rarely does anyone raise the question of what role the assignment of a psychiatric label has played in creating problems for individuals.[ii]

The Problematic History

These serious limitations have not prevented the authors of the American Psychiatric Associationís (APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), sometimes known as ďthe therapistís Bible,Ē from making expansive claims about their knowledge and authority and wielding enormous power to decide who will and will not be called mentally ill and what the varieties of alleged mental illness will be. The DSMís current edition is called DSM-IV-TR, and it was preceded by the original DSM (in 1952), then DSM-II (1968), DSM-III (1980), DSM-III-R (Third Edition Revised)(1987), DSM-IV (1994), and DSM-IV-TR (2000). The DSM-V is currently in preparation and slated for 2013 publication. Each time a new edition appears, the media ask whichever psychiatrist is the lead editor why a new edition was necessary, and like clockwork, each editor replies that it was because the previous edition really wasnít scientific (Caplan, 1995). And each time a new edition appears, it contains many more categories than does the previous one. For instance, DSM-III-R contained 297 categories, and DSM-IV contained 374 (Caplan, 1995).

I served as an advisor to two of the DSM-IV committees, before resigning due to serious concerns after witnessing how fast and loose they play with the scientific research related to diagnosis (Caplan, 1995). The DSM is widely used, not only in the mental health system, but also in general medical practice, in schools, and in the courts. I have been involved since 1985 in trying to alert both therapists and the public to the manualís unscientific nature and the dangers that believing in its objectivity poses. Since then, I have watched with interest a national trend toward gradually increasing openness to the idea that psychiatric diagnosis (A)is largely unscientific,(B)is highly subjective and political, and (C)can cause untold harm, ranging from the patientsí lowered self-confidence to loss of custody of children to loss of health insurance (because any psychiatric label can be considered evidence of a pre-existing condition) to loss of the right to make decisions about their medical and legal affairs.

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