Hospice care topic of Tuesday present...

Hospice care topic of Tuesday presentation

There are 45 comments on the Carlsbad Current-Argus story from Jul 15, 2009, titled Hospice care topic of Tuesday presentation. In it, Carlsbad Current-Argus reports that:

Leading hospice care expert and author Maggie Callanan will be in Carlsbad to share her understanding of the special needs of the dying and those who care for them.

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Mainer Mike Brown

Williston, VT

#1 Jul 16, 2009
This is AS I SEE IT, by Mainer Mike Brown.

Studies show that those who recieve hospice care are generally happier than those with a terminal illness who end up in a nursing home.

That's AS I SEE IT. I'm Mainer Mike Brown.
Diamond Dave

Carlsbad, NM

#2 Jul 16, 2009
That's as if you can BE happy about dying from a "terminal" illness?
2 eyes wide open

Carlsbad, NM

#3 Jul 16, 2009
I have had the pleasure of meeting this amazing woman, while I was working. And hope to meet up with her again. Since I did home health care for 20 years, her book is so helpful. Most of my clients were 'hospice' patients. I have NO regrets, as much as I gave to my clients, they gave me so much more..They touched my heart, and taught me so much. I will always be honored that my clients and their families allowed me into there lives, in the worst time of theirs ..To be with my clients and 'my brother who passed last year' at there last breath is so heart breaking and yet I was honored to be with them, it was from my hand to the loving hands of GOD...Life is so precious be good to those around you...
2 eyes wide open

Carlsbad, NM

#4 Jul 16, 2009
Diamond Dave wrote:
That's as if you can BE happy about dying from a "terminal" illness?
Diamond Dave, believe it or not when you are faced with a terminal illness, some thing takes over that is hard to explain. I can only call it (the comforter) I think the lord takes over and gives you the strength to deal with all that lays a head of you.. Its amazing ...
Kornback Rattler

Mayhill, NM

#5 Jul 16, 2009
2 eyes wide open wrote:
I have had the pleasure of meeting this amazing woman, while I was working. And hope to meet up with her again. Since I did home health care for 20 years, her book is so helpful. Most of my clients were 'hospice' patients. I have NO regrets, as much as I gave to my clients, they gave me so much more..They touched my heart, and taught me so much. I will always be honored that my clients and their families allowed me into there lives, in the worst time of theirs ..To be with my clients and 'my brother who passed last year' at there last breath is so heart breaking and yet I was honored to be with them, it was from my hand to the loving hands of GOD...Life is so precious be good to those around you...
The "messiah" was telling older people to choose hospice over trying to live longer. It only took him 6 months to start leadding his "sheep" to slaughter.

Wasn't Barry's whole campaign a promise of "hope"?
2 eyes wide open

Carlsbad, NM

#6 Jul 16, 2009
Kornback Rattler wrote:
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The "messiah" was telling older people to choose hospice over trying to live longer. It only took him 6 months to start leadding his "sheep" to slaughter.
Wasn't Barry's whole campaign a promise of "hope"?
The clients I had were at there end stage. They had already tried ever treatment possible. It allowed them to stay home as pain free as possible and get the loving care that only family and there care takers can gave them. They were given love, respect and the 'dignity' that terminal illness takes away from you .. There is nothing as comforting as your own home...Why be hooked up to life saving machines on the last few months or days of your life. When it could be spend watching the sunrise or set, with a loved one.
Kornback Rattler

Mayhill, NM

#7 Jul 16, 2009
2 eyes wide open wrote:
<quoted text>The clients I had were at there end stage. They had already tried ever treatment possible. It allowed them to stay home as pain free as possible and get the loving care that only family and there care takers can gave them. They were given love, respect and the 'dignity' that terminal illness takes away from you .. There is nothing as comforting as your own home...Why be hooked up to life saving machines on the last few months or days of your life. When it could be spend watching the sunrise or set, with a loved one.
I agree with everything you said, but it should remain a personal decision and not one made by government controlled healthcare.

Just like Barry said some older patience should learn to live with pain and not opt for a hip replacement surgey, his family excluded of course.
2 eyes wide open

Carlsbad, NM

#8 Jul 16, 2009
Kornback Rattler wrote:
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I agree with everything you said, but it should remain a personal decision and not one made by government controlled healthcare.
Just like Barry said some older patience should learn to live with pain and not opt for a hip replacement surgey, his family excluded of course.
Kornback Rattler, I have to tell you I missed Barry's campaign. Hell he must of had nothing I wanted to hear. I tend to tune out what I don't want to hear.. And NO ONE should suffer with pain, no matter what the situation is. It will always be hard for me to except the injustice that some inflect to others. I No longer have the fight within me, as I once did. But thank heaven for those who still do...
Kornback Rattler

Mayhill, NM

#9 Jul 16, 2009
2 eyes wide open wrote:
<quoted text>Kornback Rattler, I have to tell you I missed Barry's campaign. Hell he must of had nothing I wanted to hear. I tend to tune out what I don't want to hear.. And NO ONE should suffer with pain, no matter what the situation is. It will always be hard for me to except the injustice that some inflect to others. I No longer have the fight within me, as I once did. But thank heaven for those who still do...
I might suggest you change your moniker (lol) if you don't know what Barry promised or is trying to ram down the throats of the citizens of this country.

This exchange occurred during Barry's townhall healthcare meeting that was televised like an infomercial on state run TV (ABC).

Dr. Orrin Devinsky, a neurologist and researcher at the New York University Langone Medical Center, said that elites often propose health care solutions that limit options for the general public, secure in the knowledge that if they or their loves ones get sick, they will be able to afford the best care available, even if it's not provided by insurance.

Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to promise that he wouldn't seek such extraordinary help for his wife or daughters if they became sick and the public plan he's proposing limited the tests or treatment they can get.

The president refused to make such a pledge.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/HealthCare/sto...

One thing for Barry and one thing for the rest of us.

"Hope" what a joke.
DocMoc

Lovington, NM

#10 Jul 16, 2009
2 eyes wide open wrote:
<quoted text>The clients I had were at there end stage. They had already tried ever treatment possible. It allowed them to stay home as pain free as possible and get the loving care that only family and there care takers can gave them. They were given love, respect and the 'dignity' that terminal illness takes away from you .. There is nothing as comforting as your own home...Why be hooked up to life saving machines on the last few months or days of your life. When it could be spend watching the sunrise or set, with a loved one.
Well said and I agree with what you've shared.
DocMoc

Lovington, NM

#11 Jul 16, 2009
Kornback Rattler wrote:
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I agree with everything you said, but it should remain a personal decision and not one made by government controlled healthcare.
Just like Barry said some older patience should learn to live with pain and not opt for a hip replacement surgey, his family excluded of course.
I agree, it should be a personal decision and not one made by the govt. And a decision, hopefully previously discussed (while still in good mind and body) and shared with their family members/loved ones, so that one's wishes are carried through or followed according to how we'd want it to be. IMHO
2 eyes wide open

Carlsbad, NM

#12 Jul 16, 2009
Kornback Rattler wrote:
<quoted text>
I might suggest you change your moniker (lol) if you don't know what Barry promised or is trying to ram down the throats of the citizens of this country.
This exchange occurred during Barry's townhall healthcare meeting that was televised like an infomercial on state run TV (ABC).
Dr. Orrin Devinsky, a neurologist and researcher at the New York University Langone Medical Center, said that elites often propose health care solutions that limit options for the general public, secure in the knowledge that if they or their loves ones get sick, they will be able to afford the best care available, even if it's not provided by insurance.
Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to promise that he wouldn't seek such extraordinary help for his wife or daughters if they became sick and the public plan he's proposing limited the tests or treatment they can get.
The president refused to make such a pledge.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/HealthCare/sto...
One thing for Barry and one thing for the rest of us.
"Hope" what a joke.
Thank you so must for taking the time to up date me on current events.. I have no excuse other then it has been over a year ago that I lost my brother. And still I struggle for what once was normal and expected of me. Every thing I had learned about dealing with death and excepting it, went out the window when it came to my beloved brother. And yes I had lost other loved ones, but this just took me for a loop. But little by little things are going back in place. Be careful I'm still not in my right mind... Thanks a lot for your information, I appreciate the time you took to enlighten me....
2 eyes wide open

Carlsbad, NM

#13 Jul 16, 2009
Kornback Rattler wrote:
<quoted text>
I might suggest you change your moniker (lol) if you don't know what Barry promised or is trying to ram down the throats of the citizens of this country.
This exchange occurred during Barry's townhall healthcare meeting that was televised like an infomercial on state run TV (ABC).
Dr. Orrin Devinsky, a neurologist and researcher at the New York University Langone Medical Center, said that elites often propose health care solutions that limit options for the general public, secure in the knowledge that if they or their loves ones get sick, they will be able to afford the best care available, even if it's not provided by insurance.
Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to promise that he wouldn't seek such extraordinary help for his wife or daughters if they became sick and the public plan he's proposing limited the tests or treatment they can get.
The president refused to make such a pledge.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/HealthCare/sto...
One thing for Barry and one thing for the rest of us.
"Hope" what a joke.
The main reason for my monike name ( 2 eyes wide open) is basically from growing up in Calif. I was a so called hippy child, the things I have seen in my life time wow. I'm so greatful for them all, from the ugly's to the most beautiful things and people from all walks of life .. They have all effected my life in one way or another. I consider my self lucky...
2 eyes wide open

Carlsbad, NM

#14 Jul 16, 2009
Kornback Rattler wrote:
<quoted text>
I might suggest you change your moniker (lol) if you don't know what Barry promised or is trying to ram down the throats of the citizens of this country.
This exchange occurred during Barry's townhall healthcare meeting that was televised like an infomercial on state run TV (ABC).
Dr. Orrin Devinsky, a neurologist and researcher at the New York University Langone Medical Center, said that elites often propose health care solutions that limit options for the general public, secure in the knowledge that if they or their loves ones get sick, they will be able to afford the best care available, even if it's not provided by insurance.
Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to promise that he wouldn't seek such extraordinary help for his wife or daughters if they became sick and the public plan he's proposing limited the tests or treatment they can get.
The president refused to make such a pledge.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/HealthCare/sto...
One thing for Barry and one thing for the rest of us.
"Hope" what a joke.
KornBack Rattler, Have you ever heard the saying of 'when life hands you a box of lemons, make lemon aid'.. Hell NO that's not what you do.. What you should do is take that lemon and squeeze it in someone's eye and haul A(SS)... How fast can you run?? And where is Berry at??? Hope they don't offer him any pain medication for his eye. If they do hope some one reminds him, you need to learn to live with a little pain....
Kornback Rattler

Mayhill, NM

#15 Jul 16, 2009
2 eyes wide open wrote:
<quoted text>KornBack Rattler, Have you ever heard the saying of 'when life hands you a box of lemons, make lemon aid'.. Hell NO that's not what you do.. What you should do is take that lemon and squeeze it in someone's eye and haul A(SS)... How fast can you run?? And where is Berry at??? Hope they don't offer him any pain medication for his eye. If they do hope some one reminds him, you need to learn to live with a little pain....
Hang in there, I lost son a brother and a dad over the course of about one year just over two years ago.
You got to keep trying to make that lemonade and remember what you learned helping all those suffering people you've helped out over the years.

Good luck, the sun ALWAYS comes up tommorrow, you should too.

“Wanna Play?”

Since: Sep 08

Carlsbad, NM

#16 Jul 16, 2009
2 eyes wide open wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you so must for taking the time to up date me on current events.. I have no excuse other then it has been over a year ago that I lost my brother. And still I struggle for what once was normal and expected of me. Every thing I had learned about dealing with death and excepting it, went out the window when it came to my beloved brother. And yes I had lost other loved ones, but this just took me for a loop. But little by little things are going back in place. Be careful I'm still not in my right mind... Thanks a lot for your information, I appreciate the time you took to enlighten me....
I understand what you've been through. My mom died in 2001 from colon cancer, my brother in law died in 2002 from kidney cancer, my father in law (whom I was very close to) died in 2003 from pancreatic cancer. It was extremely tough. Some days you feel as though you're just "going through the motions" of daily life, but have no feeling behind it. I have learned that as time passes, you begin to focus on the good times of their lives instead of the sadness surrounding their death. I couldn't hardly talk about my mom without crying, now, we laugh at the memories.

Hospice is an extremely hard choice in medicine, but the rewards are literally priceless. So keep your chin up, I know you have made many families lives a little brighter during their darkest times.

“Wanna Play?”

Since: Sep 08

Carlsbad, NM

#17 Jul 16, 2009
Kornback Rattler wrote:
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Hang in there, I lost son a brother and a dad over the course of about one year just over two years ago.
You got to keep trying to make that lemonade and remember what you learned helping all those suffering people you've helped out over the years.
Good luck, the sun ALWAYS comes up tommorrow, you should too.
I'm so sorry for all your losses KBR.
noname

Namyangju, Korea

#18 Jul 16, 2009
Just looking in.. and TGIF..
Just want to add my two cents.. not that it really applies to the topic of the thread..but, I too, have lost many loved ones.. some I have not even had the pleasure of being there for the services..as I was either notified too late, or duty called and I could not get there..
I lost my mother in 2002....
Still not over it.. BDB...I feel you when you say..there were days you could not even speak of her without crying..
I also loved the saying about 'when life hands you lemons..!!!'
Just wanted to share a parable some one sent to me in an email .. I really like it..an hope it can help lift others up.. as it does me..
Have a Great weekend.. ALL..
NN.

LIFE ISN'T ABOUT WAITING FOR THE STORM TO PASS...
IT'S LEARNING HOW TO DANCE IN THE RAIN !+
2 eyes wide open

Carlsbad, NM

#19 Jul 16, 2009
Kornback Rattler wrote:
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Hang in there, I lost son a brother and a dad over the course of about one year just over two years ago.
You got to keep trying to make that lemonade and remember what you learned helping all those suffering people you've helped out over the years.
Good luck, the sun ALWAYS comes up tommorrow, you should too.
Wow you are a survivor, To have had three so close to your heart leave this earth and all within a year, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. You are amazing to have with stand so much hurt all at once like that.. I have always believed to live life as if this was your last day on earth and I have tried to do that. I'm happy to know the lord always gives me tomorrow to make it right. So my point is for me,each time I see some one I care about or love. Be it family or friend I never let them go without a hug just in case it might be our last. I feel life is hard enough, I need it to be with as little regret as possible.. As a teen and in my 20's it was all about making the money. But I learned memories last a life time, we take nothing with us anyway except the love we shared with each other...We also leave memories, And that is priceless.... Thanks for your words of encouragement... Many Blessings to you and yours...
2 eyes wide open

Carlsbad, NM

#20 Jul 16, 2009
DocMoc wrote:
<quoted text>Well said and I agree with what you've shared.
Thank you, But you know there is a few out there that, do want to be in hospitals and take their treatments tell the very end of there last day. I can respect that, because they made that choice. But some times family interferes with either choice. and in most cases that is wrong.. I have always been a great believer in having your choice written down by legal means. So that your wishes are carried out . I can not begin to tell you how many tears I have seen from past clients, when there family sat and argued what they should do with the dying person on hand, as if they could not hear... Trust me even with a closed bedroom door they yell enough to be heard.. And what a shame ...

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