Time to park the cars in Estes Park?

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I was just reading about your traffic problems. I am well aware of them, being a frequent visitor of Estes Park Has anyone suggested closing off Elkhorn to cars during peak visitor times? It would be great to be able to walk around Elkhorn without cars.
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Vice

Estes Park, CO

#1 Feb 28, 2012
It would appear that gun owners, those who obtain guns legally with a background check, going through a waiting period, registering the firearm, takes gun safety classes, become members of the NRA should be left alone. Not to say there isn't a rogue out there who has jumped through all of these hoops and use a gun in a criminal act. But, in my humble opinion, it is the guy or gal on the street that obtains guns illegally and uses them as weapons to commit crimes ten fold compared to the registered gun owner. Does anyone have those statistics?
What

Fort Collins, CO

#2 Feb 29, 2012
the heck are you talking about?
Vice wrote:
It would appear that gun owners,.....
Your post relates to any of this week's "Letters to the Editor" just how?
Nice idea but

Fort Collins, CO

#3 Feb 29, 2012
"Has anyone suggested closing off Elkhorn to cars during peak visitor times? " Yes, this simplistic idea comes up annually. Hopefully, if you ever do come live here, you will take a year or two to learn about the community, the infrastructure, the people, etc. before you start coming up with "solutions".
Elkhorn Ave. is also a U.S. Hwy - it is a major roadway that people use to PASS THROUGH Estes Park - not everyone wants to stop and shop for trinkets, t-shirts, or be over-charged at substandard downtown bistros while on their way to visit the Nat'l Park. Nor do they want to end the wonderful day they spent out in the Nat'l Park by being forced to stop in Estes Park.
The problem was created decades ago, when some land should have been purchased to route traffic around downtown. But the powers that be at the time WANTED everyone funneled through downtown ($$$!), and the mess we have today is the result. The land that could have been used for a bypass no longer exists as an option, unless the state or city or county resort to eminent domain and condemn and steal the land.
VICE

Estes Park, CO

#4 Feb 29, 2012
What wrote:
the heck are you talking about?
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Your post relates to any of this week's "Letters to the Editor" just how?
The article regarding what is means to be a republican. Obviously attention to detail is not your forte.
MORE FOR YOU TEA BAGGERS

Drake, CO

#5 Feb 29, 2012
Nice idea but wrote:
"Has anyone suggested closing off Elkhorn to cars during peak visitor times? " Yes, this simplistic idea comes up annually. Hopefully, if you ever do come live here, you will take a year or two to learn about the community, the infrastructure, the people, etc. before you start coming up with "solutions".
Elkhorn Ave. is also a U.S. Hwy - it is a major roadway that people use to PASS THROUGH Estes Park - not everyone wants to stop and shop for trinkets, t-shirts, or be over-charged at substandard downtown bistros while on their way to visit the Nat'l Park. Nor do they want to end the wonderful day they spent out in the Nat'l Park by being forced to stop in Estes Park.
The problem was created decades ago, when some land should have been purchased to route traffic around downtown. But the powers that be at the time WANTED everyone funneled through downtown ($$$!), and the mess we have today is the result. The land that could have been used for a bypass no longer exists as an option, unless the state or city or county resort to eminent domain and condemn and steal the land.
Actually there are numerous ways to avoid downtown Estes Park in the summer time and still access RMNP (Mocasin Bypass, Wonderview Ave, HWY7 to Marys Lake Road just to name a few). Whatever your opinions happen to be on the quality of downtown shops/restaurants is fine. Frankly I agree with you and there are only a couple restaurants in downtown that locals actually frequent. However I think its foolish to think that we, as locals, wouldn't want people shopping in our stores and eating in our restaurants. I think its absolutely essential that visitors are "funneled" through the downtown area. The reason that most of us get to enjoy living here is thanks to the tourists that come and spend money in our shops/restaurants. I'm not in a business that directly relies on tourism to survive but if that money wasn't brought into our town, I guarantee that most businesses wouldn't surive. I guess if you are just a retired citizen in EP than you prob just want to keep everyone else out of Estes. I think one of the biggest problems in the downtown corridor is the lack of parking. How many cars are just doing the loop through town looking for a place to park? Maybe instead of spending millions of dollars on a park and ride,(fairground transportation hub) that is poorly placed and nobody knows about, we could construct a parking structure to help with the problem. The town could allocate funds to construct a really nice parking garage in the parking lot located south, across the river, from Weist Drive. You could build a 3-story garage no problem that would not interfere with views, traffic flow, or existing businesses. In my mind it's a no-brainer! Costs of this garage could be offset very quickly by charging visitors an hourly rate to park (like most garages do in about every other city I've been to). I'm willing to bet that if you asked, a majority of the people in this town dont mind dealing with the three months of chaos in return for getting to call such a beautiful place home. Just my thoughts...
Jack in EP

Estes Park, CO

#6 Mar 1, 2012
What is means to be a Republican at the national level is that you support a party for the rich and develop a "fact-free" information system to mis-inform the idiots at the state and local level. If they had any morals at all, they'd admit that Bush lied about the "proof" for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. This led to a $1 plus trillion dollar needless expenditure, including 4,000 dead US military. They als cut and ran from Afganistan, allowing the Talliban to return and control the country. TARP was a Bush expenditure, as was the drug benefit for medicare, all not paid for. The Republicans and their Tea Bagger leaders now find the federal government expenditures "un-constitutional" but where were they when Bush was wasting our money?? If Republicans really were what they say they are, why not admit to this wasteful spending and push legislation through to repeal the medicare drug benefit? What it means to be a Republican hasn't changed since the days of George Wallace; induce racial tensions, class warfare, and find an excuse for poor performance by creating a need to fight a war. Don't forget Rickie Santorum who voted for all of these expenditures and now is trying to convince us that Jesus can take over and cure all of our ills. No wonder Santorum hates people who went to college, he prefers an ignorant electorate with which to sell his snake oil.
oh the squalor

Newbury Park, CA

#7 Mar 3, 2012
quackquack
michelle

Tampa, FL

#8 Jul 10, 2012
Hi there, I am going to estes park and frankly I hate the touristy thing. Any suggestions for greasy spoon type places, I dont like fancy, I like good food. Also any suggestions for reasonably priced super markets. We will also do a little shopping and I hear there are a few places that the locals go...any help?? Anything else such as sight seeing and things are welcome also. Thank you
Bat Crap Crazy Michelle

United States

#9 Jul 10, 2012
Instead of relying on the locals to do your homework, why don't you use that newfangled device you just posted with and do some looking yourself? There is only one reasonably-priced supermarket, as any quick look at TripAdvisor or Yelp would tell you.
michelle

Tampa, FL

#10 Jul 10, 2012
iv been online for hours doing that ..thanks for the SMART ASS REPLY...just looking for the local opinion
Michelle Bat Crap

Estes Park, CO

#11 Jul 10, 2012
Given that you are paying nothing for it, what do you expect in return? Charity? I'm interested in the top 10 cigar manufacturers in Tampa. Could you give me a list, and their total sales (both in dollars and numbers) over the last fiscal year.

See how mind-numbingly infuriating it is to have random dimwits ask random questions and not offer anything in return? Like everyone up here is just supposed to give free advice at the drop of a hat. We're not your trained monkeys. We don't have to dance while you shoot bullets at our feet.

Now go away. And if you do decide to come up here (who knows why), use the tourist information center like everyone else. At least they know going in you may pick up some trinkets if they tolerate your ridiculous questions.
michelle

Tampa, FL

#12 Jul 10, 2012
wow your hilarious!! You must be a miserable person...and your probably going to hell...enjoy it!

Since: Jan 11

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#13 Jul 10, 2012
michelle wrote:
Hi there, I am going to estes park and frankly I hate the touristy thing. Any suggestions for greasy spoon type places......
Rock Inn - good food, good beer, great craic;
Smokin' Dave's for good BBQ;
Sweet Basilico for decent meals Italian-ish.
All get real crowded if you're not there early or late.

Orlando's Steak House has a great chef, but a limited menu and is expensive. Ed's Cantina is a shadow of its former incarnation, but it's still popular. The Notchtop and Mountain Home Cafe in the shopping center east of Safeway have their loyal followings, though I can't offer a recent review. Avoid "Claire's on the Park" at all costs, as well as as the Estes Park Brewery.

Safeway is the only "full grocery" option. Grocery stores along the Front Range (Boulder, Longmont, Loveland) have better selections, so it may be smart to stock up on non-perishables on your way here. Much less crowded down there, too. Shop very early or late in Estes - crowds otherwise.

The Nat'l Park has major construction screwing up the Bear Lake Road corridor, and a trip over to the Kawuneeche Valley/Colorado River side will have you waiting in line because they are chip sealing the road. If you go into the Park, go very early or go out late - towards sunset - more animals out then, and less tourons. I think you'd find a sunrise drive up Fall River Road would be fantastic.

Not surprised you didn't find any 'real' news about Estes - the official web pages offer poor huckster-ism at best. Enjoy yourself when you get here!

About the troll posting from Estes and Georgia (yeah, it's the same spluge playing with its IP address)- ignore it. It tries dominates this forum by posting virulent and off-topic responses and attacks to about every post. It has no life.
About Beckley

Estes Park, CO

#14 Jul 10, 2012
He hides his location because he is on the registered sex offender list. His recommendations for restaurants are typical of someone in the lower income bracket, probably has never entertained friends or relatives here. Rock Inn is a dive, you would be lucky to escape with minor injuries and some treatable form of herpes simplex. It is a biker bar, home to people from West Virginia. Orlando's is also in a bar. So if you like bars, you will probably meet someone like Beckley there. Smokin Dave's is barbecue for morons, it is bland, fatty, and overpriced and home to thousands of tourists who listen to people's suggestions on the internet.

Bottom line, you get what you pay for on this forum. And Beckley didn't even graduate from junior high before being arrested for molesting his pet squirrel from both ends. You would do better closing your eyes and pointing to a map than Beckley's suggestions.
Quite amusing

United States

#15 Jul 11, 2012
"Beckley" Bonehead advocates shopping for groceries outside of Estes Park. Brilliant. Just brilliant. I suppose if you were driving up to Estes Park, never to return, your first stop to load up on what? tortillas? Lovelanc cherries? could be justified, but wasting gas an polluting the air to save 6 cents on rectal cream, something "Beckley" likely goes through a tube a day of, makes absolutely no sense. Shop in Estes Park, support Estes Park. Oh year, that's right, Beckley uses a service provider from a different country, because he is too poor to fork over the 1 a year extra to support an Estes Park business.
Beckrod fell for the

United States

#16 Jul 12, 2012
oldest trick in the book, the old "Helpless Michelle from Tampa" trick. So know we know a little bit more about the old Beckster - He is middle aged, divorced, balding, lower middle class to just skirting poverty line, a member of one quasi-philanthropic organization in town, and lonesome. Poor Beckland.
michelle

United States

#17 Jul 13, 2012
Hi there, well, I've arrived in Estes Park, and I was wondering if someone could tell me what all those furry animals are...any help?
michelle

Estes Park, CO

#18 Jul 14, 2012
Hi there, I have this thing between my legs that yellow liquid comes out of about 30 minutes after I drink a lot of water...any help?
MYRNA GOFF

Estes Park, CO

#19 Jul 14, 2012
My suggestion at a recent city poll on parking in Estes park was more of a question. WHY didn't they build a two story parking lot where they are TRYING to get people to park by the fairgrounds. They already have the free shuttle buses, the protected waiting area for the bus stop, the routes, the drivers, etc... Instead of finding ANOTHER spot (the area they are looking at is to possibly enlarge the parking area by the visitors center) closer to down town. WHY not use the present lot that is used for venues at the fairground AND car parking for the free shuttles, but build a two story parking garage there and utilize the system that is already set up...

Another thing I see EVERYDAY in Estes Park is private parking lots with 30 minute parking and 2 hour parking signs in full view and city parking lots being used for ALL DAY parking for bicyclists who bring their bicycles up on the back of their cars, park their cars, put on their riding gear and bicycle off for the day. These bicyclists tie up parking spaces that SHOULD be used by SHOPPERS willing to spend money in restaurants, shops, etc. There SHOULD BE a parking area for these avid bicyclists that come up to Estes and use parking spots that some merchants and the city of Estes Park have provided for THEIR customers. The Stanley Village parking lots are for customers of Safeway, several restaurants, a pharmacy, and many other stores... The parking lot by Ed's Cantina & Grill is for the customers who have shops built around that parking lot... That particular lot has 30 min and 2 hour parking... FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS!! Something HAS got to be done to ease this parking problem for Estes Park's visitors AND its full time residents. It has got so bad that RESIDENTS do not even want to go downtown because we can't find parking spots where we go for coffee, for our groceries, our hardware store, etc... I AGREE that all of Elkhorn Avenue should be blocked off to cars, much like Boulder did for the "Pearl Street" area... Anyone else have any awesome ideas.... Bring em on, please!!!
MYRNA GOFF

Estes Park, CO

#20 Jul 14, 2012
michelle wrote:
Hi there, I have this thing between my legs that yellow liquid comes out of about 30 minutes after I drink a lot of water...any help?
You don't know what the furry animals are?? Why are you here... And your next comment is even worse... You don't need to make comments like that on TOPIX!!! GO HOME.

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