Male Gynecologist
CHRIS

West Roxbury, MA

#3092 Dec 16, 2012
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND wrote:
...and there's Chris too! Sorry mate, forgot about you buddy! I like your compassionate approach. I think we have the 'A team' formed between us lol! X
Thanks E.H., I felt left out there for a moment, Lol.
CHRIS

West Roxbury, MA

#3095 Dec 16, 2012
pailrider wrote:
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EH DITTO went through exactly the same as you, also used the yahoo site and experienced the same problems,was moderated like yourself,
my head was seriously messed up. IMO there is a strong connection with moderators and medics, hence their stealth in controlling the board, stop members like us posting links, which discredit doctors,
it makes sense they are in on it controlling us, I unregistered a while ago after snide comments, tonight went back to see Bootz hassle on there, changed my mind after receiving a list of registration requests from the board moderators Charles and Charles. We fight back at these people here, with freedom of speech. BTW the feeling is mutual, total respect of your views and effort!
What the title of Bootz's blog on yahoo ? I havnt seen it.

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#3096 Dec 16, 2012
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text> What the title of Bootz's blog on yahoo ? I havnt seen it.
Aww thanks - feeling all warm n fluffy here guys - and I too love the Brit Grit in me! In US

I don't even know my title there - c/be bootz or Debz or cutzbs - stands for cut the bull shit! LOL

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#3098 Dec 17, 2012
pailrider wrote:
IMO do not use the Yahoo group, the moderators ask for personal details.
Yahoo "already" have on file.
Breach of privacy.
Posts are censored.
No freedom of speech.
Posses a question,what is their real agenda.
Medical connection probably.
Chris the site is of no use imo!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/howhusbandsfeel...
Ditto!! I've brought at least 1 member over here with me - as a consequence of the lynching he witnessed and stood up to over there

I look forward to seeing him commenting here on topix soon

I said that he will feel welcome and @ home among you gents

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#3100 Dec 17, 2012
pailrider wrote:
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Good move bootz, I wonder what their real agenda is on Yahoo? Not for our good imo. Wonder how many others have been effected by those pair? In the end people fight back, given time don't we!
Interestingly Hector over there pointed out that they seem particularly keen on the graphic cntent when women testify their trauma.....but any real intellectual content is frowned upon - especially when it points to the core issues of medical abuse without the soft soaping

Quite possibly the men are simply perverted. Old man Robert Spaulding actually commented that he has no personal need but hangs around for the benefit of the youth still hurting....yeh right, he to me seems the worst offender of the bunch

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#3103 Dec 18, 2012
pailrider wrote:
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Bootz IMO they have issues and agenda's, not in our favor, that is why I suspect a medical connection, keep poster under their control with censorship. Cant think of any other reason. Repeat, my
worry is, their requests on registration, name address, gender, age, email address and a misleading request for your password plus inside leg measurement lol.
As registered (Yahoo User)Yahoo already have your details on file, something not right about the registration process IMHO!
Spaulding said that, not to be trusted IMO, Definitely a hidden agenda.
Pailryder can I ask for your feedback on this please? I think this may indeed be a way forward....it came to me as I was emailing one of the mutineers from that weird Yahoo forum. This could be what we ultimately aim for......default female medics, males under special request, waiting list, husband consent and documented reason and appointment details so incidents could be followed up.

I always saw it as a positive and complimentary factor, that ones husband/partner doesn't want to share what he cherishes so.

This is why I feel sorry for couples who "settle" for open relationships or who "swing". To me, as the woman, it would mean my partner doesn't care enough - indeed he is on the "pimp spectrum" of behavior. Indeed I saw on Dr Phil that some husbands allow their wives to become "escorts" or sell sex via web cams....this is just further along the same spectrum

What I am trying to say is - its a good thing when husbands/boyfriends fight you away from the male gyno

This issue never came up with me and my ex-husband, because there is no way I would ever see a male Dr again for such things. Even had I not suffered that abuse the 1 visit I did make for my pregnancy test - as a married women, I would never visit a male gyno anyway

Tbh - I always saw it as weird - but I decided to be a grown up and do the appointment because back in the early 1980s there were hardly any female GPs

Furthermore - I didn't expect these events to unfold as part of a "pregnancy test" was caught off guard.

I feel that female gynos should be the default option here in the 21st century and those who still insist on male gynos, for whatever reason I can't imagine, should have to specifically request one, get consent from their husband, then go on a waiting list for one...all being legally documented so that any incidents can be followed up

The climate is all wrong - what still goes on daily in these clinics - is abnormal

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#3106 Dec 19, 2012
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND wrote:
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Pailrider & Bootz, I love you both, you know that so I'm hoping that you won't mind if I stay neutral with regards the yahoo group issue.
The thing is, I think I understand why they are the way they are on there. I believe that they wanted to make it difficult for people with the wrong intention to join the group and easy to moderate post from members that are getting a little 'charged'.
I honestly believe that they merely wish to be taken seriously by the medical institution rather than be written off as 'mentally unstable' etc. It's so easy for the meds to do that if members 'fire off' with out thinking before they speak.
Theirs is merely a different approach to ours and I respect both methods and believe that they are both necessary.
We're going for the direct public exposure here, whereas they are trying to gather evidence and alter things politically.
I had loads of help and support on there and I was sent so much useful information all to help me fight for true choice of gender.
Really... we need then on-side, we must pull together. Misty is great too, we can't do this alone.
Hope you don't mind me saying?
I am far less neutral than Pailrider on this one - you wouldnt believe the type of bullying I have just experienced over there

I would recommend that forum to NO ONE until they remove the current moderator Charles K

While people are busy flirting with the all-powerful medical profession, women are being victimized hourly by medical rape

These same victims are invited to post to this forum, and are treated with utter disrespect

Such that I have never witnissed since my school days of ethnic minority bullying

I could post paragraphs here to illustrate my point - but I am just glad to be rid of the toxicity and lies

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#3107 Dec 19, 2012
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND wrote:
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Pailrider & Bootz, I love you both, you know that so I'm hoping that you won't mind if I stay neutral with regards the yahoo group issue.
The thing is, I think I understand why they are the way they are on there. I believe that they wanted to make it difficult for people with the wrong intention to join the group and easy to moderate post from members that are getting a little 'charged'.
I honestly believe that they merely wish to be taken seriously by the medical institution rather than be written off as 'mentally unstable' etc. It's so easy for the meds to do that if members 'fire off' with out thinking before they speak.
Theirs is merely a different approach to ours and I respect both methods and believe that they are both necessary.
We're going for the direct public exposure here, whereas they are trying to gather evidence and alter things politically.
I had loads of help and support on there and I was sent so much useful information all to help me fight for true choice of gender.
Really... we need then on-side, we must pull together. Misty is great too, we can't do this alone.
Hope you don't mind me saying?
This is 1 explanation I emailed privately on this issue, I will post the other next:

Yes but from when it starts to create victims via "name calling", dishonesty and two-faced ridicule - it needs to humbly repent or face its own toxic demise

Notice, Hector, that they say that the individual(s) have turned venomous - again spreading lies and slander, because, whilst ill be the first to own up to becoming venomous off site, you NEVER have

These two cowards simply can't face the truth and that's how this whole debacle started in the first place

Even now elder Robert Spaulding can't own up to his obvious offensive comments "nit twit" moron cry baby and the like - and throughout all of his obvious and public offense - he was never moderated - simply because he supported the moderators in their dishonest marginalization and never uttered a word of honest criticism or questioning

The confused fragmented group of "yes men" they are left with is all they can cope with. And wholly predictable...I knew their toxicity would return to them live and undiluted - its the inevitable law of nature

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#3108 Dec 19, 2012
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND wrote:
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Pailrider & Bootz, I love you both, you know that so I'm hoping that you won't mind if I stay neutral with regards the yahoo group issue.
The thing is, I think I understand why they are the way they are on there. I believe that they wanted to make it difficult for people with the wrong intention to join the group and easy to moderate post from members that are getting a little 'charged'.
I honestly believe that they merely wish to be taken seriously by the medical institution rather than be written off as 'mentally unstable' etc. It's so easy for the meds to do that if members 'fire off' with out thinking before they speak.
Theirs is merely a different approach to ours and I respect both methods and believe that they are both necessary.
We're going for the direct public exposure here, whereas they are trying to gather evidence and alter things politically.
I had loads of help and support on there and I was sent so much useful information all to help me fight for true choice of gender.
Really... we need then on-side, we must pull together. Misty is great too, we can't do this alone.
Hope you don't mind me saying?
Furthermore - be clear on your perpose and dont migrate it - its not fair on the members to suddenly try turn the forum into an academic challenge to the medical profession when your initial qualifier states no such agenda

One Member (who has now also left) wrote

I wouldn't put much thought on the opinions of this little man known as CK. He is having is little power trip and soon will be left commanding an army of 2 or 3 members.

There is a subgroup of intelligent and caring members and they also will soon get tired of CK and what he turned the group into.

I noticed he posted that he put us on the spam folder, I would bet that he didn't and even if he did I'm positive he still checks for the messages. He needs to be validated, he thrives for the admiration of others and gets all worked up when doesn't get it.

In all honesty I don't care what CK thinks of me, he is inconsequential in my life. I'm not THAT old but in my almost 46 years in this world I've learn to cherish those who truly care and to dismiss the hypocrites.

9:53 PM (1 hour ago)

I REPLIED:

Amen me too - in my 47 yrs I have learned that people reap what they sow

He sows dishonesty, discord, hateful pride, and cowardice

Up till now he still hasn't addressed the main bully over recent posts

At least my comments were focused on bringing Tina out of her imminent downfall.....his were a patronizing attempt to shut me down and ridicule me.

Up till now so one has been able to address the elephant in the room....where did I "name call"? What's the relevance of text slang, typos and spelling mistakes?

Furthermore you don't create a public forum with one qualifying agenda "that you are a victim or serious advocate of same sex medical care" then flip the agenda on members - that it is a professional forum of academic political activists

You realise you are creating a problem right there - the former could invite/accept/welcome an illiterate prostitute, then the latter hidden agenda will expel and ridicule her

Thank God it was me this happened to - since I am secure in who I am, my morals and intellectual/language ability

Or else this forum would have sent me away severely broken with deep seated wounds - and further victimized me - again at the hands of yet another male dominated "professional" group

You see how serious this really is!!!
CHRIS

Worcester, MA

#3119 Dec 21, 2012
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND wrote:
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Yeah I know, I do think they're on our side though and the larger our bat the harder we hit the balls of those perverted male gynecologists messing with our wives. Last time my wife went to one I got told off for interupting by asking when I could come and pick her up to drive her home?! It was like he'd confiscated my wife?! Definite power trip or something going on there. It was VERY wierd! She was like hypnotised by his 'Dr' title, the setting, the money they earn, the power they have. It's all 'too much' for most women to reject! And the docs know that! About time they were made extinct! If men refuse to date women that go to male gynos then maybe the women will change as the male gyno can't date them all lol!(he wishes tho!)
He "told you off","
Ha?
CHRIS

Newark, NY

#3121 Dec 21, 2012
pailrider wrote:
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Some are pig headed, especially if challenged.
I know, that would have sent me off, verbally. Their arrogance has pissed me off before and I know I've done likewise.:)

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#3122 Dec 21, 2012
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND wrote:
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WOW Pailrider! This is one SERIOUS link... and bang up to date to!
It's coming out in the open at last! Well done buddy!
And Canadian :0

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#3123 Dec 21, 2012
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND wrote:
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It's been a while since I've been on there Bootz, it's probably different now. I know you're genuine. I'm here now anyhow... and staying with you guys!
:)
Since all this shamefully excessive moderation - 1 has left and joined us - he is reading up and will start posting soon....we 3 who left in support of each other email privately now.

5 have protested about the unfairness of our treatment and bias, petty moderation and asked moderators to invite us back (me and 2 others that left the circus) None of us want to return.....because the simply isnt any value add.

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#3124 Dec 21, 2012
pailrider wrote:
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Bootz congratulations, what a fantastic post, words I could never put together, a perfect interpretation of the situation on the Yahoo board, supposed to help those effected by intimate exams. It did help me but was soon aware of problems on the BB, namely censorship and snide comments, lack of freedom of speech, not able get things off chest thingy, we all need that some times imo...
My posts were withheld by Charles, then he posts to the board, ones he liked (NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH) did you know that?
Thank you Pailrider

I didnt know you ever posted to that forum.....there are no quality discussions there because they'r too distracted with irrelevancies

I wouldnt think either one of us could belong amongst such pretenders

I find it hard to think that I would have provided all of the details that you spoke of in order to join - unless of course I provided fake info

I dont think I ever testified to the group up front as they request.....just as well, for they are not to be trusted to conduct themselves as sensitive gentlemen.
Jessie

UK

#3126 Jan 13, 2013
I think that the massive 250k+ salaries that doctors receive here in the UK from the NHS service is nearly as obsene as the fact that are allowed to continue to practise even if they've sexually abused a patient.

It's about time that the British Government came down hard on doctors and treat them like any other employee rather than put them on a pedistall which is obviously making them think they can do just as they please.
Jessie

UK

#3127 Jan 13, 2013
Some consultants are paid so much money from a broke NHS that they don't know what to do with the excess money they have. They usually end up buy property all over the country to try and get rid of some of their money when patients around them die through lack of funding.

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#3128 Jan 13, 2013
Jessie wrote:
I think that the massive 250k+ salaries that doctors receive here in the UK from the NHS service is nearly as obsene as the fact that are allowed to continue to practise even if they've sexually abused a patient.
It's about time that the British Government came down hard on doctors and treat them like any other employee rather than put them on a pedistall which is obviously making them think they can do just as they please.
100% agreement
EEEE HHHH

Norwich, UK

#3129 Jan 13, 2013
Jessie wrote:
I think that the massive 250k+ salaries that doctors receive here in the UK from the NHS service is nearly as obsene as the fact that are allowed to continue to practise even if they've sexually abused a patient.
It's about time that the British Government came down hard on doctors and treat them like any other employee rather than put them on a pedistall which is obviously making them think they can do just as they please.
Hi Jessie, yes I agree with you too.
CHRIS

Hadley, MA

#3131 Jan 14, 2013
Jessie wrote:
Some consultants are paid so much money from a broke NHS that they don't know what to do with the excess money they have. They usually end up buy property all over the country to try and get rid of some of their money when patients around them die through lack of funding.
In the U.S. private hospitals, clinics, etc dont have to hire male gynecologist if they dont want to. The therory being male gyn's won't see as many patients as female gyn's because most woman want to only see woman. Bottom line, the female doctor will see more patients bringing in more money. A male doctor sued (of course) citing discrimination. The courts ruled against the male gynecologist (poor boy) using the example of female restroom and locker room (health clubs) attendants. Places, especially locker rooms where you couldn't have a male in there while woman are changing, shower, using the restroom etc. As long as it is private (all health clubs I know of are)the government doesn't have any say in the matter. Correct me if I'm wrong; it would appear as though in the U.K. The governement does have a say in the matter, saving the male gyn's butts. Over hear there isnt any guarantee of finding a job after M.S., etc. I know in M.S. its already 90-95% female students in obgyn. The male students can go w/o a jobs after graduation for all I care about, they knew this before making their choice. In the U.S. it's all about,"supply and demand." the demand is for woman obgyn's, the supply WILL BE MET.
Jessie

UK

#3133 Jan 14, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text>In the U.S. private hospitals, clinics, etc dont have to hire male gynecologist if they dont want to. The therory being male gyn's won't see as many patients as female gyn's because most woman want to only see woman. Bottom line, the female doctor will see more patients bringing in more money. A male doctor sued (of course) citing discrimination. The courts ruled against the male gynecologist (poor boy) using the example of female restroom and locker room (health clubs) attendants. Places, especially locker rooms where you couldn't have a male in there while woman are changing, shower, using the restroom etc. As long as it is private (all health clubs I know of are)the government doesn't have any say in the matter. Correct me if I'm wrong; it would appear as though in the U.K. The governement does have a say in the matter, saving the male gyn's butts. Over hear there isnt any guarantee of finding a job after M.S., etc. I know in M.S. its already 90-95% female students in obgyn. The male students can go w/o a jobs after graduation for all I care about, they knew this before making their choice. In the U.S. it's all about,"supply and demand." the demand is for woman obgyn's, the supply WILL BE MET.
Hi Chris, it's much different here in the UK. We have a National Health Service which is 'free', well... paid for by the UK tax payer actually. This means we are encouraged to be 'grateful' for whatever doctor we get, most of us women patients here are taught by our mothers to see the male doctor as someone to "always be trusted", it's a tradition here in the UK. It seems that people here are obsessed with doctors, we have Dr. Who and other dramas which often refer to medical doctors in admiration and respect. It's so easy for a UK doctor to take advantage of a female patient here and the meds are allowed to continue to practise and it needs to be addressed now.

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