Trollbuster

Ankeny, IA

#26 Feb 27, 2011
This site cracks me up, I thought I had heard it all until reading about a "non-sexual" penis massage. Honestly, is there anybody that stupid.
Jason

United States

#27 Feb 27, 2011
Linus wrote:
@Paul. Chris is not "technically" correct (also just called "correct" btw) or legally correct. Draping is required in all massage therapy sessions in Indiana. THAT IS THE LAW.
Legal or not, there are legit LMTs who do undraped massage in Indiana, and many other places. From a customer's point of few those massages aren't somehow worse or less legit or "prostitution" just because they're undraped. You don't have to like it, or agree with it, but that's the reality and clients are going to discuss it.
Freddy

San Diego, CA

#28 Mar 1, 2011
I enjoy my meat getting a massage. I don't want to come but just a rub and let my gf that night finish the job. Plus better tip and no mess clean up and the place will not smeel like come. Most LMT's or CMT's will not do this since it's not legal. Most clients are fat,old and ugly just like the LMT so nothing sexual is gonna happen. If you had a hot female LMT and a hot stud something would happen for sure it's just a matter of time with their sexual energy in that small room and all that touching and sweat.
Hotdude

Palo Alto, CA

#29 Mar 1, 2011
all that touching and sweating talk between two hot people are getting me hot!!
Freddy

San Diego, CA

#30 Mar 1, 2011
Hotdude wrote:
all that touching and sweating talk between two hot people are getting me hot!!
It's a normal reaction when two hot people get together. I went for my massage I walked in and waited a good 10mins at the front desk where I pay before getting my massage. I walked back to the break room where 3 girls were hangin out.

One was my massage chick so she took me to my room and gave me my massage. I tipped her in the massage room and walked past the front desk which was still empty and left. So I got a free 2hr massage but I am sure they will hit me up for the 80 when I come in next time uness they forget but I doubt it. I did get a call on my cell from the place but no voicemail if they leave a voicemail asking for it I will drive over and give them the 80 bucks.

So hotdude do you think I should give them the money asap or see if next time they ask for it? Maybe I won't go back and pocket the 80 what do you think? I hope it does not come out of the massage girl's pocket it should come out of the manager's pocket.
Trollbuster

Ankeny, IA

#31 Mar 3, 2011
Now you are cheating your imaginary MT out of her wages, for shame!
LMT

Twinsburg, OH

#32 Mar 3, 2011
I wonder.. would any of these masseuses or masseurs on this thread give a "non-sexual penis massage" to their father, grandfather, or brother? Just wondering.
Hotdude

Palo Alto, CA

#33 Mar 4, 2011
Freddy, just pay up next time. If they call and want it sooner I guess you'll have to go back. I bet the girl does not get paid for the 80 mins.
FreDdy

San Diego, CA

#34 Mar 4, 2011
Hotdude wrote:
Freddy, just pay up next time. If they call and want it sooner I guess you'll have to go back. I bet the girl does not get paid for the 80 mins.
Well they never called back. I got one call day of and no voicemail. If I got a voicemail I would have felt bad and gone back and given them the money that day. Now looking back screw them she has a lots of balls asking for a bigger tip plus no happy ending. I worked for tips in College and bad bad tips but never ask someone for a bigger tip. I tip 20 for a good massage and 30-40 for happy ending. I heard these women from China come here on a work visa and do not get one dollar of the 80 dollars. My advice to these girls if you want a bigger tip speak no english, don't ask for more tip very rude and give hj's.
Trollbuster

Ankeny, IA

#35 Mar 4, 2011
You are really a lowlife to take advantage of women in dire straits. Hope you are never reduced to having to give handjobs just to have enough money to eat at least once a day.
Canadian Massage Therapis

Milton, Canada

#37 Apr 1, 2011
wow american massage therapy must be different. Here we are a medical profession and must be registered with 2200 hours of school and thorough exams also goes through health benefits. that would NEVER stand here. we have boundaries with draping as well as massaging. massaging the penis is completely wrong, i would think even in the states.
These people give REAL massage therapists a bad name
Jason

United States

#38 Apr 1, 2011
Canadian Massage Therapis wrote:
wow american massage therapy must be different. Here we are a medical profession and must be registered with 2200 hours of school and thorough exams also goes through health benefits. that would NEVER stand here. we have boundaries with draping as well as massaging. massaging the penis is completely wrong, i would think even in the states.
These people give REAL massage therapists a bad name
That does not at all fit my experience in Toronto. If anything, I found therapists there to be more liberal with "boundaries" than many in the U.S.
Thor Elfdail

Cleveland, OH

#40 Apr 5, 2011
For all that massage should relax us, some posting here seem pretty uptight. Prostitution is often in the eye of the beholder, eh? Remember the dude who paid a woman $80,000, but she only had sex with him once, so he divorced her after the first year? In any sane nation, a massage could include a penis massage, and it probably wouldn't be a "non-sexual" penis massage (if such a thing even exists). It could well be a non-release erotic penis massage. Call it a "Tantric" penis massage, but you don't need to call it that. I've practiced this with two different masseuses in my neck of the woods, total of nine sessions. Sure, it's nice to come sometimes, but I can do that myself. What I can't do myself -- or what I'd rather not do myself -- is spend 15 minutes in a short-but-relaxing back massage, followed by 45 minutes of slow, tantalizing, intense and prolonged genital pleasuring, edging up towards ejaculation, then holding back again and again while the energy builds and builds, massaging the energy out into my body until I reach a rather altered state where I don't mind a bit when she stops and it's time for me to go because the high-energy state lingers for a long time (hours, couple days) and this is a good way to focus one's energy when one has tasks to accomplish. Heck, if your Hometown ball team practiced this with their cheerleaders, they'd win the State Championship for sure! Anyhow, the aroused state is very conducive to meeting pleasant women for potential real relationships, or just hooking up with an inexpensive street girl for a nice,$30 BBBJ. Now what's so terrible and immoral about any of this?

As for Bill 24, don't be afraid to tell your masseuse what you have in mind. You can let her know that if it's not her cup of tea, you can accept it. And the two young women I mentioned above are both certified, for what that's worth (not much, imho):-)
LMT

Twinsburg, OH

#41 Apr 7, 2011
Thor Elfdail wrote:
15 minutes in a short-but-relaxing back massage, followed by 45 minutes of slow, tantalizing, intense and prolonged genital pleasuring
Ha, you just made my point!
You definitely DON'T need to go to a Massage Therapist if that's all you're looking for.
Any young tramp would do...
Thor Elfdail

Cleveland, OH

#42 Apr 7, 2011
LMT wrote:
<quoted text>Ha, you just made my point!
You definitely DON'T need to go to a Massage Therapist if that's all you're looking for.
Any young tramp would do...
Ah, LMT, but any young tramp won't do. Because she won't likely be certified in massage, will she? Let alone, skilled in Tantric tantalization :-)
LMT

Twinsburg, OH

#43 Apr 8, 2011
Thor Elfdail wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, LMT, but any young tramp won't do. Because she won't likely be certified in massage, will she? Let alone, skilled in Tantric tantalization :-)
What you want is a quickie backrub followed by an extended hand job. That's not massage therapy.
And if you spent some time working on your social skills, you MIGHT be able to find a true girlfriend instead of trolling the "massage" places for pay-for-sex. Loser

Since: Oct 10

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#44 Apr 8, 2011
Thor Elfdail wrote:
For all that massage should relax us, some posting here seem pretty uptight. Prostitution is often in the eye of the beholder, eh? Remember the dude who paid a woman $80,000, but she only had sex with him once, so he divorced her after the first year? In any sane nation, a massage could include a penis massage, and it probably wouldn't be a "non-sexual" penis massage (if such a thing even exists). It could well be a non-release erotic penis massage. Call it a "Tantric" penis massage, but you don't need to call it that. I've practiced this with two different masseuses in my neck of the woods, total of nine sessions. Sure, it's nice to come sometimes, but I can do that myself. What I can't do myself -- or what I'd rather not do myself -- is spend 15 minutes in a short-but-relaxing back massage, followed by 45 minutes of slow, tantalizing, intense and prolonged genital pleasuring, edging up towards ejaculation, then holding back again and again while the energy builds and builds, massaging the energy out into my body until I reach a rather altered state where I don't mind a bit when she stops and it's time for me to go because the high-energy state lingers for a long time (hours, couple days) and this is a good way to focus one's energy when one has tasks to accomplish. Heck, if your Hometown ball team practiced this with their cheerleaders, they'd win the State Championship for sure! Anyhow, the aroused state is very conducive to meeting pleasant women for potential real relationships, or just hooking up with an inexpensive street girl for a nice,$30 BBBJ. Now what's so terrible and immoral about any of this?
As for Bill 24, don't be afraid to tell your masseuse what you have in mind. You can let her know that if it's not her cup of tea, you can accept it. And the two young women I mentioned above are both certified, for what that's worth (not much, imho):-)
I'm just a tad bit confused reading your post. How does sexual favors encompass a sane nation? Please verify your answer for me, and I would appreciate some studies to back this up.

I think everyone can agree that massage can be relaxing (since I do therapeutic massage that can involve painful release of TP's, relaxation massage is outside my scope of abilities and practice), but not quite following how a relaxation massage then turns into a sexual massage.

Can you inform me as to what schools teach this? There was nothing about this on the National Exam, so please forgive me my confusion and explain.
Thor Elfdail

Cleveland, OH

#45 Apr 8, 2011
Well, bellfly, why do we need "studies" to show us what is and is not a "sane nation." Because it's pretty evident without studies that ours is not a sane nation. Why do you think sexual favors have anything to do with sanity? Or morality? And who cares what some National Exam may or may not contain, when one is interested in sexual favors that may occur as part of a massage between two consenting adults?

As for you, LMT, why do you suggest that a man find a girlfriend to give him a handjob? Isn't that a pretty shallow reason to start up a significant relationship? What kind of person are you? Besides, in most cases, a man's wife would disapprove! So now you're promoting domestic violence and divorce. One thing I notice about you blue-nose wowser types, for all your holy show, you tend to be responsible for much evil! Finally, many older males enjoy spending quality time with young women in their twenties. Obviously, most twenty-something women don't care to become romantically involved with 50-70 year old males, however interesting they may find them. So some sort of pecuniary compensation must be involved. However scandalous you find that, what right do you have to deny either party here what they need and want? And what's so wrong with this anyhow? A woman must pay her way and the younger boys can't or won't do that, or in many cases the woman in question simply does't care to be beholden to anyone. Erotic massage offers a wonderful way for a woman to make her way in the world. For the god's sake, LMT, why do you imagine that massage is only about working on hamstrings, glutes, etc? How drab and boring!
trollbuster

Des Moines, IA

#46 Apr 9, 2011
Thor Elfdail wrote:
Well, bellfly, why do we need "studies" to show us what is and is not a "sane nation." Because it's pretty evident without studies that ours is not a sane nation. Why do you think sexual favors have anything to do with sanity? Or morality? And who cares what some National Exam may or may not contain, when one is interested in sexual favors that may occur as part of a massage between two consenting adults?
As for you, LMT, why do you suggest that a man find a girlfriend to give him a handjob? Isn't that a pretty shallow reason to start up a significant relationship? What kind of person are you? Besides, in most cases, a man's wife would disapprove! So now you're promoting domestic violence and divorce. One thing I notice about you blue-nose wowser types, for all your holy show, you tend to be responsible for much evil! Finally, many older males enjoy spending quality time with young women in their twenties. Obviously, most twenty-something women don't care to become romantically involved with 50-70 year old males, however interesting they may find them. So some sort of pecuniary compensation must be involved. However scandalous you find that, what right do you have to deny either party here what they need and want? And what's so wrong with this anyhow? A woman must pay her way and the younger boys can't or won't do that, or in many cases the woman in question simply does't care to be beholden to anyone. Erotic massage offers a wonderful way for a woman to make her way in the world. For the god's sake, LMT, why do you imagine that massage is only about working on hamstrings, glutes, etc? How drab and boring!
Wow! You have some issues to work through, good luck on it!
Thor Elfdail

Cleveland, OH

#47 Apr 11, 2011
Quoting Trollbuster:
Wow! You have some issues to work through, good luck on it!

Tsk, tsk, tsk, trollbuster. To what do you attribute your inability to type a well-reasoned response and your tendency to post in one-line smart-ass quips? Do you suffer from a two-second attention span? Are you feeling uninspired and dull today? Or are you simply lazy?

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