Massage Envy or Elements
bsalas

Eugene, OR

#1 Mar 12, 2010
Anyone LMTs have any experience working at either one of these places?

They both opened up recently in our area and have been advertising for LMTs. A friend told me they pay minimum wage and expect the therapist to make up the difference in tips. As far as I know they offer no benefits, so where does the other $32.00 an hour go?

I love the idea of having a steady stream of clients, but I can make just as much working part time at my current spa. I just need to make more money.
BAD Massage Envy Eugene

Morton, WA

#2 Jul 31, 2010
BE AWARE...Massage Envy of Eugene, Oregon did not honor their verbal word...
My wife and I have been extremely busy and unable use our MASSAGE ENVY of Eugene, Oregon membership. After fulfilling our one year agreement I called MASSAGE ENVY of Eugene, Oregon and said I needed to cancel our membership.
The individual on the phone at MASSAGE ENVY of Eugene, Oregon said I would need to come in and sign papers to cancel the membership (as per contract) but that "FROM THE DATE OF MY PHONE CALL MY CREDIT CARD WOULD NOT BE CHARGED AGAIN!!"
WRONG!
When I was finally able to get in a few weeks later to sign cancellation papers MASSAGE ENVY of Eugene, Oregon told me there would be one more charge on my credit card.
I asked MASSAGE ENVY of Eugene, Oregon about the phone call and was told no one from MASSAGE ENVY of Eugene, Oregon would ever had said that...in other words they told me...."YOU ARE A LIAR!!"
BE AWARE! I was told one thing by MASSAGE ENVYof Eugene, Oregon and MASSAGE ENVY of Eugene, Oregon did another....it happened to me it could happen to you.
Michael

New York, NY

#3 Aug 1, 2010
I have always been intrigued by the name "Massage Envy." They seem to be playing on the psychological term, "Penis Envy." My guess is many people would assume that a happy ending is part of the massage there.

Is that how they expect you to get the big tips?
bobsalas

Eugene, OR

#4 Aug 1, 2010
Michael wrote:
I have always been intrigued by the name "Massage Envy." They seem to be playing on the psychological term, "Penis Envy." My guess is many people would assume that a happy ending is part of the massage there.
Is that how they expect you to get the big tips?
Sounds like you have given this a lot of thought. How do you make the leap from "massage envy" to "penis envy" to "happy ending?"

Maybe you have given it too much thought.
BILLY BOB

Palmdale, CA

#5 Oct 27, 2010
i hear at massage envy you can get a happy ending if you tip good!
not sure is this is true at all locations.
http://www.mpr411.info
Envy owner from Texas

Beaverton, OR

#6 Mar 12, 2011
bsalas wrote:
Anyone LMTs have any experience working at either one of these places?
They both opened up recently in our area and have been advertising for LMTs. A friend told me they pay minimum wage and expect the therapist to make up the difference in tips. As far as I know they offer no benefits, so where does the other $32.00 an hour go?
I love the idea of having a steady stream of clients, but I can make just as much working part time at my current spa. I just need to make more money.
Well to answer your question where does the other $32 an hour go? Its more like $20-$24.

ANd it goes to pay for advertising, utilities, front desk staff, lotions, linens, uniforms, supplies, etc etc.... these are all things BUSINESS people know about.
Jason

Clearfield, PA

#7 Mar 13, 2011
Michael wrote:
I have always been intrigued by the name "Massage Envy." They seem to be playing on the psychological term, "Penis Envy."
I've always thought it was a strange name, too. If it's NOT supposed to be a play on "penis envy", I'd like to know what exactly it is supposed to mean. Even if it IS a play on that, for that matter, it's still kind of odd.

Are you supposed to envy the people who get massages there? Are you supposed to envy the therapists? Are others going to envy you for getting a massage? WTF does envy have to do with massage, anyway? Really bizarre.
SAS

Dothan, AL

#8 May 25, 2011
Massage Envy is WONDERFUL!
Decept

Lowell, MA

#9 Dec 19, 2011
I think you are over complicating your thoughts by comparing massage envy with penis envy. What I get out of the name is.... The person walking out of massage envy is relaxed and stress free. You, have not had a massage, not relaxed and stressed... So you envy the person who had the massage because they feel better than you do.... Massage envy is offering the envy :D.

....I do not work or have any relations with massage envy.
Bob

Portland, OR

#10 Dec 19, 2011
Wish you guys would stay on topic.
This is not helping anyone.
Thank a lot and Merry Christmas.
Hinton

United States

#11 Feb 1, 2013
So what about the happy ending part
Becca

Daphne, AL

#12 Jul 29, 2013
Envy owner from Texas wrote:
<quoted text>
Well to answer your question where does the other $32 an hour go? Its more like $20-$24.
ANd it goes to pay for advertising, utilities, front desk staff, lotions, linens, uniforms, supplies, etc etc.... these are all things BUSINESS people know about.
Think.... I'd like to make my own choices with advertising, what lotion, sheets, hours ect...
Becca

Daphne, AL

#13 Jul 29, 2013
With regards to where the money goes. I think I'd like to be the one who makes the choices about advertising, what I wear as a uniform and what kinds of products I use. And BTW, minimum wage in Alabama is only around 10.00 if that.
Between these cheap massage establishmets like Massage Envy and The Groupon or massage coupon ; Massage Therapy is becoming de-valued . Meaning the whole Industry will suffer
MariC

Santee, CA

#16 May 2, 2014
Becca wrote:
With regards to where the money goes. I think I'd like to be the one who makes the choices about advertising, what I wear as a uniform and what kinds of products I use. And BTW, minimum wage in Alabama is only around 10.00 if that.
Between these cheap massage establishmets like Massage Envy and The Groupon or massage coupon ; Massage Therapy is becoming de-valued . Meaning the whole Industry will suffer
AMEN Becca.
I have been a therepist for over 20 years. Recently I moved and looked for a new spa to work in. I was shocked at how little these "chain" spas pay. 16.00 dollars an hour?!?!? You must be kidding me. I was getting $75.00 where I was before, and that was fair. Massage therapists go to school, and work hard making other people feel good. We deserve fair compensation and not a fast food wage.
Dana

Huntington Beach, CA

#17 Jul 3, 2014
MariC where were u making $75?
Kayla

Hermitage, TN

#18 Jul 5, 2014
SAS wrote:
Massage Envy is WONDERFUL!
Yes Massage Envy is wonderful, I've worked for them for nearly 10 years since they started their franchise business. If your an LMT read more about them and massage at
http://www.massagelodge.com
Testersite

Kirkland, WA

#19 Jun 6, 2015
Test for posting requirements
Scott

Kirkland, WA

#20 Jun 6, 2015
I see this is an old thread, but an important topic. My town has both Envy and Elements, and as a customer I WAY WAY prefer Elements. I suspect they pay therapists more than Envy, judging by the relative quality of the massages at each place. Elements has an easy-cancel contract, while Envy won't even let you take a copy of their contract home until you've signed it, saying "we're afraid someone will copy it". A ridiculous lie right at the outset.

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