Butt Massage
LMT

Medina, OH

#494 Jul 28, 2011
FreDDY wrote:
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Most white girls at a massage chain will not touch your quads or hip flexors very lame.
It seems like they figured you out and decided to keep far away from your groin. Maybe if you learned to act like a gentleman instead of a leg-humping dog?
Erik

San Diego, CA

#496 Jul 28, 2011
I enjoy oil on my crack.
blah

Minneapolis, MN

#497 Aug 13, 2011
I am not a happy ending troll by any means, but I've had countless massages both here in America and abroad and I must say it seems that Americans are really hung up about the possibility that someone is getting off from a massage. I mean, really, who cares if both people agree.(Yes, I know it's illegal in 48 states but those are really foolish laws when you think about them.) Go to Germany, Japan, Canada, Austria, China or wherever and the "complete" massage is almost always possible. And I'm not talking about the "massage" where the masseuse doesn't know the first thing about massage, either. I'm talking trained professionals who may have slightly different boundaries.

Everyone's idea of morality and ethics are not the same. Some folks put the line they won't cross in a different place. Who the hell are we to judge them?

And what about the people who have no other recourse for sensual touch in their lives? Do we really want to reinforce the idea that that part of their body is dirty, ugly or just generally bad? I'd personally think that a little positive feedback might be helpful in the long run.

I'm certainly not suggesting that anyone should do anything they don't want to do, but there sure seem to be a lot of judges around here.
Paul

Birmingham, AL

#498 Aug 15, 2011
blah wrote:
I am not a happy ending troll by any means, but I've had countless massages both here in America and abroad and I must say it seems that Americans are really hung up about the possibility that someone is getting off from a massage. I mean, really, who cares if both people agree.(Yes, I know it's illegal in 48 states but those are really foolish laws when you think about them.) Go to Germany, Japan, Canada, Austria, China or wherever and the "complete" massage is almost always possible. And I'm not talking about the "massage" where the masseuse doesn't know the first thing about massage, either. I'm talking trained professionals who may have slightly different boundaries.
Everyone's idea of morality and ethics are not the same. Some folks put the line they won't cross in a different place. Who the hell are we to judge them?
And what about the people who have no other recourse for sensual touch in their lives? Do we really want to reinforce the idea that that part of their body is dirty, ugly or just generally bad? I'd personally think that a little positive feedback might be helpful in the long run.
I'm certainly not suggesting that anyone should do anything they don't want to do, but there sure seem to be a lot of judges around here.
Agreed. A lot of people are overly concerned about what other consenting adults do behind closed doors.

Now. The argument can be made that therapists offering "happy ending" massages put pressure on those therapists who don't offer HEs. Namely, a lot of massage therapists not interested in sexual services get asked about them because of this.

So I think we'd all (clients and providers alike) be better served if there was a new category of massage services in the US. "Sensual massage," which does not include full-service intercourse. Just a quality massage from a licensed therapist that concludes with a hand job.

It's clear that there is a demand for this service, and it's also quite clear there are therapists willing to supply it. There are also some who aren't; so wouldn't it be nice if everyone could openly advertise their services?

Those of us looking for BOTH a high-quality massage and a happy ending would be able to find providers who do both. Those looking for massage only (either as client or provider) could find their market as well.

This whole "under the radar" thing where therapists have to advertise with code words like "full body," "tension relief," "draping optional," etc., etc. is just silly.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#499 Aug 20, 2011
I'd love an undrapped massage. I am warm natured. The sheet makes me even more hot and it also sticks to my skin from the oil. Not so soothing. But I have no idea how to find an MT in my area that is also comfortable.

I had an MT coming to my wife and I's house monthly. I paid her in cash. Everything was great. After over a year, I enquired over email to her about my next appointment and mentioned if "undrapped" would be possible. I never heard back from that email. I have since stopped working with her since she is obviously not comfortable.

Suggestions?
Trollbuster

United States

#500 Aug 21, 2011
srednams, you sir, sound like a real creep. Please quit preying on MT's. Your excuses for wanting to be undraped are juvenile. If the sheets make you too warm, then surely your clothing does the same thing, shesh.
blah

Minneapolis, MN

#501 Aug 21, 2011
Trollbuster's last post is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. He has absolutely no idea what srednams motivations are. Neither do I. I do know this: the last thing this world needs is more cops, especially thought police. Get a life, Trollbuster!

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#502 Aug 24, 2011
Trollbuster wrote:
srednams, you sir, sound like a real creep. Please quit preying on MT's. Your excuses for wanting to be undraped are juvenile. If the sheets make you too warm, then surely your clothing does the same thing, shesh.
Huh? I only paid her in cash at her request. She was recommended by an old friend. Its really not a big deal. How am I preying on MTs? I asked her a legitimate question up front. It seemed like the most respectful approach. I don't want anyone to do anything they are not comfortable with. Both parties moved on. What's the big deal? Maybe if I lived up North, it wouldn't be a problem, but down here in the South. ITS HOT and STICKY.
happyender

Southampton, NY

#503 Aug 27, 2011
Scotty wrote:
Hello, one time I went to a massage school and received an excellent massage from a student therapist. I told her to work especially on my glutes. She was very receptive to feedback and eventually, since I told her I liked both cheeks done at the same time and requested her to just cover my crack, she misunderstood and just pulled the sheet down to my thighs and fully worked my glutes. It was extremely satisfying. I had no desire for anything improper, but she said what she was doing was fine: you always uncover the area you are working on. The massage went so well that I scheduled again with her and when I came in I asked her to just work the glutes. That's all. She did and I asked how close she was allowed to get to my perinium and crack (by just showing her with my hand). She said she could work whatever areas I felt comfortable with, as long as there was some thereputic need or something like that. Eventually, she went on her own (knowing that I was comfortable with ANYTHING, still not wanting anything illegal) and she fully rubbed all inside my crack and pushed and rubbed a great deal in the area between my nuts and hole. She never went in at all, but the pleasure was excrutiating. I have lost track of her and wondered what the proper way to request this type of massage without it getting out of hand and amounting to outright prostitution or whatever. I dont' want to come across as a perv, but I enjoy subtle techniques that many therapist use like being vigorous enough on my lower back, glutes, or legs to allow my belly to stimilate my weiner without the therapist actually touching.
i think you want to ask for a happy ending...or a prostate massage
i love the p mass....im 48 and need that at my age
dont let these prudes tell you otherwise....
davis

Pontypool, UK

#504 Sep 8, 2011
hi is this normal? my friends mum is a massage therapist and i asked her to give me a half hour massage, i changed and laid on my front in a towel she began massaging and after a couple of mins she completely removed my towel and massaged my ass and bettween my crack! i have had a massage before but kept my boxers on! shes known me since i was young and i found this very weird!
LMT

Medina, OH

#505 Sep 9, 2011
davis wrote:
hi is this normal? my friends mum is a massage therapist and i asked her to give me a half hour massage, i changed and laid on my front in a towel she began massaging and after a couple of mins she completely removed my towel and massaged my ass and bettween my crack! i have had a massage before but kept my boxers on! shes known me since i was young and i found this very weird!
Between your crack is completely unnecessary because the glutes attach to the outside borders of the sacrum. NOTHING needs to be massaged in the gluteal cleft. She was WAAAAY outside her scope of practice as a massage therapist.
blah

Minneapolis, MN

#506 Sep 9, 2011
No, LMT, respectfully, she was WAAAY outside YOUR scope of practice as a massage therapist.

Davis should simply have let her know that that was uncomfortable.

You spend so much time telling others what is wrong, unethical, etc. I'm surprised you ever have a chance to give a massage. I'll say it again: different people have different boundaries. Different countries (and even different states) have different laws. Who made you judge and jury? Have you considered a career in law enforcement?
triumph

Laguna Hills, CA

#507 Sep 15, 2011
how safe can i be with a craigs list massage therapist coming to my house for erotic massage not being a cop
Paul

Birmingham, AL

#508 Sep 15, 2011
triumph wrote:
how safe can i be with a craigs list massage therapist coming to my house for erotic massage not being a cop
Can't be 100% safe. But in most jurisdictions, cops are more interested in busting the providers than the johns. In other words, she should be more nervous about YOU.
browser

Houston, TX

#509 Sep 19, 2011
"the glutes attach to the outside borders of the sacrum."

The gluteus maximus arises from the tail bone as well as the sacrum.
Sid

Chon Buri, Thailand

#510 Sep 24, 2011
davis wrote:
hi is this normal? my friends mum is a massage therapist and i asked her to give me a half hour massage, i changed and laid on my front in a towel she began massaging and after a couple of mins she completely removed my towel and massaged my ass and bettween my crack! i have had a massage before but kept my boxers on! shes known me since i was young and i found this very weird!
The only real issue is she a MILF?

If the answer is no, she was out of line.

If the answer is yes, you should have banged her. She was letting you know it was OK.
Tyler Anthony

Rochester, NY

#511 Sep 26, 2011
Scotty wrote:
I have lost track of her and wondered what the proper way to request this type of massage without it getting out of hand and amounting to outright prostitution or whatever. I dont' want to come across as a perv, but I enjoy subtle techniques that many therapist use like being vigorous enough on my lower back, glutes, or legs to allow my belly to stimilate my weiner without the therapist actually touching.
Umm you are looking for a sexual experience. You are going to get someone in trouble including yourself. Get a girlfriend.
reality LMT

Caledonia, IL

#512 Oct 1, 2011
akb123 wrote:
I have to say that everytime I request the "in my crack and between my nuts and hole" treatment I am told to leave the premises or else they'll call the cops!
LOL love it!! First laugh of the night. Most of the comments on these threads have me seeing RED!!
reality LMT

Caledonia, IL

#513 Oct 1, 2011
Nobody wrote:
Out of curiosity, I had my husband lay on my table while I attempted to casually brush against his testicles or penis. It just doesn't happen folks.
While he was lying prone, there was no way to reach his "privates" while working the inner thigh without purposefully reaching around to the front of his leg from the medial side of his leg - very uncomfortable position for me and not able to do it unless on purpose. So - there is NO WAY to casually touch the genitals while lying prone.
While my husband was supine (face up), I did an abdominal massage - again, impossible to touch the genitals "accidentaly". I should note here that I always have my male clients place their hand over their genitals so I can avoid any accidental touch whenever I do any proximal inner thigh work or lower abdominal work. It is how most MTs are taught in school.
Same with massaging the inner thigh, i had to make a concerted effort to transition from the muscles to the genitalia - just doesn't happen accidentally.
I then told him he should ask for a happy ending the next time he gets his prostate examined. He fell off the table laughing and when we got home from the ER, he asked me to scratch his crack because he couldn't with casts on both arms and it just felt soooo goooood. Just kidding, he didn't really fall off the table.
I know this was written a long time ago, but I'm reading through the whole thread just for laughs. Now that I'm over being upset reading some of the other threads!!

I was never taught to have the guys put their hands over it. We were taught that if they 'tented' we could ask them to roll over and we would work on their back. We were also told to go up the inner thigh until it 'got warm'. Then we should stop.

I happen to work the gluts quit a bit. We were told to always work the glut muscles so that you pushed the 'butt cheeks' IN, and not work them that you 'separated' the cheeks because that was uncomfortable. They never said,'if you want, you can go down their crack and massage the poop hole!!" How gross!

LOL about scrathcing your husbands crack. When I fell and broke my arm, and had 7 staples in my head, as he was leaving my bedroom, I called him back and asked, "my butt itches, can you scratch it!!"

I think he left!
reality LMT

Caledonia, IL

#514 Oct 2, 2011
Adrenalin wrote:
Do you mind referring all of us to the section in this scope of practice in the USA or any other country for that matter that says penile and vaginal massage makes you a prostitute ??
If you want to continue belting out your opinion how about at least sticking the facts, If you massage the penis or vagina you are doing something illegal and forbidden as far as your license is concerned.
It is only an act of prostitution in your worthless opinion.
As far as I'm concerned, anytime you do 'a little extra" with hopes of getting more MONEY for that little extra something, wink,wink, its a form of prostitution. So lets say she may be a licensed massage therapist, but shes practicing prostitution with it. So in essence she's not being an ethical LMT, but an unethical massuesse/hooker. Big difference.

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