Butt Massage
Paul

Birmingham, AL

#385 Nov 8, 2010
Ronnie-

A lot of variables, and Craigslist features both strictly therapeutic, therapeutic + sensual massage, and full-on prostitutes with no massage training whatsoever. Can be exceedingly difficult to tell from the ads. Sometimes you'll see clues in the ads such as "full body massage" or "head to toe massage." The pricing structure can also be a hint. Massage that is well above the going hourly rate probably includes something extra.

Many of the clues come from draping during the actual session. For example: a therapist that uses two-layer draping (sheet + blanket) and only uncovers one small portion of the body at a time....will probably not be open to undraped massage. Doubly so for a therapist that looks away or leaves the room as you turn over. And that means she likely won't be open to happy endings, either.

At the other extreme, a therapist that allows a small towel or pillowcase-sized drape, and removes it completely while working the legs/glutes, and is a bit more careless with keeping things covered, more liberal about nudity, is more likely to offer at least undraped massage.

The middle ground is the tricky part - therapists who use a light sheet for draping, uncover the glutes mostly, and massage the thighs without actually touching the genitals. Those experiences can go either way.

My advice is to build a rapport with the therapist. I never ask for anything "extra" or different on the first visit. If the therapist offers a choice of draping, I choose the least amount of draping she offers. If no choices offered, I simply go with what is there.

On the second or third visit, I will approach the subject if I feel she is open to it, and ask for undraped massage; or tell her she can leave the towel/drape off if she removes it from my glutes. Sometimes a therapist will leave it off on the flip, often times it will be replaced over the genitals.

You're very unlikely to be the first person who wants a happy ending; either the therapist provides them or she doesn't. It isn't possible to "talk someone into" giving one if they don't provide them, so be polite & don't pressure.

If the draping is minimal/absent, and if your arousal is obvious, she may offer. If she doesn't, she may toss up a softball question to you at the end of the massage, something like "did you need massage anywhere else?" Or she may "accidentally" touch your crotch, watching for your reaction.

Some therapists, even if they provide happy endings, may need 4-5 visits before they feel comfortable enough with you. And, for whatever reason, a therapist may not ever feel comfortable enough with a particular client. Don't forget, they're vulnerable to legal liability as well.

Be polite and respectful. And if she says no, drop it. And if you don't get the "vibe" after 4-5 sessions, realize it probably won't happen. Keep seeing her if you like the massage otherwise; or else, move on.

I would say that a therapist presses her breasts against you (even clothed) for more than an occasional brush-by, especially against your face/head, might have some extras to offer. But like everything else in life, there are no guarantees!!
Ronnie wrote:
How can you tell when selecting a massage therapist off craigslist if they are legitimate or not? Obviously some of the really bawdy places are giveaway happy-ending salons, but some advertise themselves as licensed with private studios. Is ANYONE on craigslist legitimate?
What signs would there be once the massage starts that it wasnt 100% legit? Curious because my therapist openly massaged by butt with no draping (but draped me when I turned over) plus she seemed (and I don't think is my overactive imagination) to lean over so that her breasts were right in my face (she was dressed appropriately, and not asian btw) when she was massaging my stomach and chest. I thought normally they come from the side when massaging those areas? Anyways, just curious what I am dealing with here.
Paul

Birmingham, AL

#386 Nov 8, 2010
Ronnie-

A lot of variables, and Craigslist features both strictly therapeutic, therapeutic + sensual massage, and full-on prostitutes with no massage training whatsoever. Can be exceedingly difficult to tell from the ads. Sometimes you'll see clues in the ads such as "full body massage" or "head to toe massage." The pricing structure can also be a hint. Massage that is well above the going hourly rate probably includes something extra.

Many of the clues come from draping during the actual session. For example: a therapist that uses two-layer draping (sheet + blanket) and only uncovers one small portion of the body at a time....will probably not be open to undraped massage. Doubly so for a therapist that looks away or leaves the room as you turn over. And that means she likely won't be open to happy endings, either.

At the other extreme, a therapist that allows a small towel or pillowcase-sized drape, and removes it completely while working the legs/glutes, and is a bit more careless with keeping things covered, more liberal about nudity, is more likely to offer at least undraped massage.

The middle ground is the tricky part - therapists who use a light sheet for draping, uncover the glutes mostly, and massage the thighs without actually touching the genitals. Those experiences can go either way.

My advice is to build a rapport with the therapist. I never ask for anything "extra" or different on the first visit. If the therapist offers a choice of draping, I choose the least amount of draping she offers. If no choices offered, I simply go with what is there.

On the second or third visit, I will approach the subject if I feel she is open to it, and ask for undraped massage; or tell her she can leave the towel/drape off if she removes it from my glutes. Sometimes a therapist will leave it off on the flip, often times it will be replaced over the genitals.

You're very unlikely to be the first person who wants a happy ending; either the therapist provides them or she doesn't. It isn't possible to "talk someone into" giving one if they don't provide them, so be polite & don't pressure.

If the draping is minimal/absent, and if your arousal is obvious, she may offer. If she doesn't, she may toss up a softball question to you at the end of the massage, something like "did you need massage anywhere else?" Or she may "accidentally" touch your crotch, watching for your reaction.

Some therapists, even if they provide happy endings, may need 4-5 visits before they feel comfortable enough with you. And, for whatever reason, a therapist may not ever feel comfortable enough with a particular client. Don't forget, they're vulnerable to legal liability as well.

Be polite and respectful. And if she says no, drop it. And if you don't get the "vibe" after 4-5 sessions, realize it probably won't happen. Keep seeing her if you like the massage otherwise; or else, move on.

I would say that a therapist presses her breasts against you (even clothed) for more than an occasional brush-by, especially against your face/head, might have some extras to offer. But like everything else in life, there are no guarantees!!
Hot Dude

Alpharetta, GA

#387 Nov 9, 2010
when I press my hard c*ck up against your hand, that pretty clearly indicates it's ok to touch and move on to the good stuff!
FrEdDy

San Diego, CA

#388 Nov 10, 2010
I love it when I am on my back and my Chinese lady friend works my chest. She stands over my head and leans forward until I have her breasts in my face. I could just suck on them yummy.
Amused

United States

#389 Nov 17, 2010
In Europe, Asia, South America and even Canada people are not nearly so uptight about the body and sex in general. Prostate massage, pernium massage and even (gasp!) penis massage are not uncommon. Being undraped is more the norm. The way this is dealt with in the states is really amusing.
FREDDy

San Diego, CA

#390 Nov 17, 2010
Prostate, pernium, bag, butt and penis massage should be included in every massage since massage goes for 60.00 phr plus 20 tip. I think a happy ending is the only way a massage should end. Can't wait to move to Toronto I hear they have lots of massage places and strip culbs.
jack

Bayonne, NJ

#392 Nov 29, 2010
i need one

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#393 Dec 3, 2010
Freddy,
How do you equate $60 an hour with sexual favors? Not sure how you made that decision, what is your thought process on this? Are you talking about legitimate massage therapy or prostitutes who give sensual massage?
FREDDY

San Diego, CA

#394 Dec 4, 2010
Dude lets do the math I always pay 60.00 phr for massage and I tip 20. Now the local places I found charge 40phr and I get a 2hr massage so I tip 40 the Chinese lady gives me a free extra hj off the books. I never paided for sex and never will since I am young in shape, waxed and tan and pretty good looking and a healthy piece of meat between my legs. As far as what is legit or not I think this place is. She is always checking the door peep hole to see if anyone is walking by. So sounds like to me your not allowed to do this at this place but she is doing it for me since she likes me. I can say this since is always gives me a few kiss before and after. I will never know for sure since she speaks no english the perfect gf haha.

I went there aleast 6 times before and went to 3 different womens and had a straight massage at this place.I don't need the hj since I have a smoking hot Latin gf but I am not going to turn down a free hj would you? She must like me and wants me to come back as a regular. She gets turned on giving me a massage and wants to touch my thick 7 inch meat nothing wrong with that?

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#395 Dec 6, 2010
Freddy,

Hate to break it to you, but you ARE paying for sex. A hand job is considered sex and you are paying for the ladies time, ergo, you are paying for sex.

I have decided that you have actually put no thought into your statements, so will dismiss hoping to have an adult intellectual conversation with you. My bad.

I would like to address that this is Massage THERAPY forum, you might find more people interested in your "stories" on a sexual forum. Plus you might get hot dude to leave you alone by vacating your spot here. Just saying.

Have a quality day.
FREDDY

San Diego, CA

#396 Dec 6, 2010
Lets try this again and get it thur your thick head. I use to pay 60.00 phr plus 20 tip for a straight massage. Now I pay 35-40phr plus 20 tip. Now Iam getting straight massage and no tip and 5 bucks less with a free hj. This is not one of those places where you pay 50 for a 30 min massage and tip 50 for a hj like in Chinatown 20 bucks 20 mins and tip for a hj like 40-50. My friends told me what happens at those kinds of places. You don't know the law even if she was an escort you are paying for her time being with her what happens between two consenting adults and fees charged are for time spent only.

You act like you could make an arrest for entrapment sorry wrong. I am paying for her massage service not a hj what part of this don't you understand? She never asked me for money for hj and I never asked for one or was offered one. If the owners found out she was giving me a hj I am sure she would get trouble or fired but I would not go to jail since I never asked or paided for sex end of story. To prove you wrong again next time I will not tip her and see if a get another free hj.I know some owners are cheap and do not pay the girls alot like 8 phr min and some pay nothing and they depend on tips. I csn't help it if I am young, hung, tan, waxed and in shape.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#397 Dec 6, 2010
Freddy,

You are paying for the person's time and talents, it includes sex, ergo, you have paid for sex. Just because you didn't put the money in HER hand does not mean you didn't pay money for whatever happens during the "massage".

I never once said a word about entrapment or anything else. I was trying to figure out how you came to the conclusion that since you paid money, all massages entitled you to a happy ending (refer to post #390). You are jumping to some conclusions that are assumed on your part.

I really don't care how much you are paying, what "extra's" are included or anything else that you are being so defensive about. But I am trying to figure out why you write about the things you write about. In one of your previous posts you said that:

Prostate, pernium, bag, butt and penis massage should be included in every massage since massage goes for 60.00 phr plus 20 tip.

So in your own words you are equating money with sex and I was, but am no longer, curious about your thought process to arrive at this conclusion. I have since decided that you are merely rambling for your own entertainment, something quite common with middle aged, frustrated, unhappy men.

Oh, and by the by, getting waxed is not pleasurable, it is very painful, so you should find something else to fantasize and write about, kbythanx.
FREDDY

San Diego, CA

#398 Dec 6, 2010
bellfly wrote:
Freddy,
You are paying for the person's time and talents, it includes sex, ergo, you have paid for sex. Just because you didn't put the money in HER hand does not mean you didn't pay money for whatever happens during the "massage".
I never once said a word about entrapment or anything else. I was trying to figure out how you came to the conclusion that since you paid money, all massages entitled you to a happy ending (refer to post #390). You are jumping to some conclusions that are assumed on your part.
I really don't care how much you are paying, what "extra's" are included or anything else that you are being so defensive about. But I am trying to figure out why you write about the things you write about. In one of your previous posts you said that:
Prostate, pernium, bag, butt and penis massage should be included in every massage since massage goes for 60.00 phr plus 20 tip.
So in your own words you are equating money with sex and I was, but am no longer, curious about your thought process to arrive at this conclusion. I have since decided that you are merely rambling for your own entertainment, something quite common with middle aged, frustrated, unhappy men.
Oh, and by the by, getting waxed is not pleasurable, it is very painful, so you should find something else to fantasize and write about, kbythanx.
Well if being 29,strong,muscle,lean, waxed, tan and having a hot gf who gives me anal(sweet) and getting free hj's when I go for a massage who's better than me. Sounds like u wish you were me. You are fat, bald middle aged married and have a few brats for kids and never have sex. I have an idea just live thur me haha.Plenty of people have sex at the workplace. This women wants to risk her job for my pleasure who cares it's not my job on the line. She is not getting a bigger tip just my straight regular 20. I know some places offer hj's for 50 but I don't need to pay for sex never have never will unless you count having a gf counts? I was joking when I said every massage should have a hj. I been getting full body waxed for 2 years every 3 weeks so I know first hand. It does not hurt
FrEddY

San Diego, CA

#400 Dec 7, 2010
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i love a good ass massage,but then again,doesn't everyone?
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I love having my cheeks worked over but I love having my crack worked over even better. When I get my next massage I will take both of my hands and spread open my cheeks ask say oil to my Chinese massage girl. Then she can pour the oil right in and all over my crack and work it in real good. I would love her to give me a prostate massage. She has already given me the best taint massage I had in my life.
Hot Dude

Alpharetta, GA

#401 Dec 9, 2010
Freddy, I love having my crack rubbed as much as you do. And I also get waxed, I have an appt tomorrow with the hot latin chick (it doesn't beat a hot guy but it'll do), and it IS pleasurable. There is some pain, but the pleaseure outweighs it big time.
FREDDY

San Diego, CA

#402 Dec 10, 2010
Hot Dude wrote:
Freddy, I love having my crack rubbed as much as you do. And I also get waxed, I have an appt tomorrow with the hot latin chick (it doesn't beat a hot guy but it'll do), and it IS pleasurable. There is some pain, but the pleaseure outweighs it big time.
Enjoy your Latin chick just pretend she is a tranny haha. I will enjoy my hot smokin Latin MILF next Thursday!! I agree waxing is so erotic laying down naked while a hot chick pours warm wax on my crack, nuts and tool. I get hard just thinking about it.
Hot Dude

Alpharetta, GA

#403 Dec 10, 2010
I think we should go for a double waxing appt and make a party out of it!!!
FREDDY

San Diego, CA

#404 Dec 10, 2010
Hot Dude wrote:
I think we should go for a double waxing appt and make a party out of it!!!
How would that work two waxers? I bring my Latin MILF waxer and you bring your Latin Chick waxer? You can just watch me bang both Latin chicks sweet.
Hot Dude

Alpharetta, GA

#405 Dec 12, 2010
FREDDY wrote:
<quoted text>
How would that work two waxers? I bring my Latin MILF waxer and you bring your Latin Chick waxer? You can just watch me bang both Latin chicks sweet.
ok, then I bang your butt when you are done!!
FREDDy

San Diego, CA

#406 Dec 13, 2010
Hot Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
ok, then I bang your butt when you are done!!
Nah, how about we DP both Latin chicks. Maybe I will let you come on my meat and stick it back in her pie and butt haha.

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