Therapeutic Massage and Ejaculation

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#1918 Nov 22, 2012
Straight Talk wrote:
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Excuse me, but the reason you are looked at as being a perv is because you ARE a perv!
I've read many of your posts, and buddy you are a perv.
Go turn yourself in to the nearest law enforcement facility. NOW!
Okay, what do you think is a perversion? Can you be specific? Thanks
Straight Talk

Phnom Penh, Cambodia

#1919 Nov 22, 2012
Manmanman wrote:
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Okay, what do you think is a perversion? Can you be specific? Thanks
Two words: Swaddling Cloth

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#1921 Nov 22, 2012
Straight Talk wrote:
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Two words: Swaddling Cloth
What do you think is perverse with that? How do you define perversion? If you think that is perverse, we might have different definition of perversion.

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#1922 Nov 22, 2012
Daffyd, thanks for sharing. I am a little bit afraid of talking about it to the therapist. I might think it would be weird so I sometimes have extra protection in my underwear to avoid leaving seemen around there. I put a swaddling cloth inside the underwear. It's like putting some tissues there. It might be the same principles.

I use a scissor and cut it up in the sides so it is just covering the penis and a little bit around.

For me it might be a practical solution. I wanted to be serious, but I have been harrassed for it in here.

I am single and I sometimes don't masturbate, and then I can easily experience ejaculation.

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#1923 Nov 22, 2012
I think it is difficult to share with other people about those things. What do you think guys?

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#1925 Nov 22, 2012
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I'm sorry, but it just sounds like way too much work for something that should otherwise be totally relaxing. Almost like you're defeating the purpose of the massage, and maybe even setting yourself up mentally at the same time for the expected result. I just found telling the therapist the truth cleared the air. I don't plan to continue as if I expect the same thing to happen every single time considering it was one time out of all my years of getting massage. But I guess each person has to do what's right for them :)
Thanks for sharing. I am single, and I don't want to masturbate. My body builds up tension. Sometimes my body reacts with ejaculation, and sometimes it doesn't. I can usually not know upfront.

I relax more if I have that protection. Then I don't need to worry. I can also feel that it is a little bit more ethical because I am protecting my privates.

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#1926 Nov 22, 2012
Daffyd wrote:
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I'm sorry, but it just sounds like way too much work for something that should otherwise be totally relaxing. Almost like you're defeating the purpose of the massage, and maybe even setting yourself up mentally at the same time for the expected result. I just found telling the therapist the truth cleared the air. I don't plan to continue as if I expect the same thing to happen every single time considering it was one time out of all my years of getting massage. But I guess each person has to do what's right for them :)
I totally agree with you. I've talked to my MT about ejaculation during a massage. She is a totally legit MT, she said don't worry, if it happens, it happens and it is good for your health. Those were her exact words. Like you said worring about that defeats the purpose of a relaxing massage.

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#1927 Nov 22, 2012
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I totally agree with you. I've talked to my MT about ejaculation during a massage. She is a totally legit MT, she said don't worry, if it happens, it happens and it is good for your health. Those were her exact words. Like you said worring about that defeats the purpose of a relaxing massage.
It's fair enough. It might be good if I managed to be that tough and talk about it.

Thanks for sharing.

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#1929 Nov 23, 2012
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Like I said, each person has to do what's right for them. I myself prefer to be nude providing my MT is at ease. I don't feel my state of clothing adds to or decreases from the ethical nature of the massage - that is determined by the comfort level, professionalism, and the communication I share with my MT. The bottom line is a massage is, in a sense, an intimate relationship with one's MT - whether male or female. I personally could not completely relax with anyone's hands having free reign on my body without complete and utter trust. So when I have the trust to allow someone to not only see, but to also feel every single flaw my body has - well, wearing shorts or going without at that point just has no bearing on the ethics of the situation for me. In fact, it is because of that same trust I feel, which allows me to put myself under their hands, that I should do no less myself than to be completely honest about any situation which might arise (no pun intended). I hope it is why they trust me in return. At least then the MT is also allowed to make the choice for themselves to decide how they feel about it. The MT's are as human as we are. They are also allowed to be as uncomfortable as we are in that situation, that doesn't mean they are bad, and it doesn't mean anyone who has had an accidental ejaculation during massage is bad either.... But considering you are already in a vulnerable position the moment you get on a table, I just don't see you having anything to lose by being honest. You may find out that your MT already knew and, like with me, will go to great pains to make sure you don't worry about it, and just let it drop. But in the same sense, it will be a show of respect for the MT to at least allow them to have a say. I told my MT that I would completely understand if he wanted me to never come back again. The choice was completely his. And when massage was done and he wanted me to rebook, I even asked again: "Are you completely sure? I definitely want to come back as long as you are willing." I've never had anyone work so hard to put me at ease in such an uncomfortable position. Even my doctors who are WAY more familiar with me don't give me that much comfort.
So you don't consider it sexual?

Not interested in any teaching, only your thoughts in "I-form". Not interested in what I shall do, getting instrucions and so on.

I want to be in dialogue with you.

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#1931 Nov 23, 2012
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Sexual? Absolutely not!
Ok.

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Daffyd wrote:
Isn't that sort of the point of this forum?
I am not sure.

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and... "I-form?" I'm sorry, but my three previous posts are chock full of my thoughts.
Ok.

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Daffyd wrote:
But I'm not interested in being told HOW I have to dialogue on this forum.
Ok, what happens if you are told it, if someone tells you?

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Daffyd wrote:
It feels to me as though you're not as interested in a solution to the problem as you are in listening to everyone else describe theirs?
Ok, can you some examples? I can't see it.

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Daffyd wrote:
Well there are no vivid details coming from me.
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Daffyd wrote:
Everyone knows what this forum is and everyone can read between the lines.
I think it is better to speak as clearly as possible. but of course unnecessary details can be dropped.

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Sorry dude, I'm just not interested in the details, only how to handle the situation.
So am I, so how can we cooperate as good as possible?

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#1934 Nov 24, 2012
Daffyd wrote:
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I'm just really not sure what you're looking for.
How can you find out? What do you need my searching for?

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Daffyd wrote:
Seems to me, looking back through posts, that many solutions are of no interest to you.
Ok.

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Daffyd wrote:
You won't "pull the trigger" yourself before your massage, and you've made it clear you won't just tell your MT what's going on.
Maybe it could be a good idea to tell the MT if I dare..?(Just thinking)

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You seem very set on making it impossible to do anything other than what you are doing - and perhaps that's the point.
What do you achieve when talking so much about me?

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Daffyd wrote:
For me? I'm done. I had an experience during massage, I researched it and found this forum, was relieved to know it happens often and to many, posted my experience, and that's the end of it. I don't really need any support of any kind as I have the support and understanding of an MT who I was honest with. So for me it's done. I don't need to ponder it over and over and worry myself into making it happen again. I'm at ease. Good luck to you.
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#1936 Nov 24, 2012
Daffyd wrote:
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Absolutely nothing, so best of luck to you
What do you need to do if you want to achieve something positive for yourself?
smokeybare

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#1938 Nov 25, 2012
Daffyd wrote:
I never really understand what people get out of hijacking a thread. This was a very good thread for me to find based on my recent experience, and most of the posts from all the way back to 2007 were very helpful. But not so much help is offered after a certain point. It's a shame, because this could still be helpful thread to others. Well I will continue to peek in from time to time to see if there are any new posts, but beyond that it's time to withdraw.
He does get annoying, doesn't he.

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#1939 Nov 25, 2012
Daffyd wrote:
I never really understand what people get out of hijacking a thread.
Who do you think has hijacked this thread? How? Do you manage to be specific?

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Daffyd wrote:
This was a very good thread for me to find based on my recent experience, and most of the posts from all the way back to 2007 were very helpful. But not so much help is offered after a certain point.
Which point? What happened?

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Daffyd wrote:
It's a shame, because this could still be helpful thread to others.
What do you find problematic with the thread now?

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Daffyd wrote:
Well I will continue to peek in from time to time to see if there are any new posts, but beyond that it's time to withdraw.
Why is it time to withdraw?

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#1940 Nov 25, 2012
smokeybare wrote:
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He does get annoying, doesn't he.
Who? Be as specific as you manage with the problem. Thanks

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#1942 Nov 26, 2012
Daffyd wrote:
An interesting point pertaining to the forum. I went back yesterday and got another massage from same therapist. Before I even got on the table I sat and talked about last appointment with him. After being thoroughly convinced that my MT was not uncomfortable, or had not judged me, I got back on table. Massage was best massage of my life, and no surpises this time either. I was more relaxed knowing I didn't have to worry about it. But my MT made a comment during my massage, while we were talking, which I thought should be shared here. He said:- Unfortunately most people just lay there, silent and embarrassed.- Which told me two things: That I was not even the first person this happened to with him, and that if the others lay there silent and embarrassed, he still knew it happened. They always know. No one is hiding anything! Food for thought (But I don't need to have any dialogue about this in a sentence by sentence structure). Peace out everyone :)
Daffyd, sorry if I haven't been friendly enough. Thanks for sharing. I learn a lot. I think this subject is scary, but I want to handle it better.

I am single and in desperate need of physical touch. When that said I am very afraid of the sexual reactions on the body.

This is just a sharing. I don't need any fixing comments. Please keep on sharing about yourself and eventually ask questions.

Thanks

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#1943 Nov 26, 2012
When choosing to not masturbate, it can really be painful sometimes in the privates (It's serious.).
Woodtick

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#1944 Nov 26, 2012
I have had the good fortune of enjoying the services of a male RMT for nearly two decades. His massages are excellent. He was from Hungary and spoke very little English when I first met him - but enough to communicate. He draped me with a towel for the first several months I went to him. However, on the first massage, he touched a glute with one finger and asked if "Okay". Yes. He folded the towel over and recovered me when that side was finished. Repeated performance on the other side. I asked him why he bothered covering me when he saw everything anyway. He replied that in Hungary everyone (male and female) were nude when he massaged me. I said that Next time I came I would try a nude massage.

Sure enough, I did and everything was fine while I was lying on my stomach. When it came time to turn over, I hesitated and he said, "I will get a towel." "No," if they can take being nude in Europe, I can take being nude here in America. Made the turn and the massage proceeded satisafactorily. I did noticed that his fingers grazed my testicles more frequently which I found pleasant. Mind you, his fingers would graze my scrotum on occasion when I was draped too.

As time went on, his hands actually began to work the cleavage between the leg and the genitals quite purposefully. When I commented on this development, he said that he was following his "BP Rule". Upon enquiry as to what that meant, he responded that when he gave massages, the Breasts, Butt and Balls were "in play" if the patron wanted it. However, Pussies and Peckers were off limits. Note the 3 "B,s" and the 2 "P's" in his self made rule. Made me laugh. However through all these years he has never deviated from this self imposed rule of conduct, at least not with me.

Personally, I find the massage of my Butt and Balls to be very relaxing. I guess I am a nudist at heart, for I enjoy being nude, even thougt I am hardly conscience of it until he works on my Butt and Balls. I will become arounsed, but not fully erect. I have never ejaculated. I grateful that he gives a great service.
Smokeybare

Webster, MA

#1945 Nov 26, 2012
Manmanman wrote:
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Who? Be as specific as you manage with the problem. Thanks
WHO? What are you, an owl? WHO WHO.

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#1946 Nov 26, 2012
Smokeybare wrote:
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WHO? What are you, an owl? WHO WHO.
Well, I was the one who asked questions. If you answer mine, I might answer yours.

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